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Old 01-31-2012, 12:04 AM   #1
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Cliff's Insane run???

Hey everybody. I am going to go to the Cliff's Insane Terrain withinin the next 3 weeks. I have to rebuild my front axle first. I am planning for a saturday event. I live 1.5 hours away(HINT, HINT). Anybody interested in getting together for the day drop me a line. Hopefully we can get a few people together for a great time. Be there or be square!

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I'd have to know the date first but I'd be in.

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Old 01-31-2012, 02:19 AM   #3
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Yes I'd be down! I live about 45 min east of there and have never been....
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Old 01-31-2012, 08:03 AM   #4
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Thanks guys. Glad to know there are some real people still left in the world. Like I said. I still have to rebuild my front axle. The last time I was there I really tore my machine up. Hoping this little adventure I have plannned can get me a date with an old friend, but most definitely within the next 3 weeks. I will post here and everywhere that I can to try to get a big crowd. The place is "INSANE"! See you there!
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Old 01-31-2012, 08:12 PM   #6
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i'd be interested depending on the date...
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Old 01-31-2012, 09:08 PM   #7
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Cliff's run! 2-11-21

As of right now, my parts for my front axle are in transit and will be here for me to rebuild this weekend. By the way things are looking, let's plan for the weekend of the 11th of February. It will be a Saturday that I will be going so that everybody can get the week over with and ted to the homelife. I live in NW Indiana, about 30 miles from the state line in Portage. I am wanting to get to there around opening time so I can get my moneys worth! I was there last summer and after 6 hours, it can get boring, but I spent a lot of the day winching and almost rolling my Jeep down a nice gully. It was raining and I got there kind of late after making a wrong turn, so you can immagine how the day went. but the place is intense and I kind of know my way around it a bit, so should turn out to be a kick-ass day. I will keep you guys informed.
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Old 01-31-2012, 09:32 PM   #8
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Excellent. I'll start spreading the word (leaving post its on the jeeps around town lol!). Well I'm glad you will know your way around. Kinda a beginner here in the wheelin world so it'll be good to get out there with some experienced folks!
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Excellent. I'll start spreading the word (leaving post its on the jeeps around town lol!). Well I'm glad you will know your way around. Kinda a beginner here in the wheelin world so it'll be good to get out there with some experienced folks!
You really leave post it's on jeeps? Lol I'll be gone the 11th though
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Haha no. But now I might just to see the reaction I get! What would your response be if you walked out to your Jeep and saw a post it with "cliffs run the 11th" haha I'd get a kick outta it
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Old 02-01-2012, 01:13 AM   #11
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I'm down with that!

POST-ITS. I like it! Looks like they are going to be sponsoring a few cool events this year. Check out their website @ www.thecliffsinsaneterain.com My little bro is going to try to make it too. He has a cherokee. Try not to bash him too bad, he doesn't take it too well ..LOL
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Old 02-01-2012, 01:16 AM   #12
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Hey my new pals!

Just thought I would let you guys in on a little secret too. I heard it through the grapevine that BP AAMCO oil refinery in Whiting, IN is going on strike possibly. Gas is gonna be jumping up about $0.50/gal. Be ready! This means less wheelin for me this summer. I am a medical student and am barely makin it right now because of school.

So back to the Cliff's run. I plan to arrive at 9:00am and will probably roll out of the parking lot soon after, unless I get stuck talking Jeep. Just keep an eye out for my Jeep and I will do the same. Hopefully we can hook up. I am sure there will be lots of other Jeeps around. Last time I was there, there was about 12, myself included and it was a crappy, rainy afternoon.
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iv'e never been to the cliffs and i have a few questions about their rules. first, does my factory roll bar cut it? common sense says yes but i've had a hard time confirming this. second, do i need a winch? third, i have a firestick that i plan to hang my flag from. is the firestick allowed? last, does the flag have to be orange and how tall does it have to be? their rules seem pretty simple but some places can be kind of anal about the small things. i just don't want to show up and then not be allowed in.
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i would like to go, but my seat belts are broke, drives belt is fully extended and pass side belt will not extend. and don't have money for new belts right now. otherwise i would be done to go.
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Old 02-01-2012, 11:38 AM   #15
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Cliff's run! 2-11-21

