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Old 04-30-2011, 09:50 PM   #1
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GS with new shoes and lift ;) whats next? help me decide!

Zone 3" + .75 spacer up front and 33" Duratracs
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Old 04-30-2011, 10:27 PM   #2
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Very nice! What's next?... Humm, slap one of those new value line winches from Warn on the front, you were smart to install the spacer so you shouldn't have a sagging front issue. How does it feel, any vibes?

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I had them on previously actually from the PO probably the only thing he ever did right to the poor jeep...

and yea Im savin up for the winch and looking at some rear corners because the PO had body damage there that is starting to rust. I think Im just gona do it myself but not color match the paint and cover it up, not sure yet though.

vibes were bad at first, but then I did the tcase drop and it rides better than before and less vibes too. its less than an inch of drop and not noticable at all. just waiting for that sye and stuff someday
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I had them on previously actually from the PO probably the only thing he ever did right to the poor jeep...

and yea Im savin up for the winch and looking at some rear corners because the PO had body damage there that is starting to rust. I think Im just gona do it myself but not color match the paint and cover it up, not sure yet though.

vibes were bad at first, but then I did the tcase drop and it rides better than before and less vibes too. its less than an inch of drop and not noticable at all. just waiting for that sye and stuff someday
I'm in the same boat with the vibes... The kit, same as yours comes with a 3/4" t-case drop, I installed it at the same time i did the lift, I put the 31s back on it and took it for a test drive when I was done...No vibes, the "driveway alignment" seemed to be dead on. Great. I put on my new 33s and suddenly there is a vibration, only under acceleration. It's really noticeable in 2nd gear. It's not a tire tread or balance issue. I gained more than 3" from the lift, I'm wondering if the t-case drop is not enough, however, I would not want to drop it any more than it already is. I'm gonna take some driveshaft angle measurements tomorrow comparing what I have now to a stock TJ, I'll let you know what I find. I think a SYE is the best way to go, my old TJ has 142k on the ticker, I think the lift is finding it's tired joints and worn components.
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mine has 122k now so im not too far behind! haha. I have noticed some vibes, especially while slowing down, but nothing too crazy. I expected it to be a bit different. of course an SYE is the way to go, but only if the DS, SYE, and CAs are in your budget, haha. if they came after the tires I would not blame it on the drop. did you check the bolts on the skid plate, and the four in the center?
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Oh yea, everythings tight. It's not bad, I can live with it for awhile. I don't notice anything slowing down but then again I don't downshift, I just use the brakes to slow down and stop.
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Looks really good...cant wait for saturday when i get my 3" zone lift on as well!

You should post some more pics...
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I'm in the same boat with the vibes... The kit, same as yours comes with a 3/4" t-case drop, I installed it at the same time i did the lift, I put the 31s back on it and took it for a test drive when I was done...No vibes, the "driveway alignment" seemed to be dead on. Great. I put on my new 33s and suddenly there is a vibration, only under acceleration. It's really noticeable in 2nd gear. It's not a tire tread or balance issue. I gained more than 3" from the lift, I'm wondering if the t-case drop is not enough, however, I would not want to drop it any more than it already is. I'm gonna take some driveshaft angle measurements tomorrow comparing what I have now to a stock TJ, I'll let you know what I find. I think a SYE is the best way to go, my old TJ has 142k on the ticker, I think the lift is finding it's tired joints and worn components.
Phil - from the looks of what was done, did you set the alignment for the 31's or the 33's? It sounds like you set the alignment for the 31's. Going up to a 33 would throw off the geometry just a tad and could cause vibrations. When I put on a 2" BB I thought I had vibrations but it was the front end alignment. I didn't change tire size. Might want to verify the alignment with the 33's - just my humble opinion - and I sure hope it helps and you don't have to do all of the other upgrades right now.
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Looks really good...cant wait for saturday when i get my 3" zone lift on as well!