They do have some rules to abide. A rolebar is required, and factory will be fine, as long as you have one. Yes you will need a flag. It must be safety orange and 2 feet above the highest point on the truck. They used to rent flags for $5, but you must leave them $40 and you get back $35 at the end of the day. They also sell flags for $25 maybey. You don't have to have a winch, but it is recommended for the higher level trails. I sort of know my way around a little. I was planning to take trail #1 first, which runs the perimeter of the park which is 300 acres. Then once we make it back, we can try some of the higher level trails. I have a wich and will help anybody that gets stuck that is in this little party out if I can. (I will not pull anybody out who just continually gets stuck however.)That makes for a long boring day for everybody. They hand you a little map if you ask for it in the office, but it isn't very accurate. It would be best if we all stick together. I know the first time I went, it was very easy to get lost and run in a circle. The place is rather impressive.I must warn those of you who have never been, or very little off raod experience. These trails are intense, tons of possibilities for roll-overs on the higher level trails if you aren't careful. I am sure that if we can all get together, it will be safe and fun if we watch eachothers backs. Everybody have an orange pine tree air freshener on the rearview mirror (if you have one) so we can tell who is who. If not, most of the Jeeps gather into a big crowd anyhow, just ask! I think that covers it. Like I said. I am planning to be there by 9:00am and will be leaving the parking lot by 9:30am. The park closes at 4:00pm and all vehicles must be out of the lot by 4:30pm. See you there.
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A CB is highly recommended for groups anywhere. Nice to have the guy in front of you tell you watch that ledge or the guy behind you tell you your strap is dragging the ground (AGAIN)
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They have many fairly easy trails? It will be about my 3rd time going out(never to cliffs). I try to avoid the more complicated trails due to lack of experience and just the new to not destroy my ride just yet!!
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First of all, thanks for the CB tip. I need to reinstall mine! There are plenty of low level extreme trails and family trails. Trail #1 is the outskirt of the park and is fairly easy with some mud some of the other trails will run you right through the heart of the place and are not too bad either, just don't get into any big holes and check anything filled with water first and you will be fine! WATCH OUT FOR LORI'S HOLLAR!! This is on trail #1 and you will need to find a way around it, or turn around. This is where I almost rolled! I think once you get there and see what the trails are like, you should know your limits.
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Sweet thanks for the tips. I also need to get my hands on a cb. My buddy has one and they are great on the trail (I've gone with him a few times). Well I'm hoping I can get out there. Sounds like its shaping up to be a good one!
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Depending on the weather I may be in, but will be in the RZR not a jeep - lol. As for the Whiting Refinery, that's bullcrap how the gas prices are effected, since most of that gas is sent to Canada. With the weather we've been having it's probably going to be a big mud bog, heck it's muddy there during droughts - lol.
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Cliff's Run 2-11-12

Cool. Found out that BP signed their contract last night at 11pm, so the strike is a no go. Yes, the Cliff's will be pretty muddy. See you there.
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Old 02-02-2012, 04:52 PM   #22
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OK guys. I got all my parts from FedEX today, so I will be starting on my axle first thing in the morning. I hope I have everything that I need. If all goes well, IT IS ON!!!!!
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The little multi channel walkie talkies work well here also.

Unfortunately, I cannot make the 11th.
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Old 02-03-2012, 07:10 PM   #24
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OK Jeepers. Just got my front axle all tore apart and prept for rebuild. YIKES!!!! 5 1/2 hours of headache and crawling around underneath it! At least now I will have all new seals and fresh gear oil in it. It wasn't as bad as I thought. Only the pinion gear seal was leaking, and the gear oil that had came out was sooooo thick, it looked like it had never been changed and had plenty of synthetics added to it! The shit got everywhere in the garage, but I am finished with the worst part and now "IT'S MILLER TIME!!!" Camera ran out of battery life, so I am going to take some photos of parts and the axle and will post them as soon as I can. Can't wait for next weekend!
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Here are a few shots of my axle after I got everything cleaned and ready for rebuild. The old gear oil was as thick as mud and got everywhere!
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OK guys. I finally got my front-end back together after 2 days of turmoil. So far everything is in great shape. I have to go hit some trails tommorrow to make syre that my 4-wheel drive is locking in good. So, if all goes well and the weather is decent, The Cliff's will be a go. I would rather not go on a rainy day, the place gets sloppy nasty when it is raining. So I guess that this weekend is the day to get away. See you then.

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Ok guys, looks like it is gonna be pretty cold this weekend. This means there is gonna be ice and winching is gonna suck. I am probably still gonna go. As far as anybody else showing up, I don't know. Like I said, getting stuck in the bitter cold sucks and ice in the ruts makes things a bit harder. Let me know if those of you that are going would rather do this some other time. If I end up not going this weekend, I am probably going to go to the BADLANDS for "freeze-out day" on the 18th. I may do both if I don't hear any complaints about this Saturday. Like I said, I am good to go!
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Well, so far the weather prediction is looking like it is gonna be pretty cold for the weekend, but it is still too early to tell. If it doesn't break freezing for Saturday, I am probably not going to make the run out. I would hate to have any problems with my Jeep or even get stuck in the freezing cold. When it is cold out, the mud becomes ice and anything left on your Jeep will freeze. To make matters worse, if by chance something did happen and a retrieve needed to be postponed a day, I wouldn't want my Jeep to be froze in the ground overnight. Hopefully the temp climbs up a bit. I know I was pretty pumped about the trip, but when it is cold, things break. No two ways around it. Freezing temps make it harder for you first timeres also. It is a toss up. I will be posting again on Thrusday as to a final decision.
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Hey guys. Won't be able to make it this weekend. I went out again today to recheck my 4x4 linkage and ended up blowing out my 4-wheel drive. Got some land I have permission to be on and was trying to dig up the trails a little by beating on my Jeep a little and I ended up stretching my Transfercase chain that locks down 4-wheel. So I am gonna need to drop the trans again and get this fixed before I can do any playing in the mud again. It looks like it was going to be really cold this weekend anyhow and things always go bad in the cold. We will definitely have to go once the warm weather gets here! I apologize for the inconvienience and will keep you updated.

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So did anyone go? Or everybody have other stuff to do?

I stopped in saturday and only seen a handfull of Heep's.. Didn't look too muddy

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