You should post some more pics...
You're gonna like the way it looks, I guarantee it! Don't forget to soak all the nuts and bolts with penetrating oil, I sprayed mine everyday prior to the install, made it a little easier.
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Phil - from the looks of what was done, did you set the alignment for the 31's or the 33's? It sounds like you set the alignment for the 31's. Going up to a 33 would throw off the geometry just a tad and could cause vibrations. When I put on a 2" BB I thought I had vibrations but it was the front end alignment. I didn't change tire size. Might want to verify the alignment with the 33's - just my humble opinion - and I sure hope it helps and you don't have to do all of the other upgrades right now.
MbRich, Thank you for the input. I did the alignment, toe only, with the 31s on. It's worth checking it again, easy enough to do. I did install cam alignment bolts on the lower front CAs. They are set at a neutral position right now and visually it looks ok. I'll have to do a search for more details on how it's measured and where it's measured from. That would be sweet if a slight tweak to the caster would help. The vibes are tolerable but noticeable and I sure as heck don't have the $ for anymore Jeep parts right now, it's all going into the gas tank! It's not my daily driver but it looks so good, I can't let it sit in the driveway!
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You're gonna like the way it looks, I guarantee it! Don't forget to soak all the nuts and bolts with penetrating oil, I sprayed mine everyday prior to the install, made it a little easier.
Yeah, man...i cant wait...

i'm gonna run a 3" zone lift with 32x11.5x15 Falken Rocky Mountain (wildpeak) ATS's

i like the look of 32's better with a 3" so i'm pumped...its worse than waiting for christmas when i was 8...

I've got the lift sitting in the back of the jeep, get a teaser tomorrow because 1 tire is showing up and the other 4 get here wednesday.

I'm not gonna be the one installing the lift, i met a guy that works at the Jeep dealer here and hes gonna do the lift, alignment, mount and balance of all 5 tires, and an oil change for 200 bucks so figured its worth it.

I still want more pics in this thread, please lol
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Owen-TJ, I'd say $200 is s good deal especially considering the oil change! LOL! Seriously that's not too bad. You have chosen wisely with 32s, I went with 33s on the same lift and if I had my original front fenders this weekend on the trails with the sway bar disconnected, they'd be destroyed. You want pictures, you got it!
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Im out of picture space myself or Id put mine up. took two of my buddys wheeling today cause it rained had some fun and got muddy!

I need to make my discos it will help so much on the trails, and because of my spacer up front and the 33s actually measuring 32 I dont expect any rubbing issues


200 bucks is a great price for that man! nice. I still need to get an alignment, but Im crazy busy. It will be alot better after that Im sure but its already better than it was before haha.

and yes soak bolts before you do the lift. serious. I had alot of issues with stuff breaking and being tight, and I sprayed a week before and a day before and a few other times, and was very careful. the pitman arm, setting the lower CAs after the springs are on, the shock bolts are several tough parts.
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I dont downshift because I have an auto but when I am cruising to a stop, aka not applying the gas, I get a weird feeling. it also likes to buck on the Highway sometimes.
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Owen-TJ, I'd say $200 is s good deal especially considering the oil change! LOL! Seriously that's not too bad. You have chosen wisely with 32s, I went with 33s on the same lift and if I had my original front fenders this weekend on the trails with the sway bar disconnected, they'd be destroyed. You want pictures, you got it!
haha, well...the oil change was on the list since i did my plugs and plug wires (cap/rotor was done recently) so the guy said he'd just do the oil for me as well at the same time!

But yeah, i was happy with only payin 200...

Thanks for reassuring me on the 32's...i really like a "little" extra space between the tire and fender so for me i think a 32 is gonna look great with the 3" zone lift.

The fenders were another reason i went with the 32's...i also have some aftermarket flares (on there when i bought her about 6 months ago) that i think will get beat to hell if i put a 33 on there.

Just counting the days right now haha...gonna be a tease when 1 tire shows up tomorrow and 4 show up wednesday...then install saturday!


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GS...you should upload to photobucket and then post the IMG tag...

i love that color jeep
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I dont downshift because I have an auto but when I am cruising to a stop, aka not applying the gas, I get a weird feeling. it also likes to buck on the Highway sometimes.
Oh, I assumed yours was manual. That does sound strange, perhaps not yet being aligned has something to do with it, atleast I hope so, thats easy to fix! Mine was toed in an inch afterwards and the tie rod would not budge even with a pipe wrench until the PB Blaster soaked into the threads, then I could turn it by hand.
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Just counting the days right now haha...gonna be a tease when 1 tire shows up tomorrow and 4 show up wednesday...then install saturday!
I know what you mean, I had to wait a month after the lift was done before my wheels and tires came in...it's a long story but I have them now and I'm happy.
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Looks great! Nice tires too. Whats next?....Ha I keep asking myself that same question.
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I had a gold TJ & always wanted to put poison spider bars front & rear, they would look great on yours & they are very well priced
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Looks great! Nice tires too. Whats next?....Ha I keep asking myself that same question.

thanks man! haha yea I dont know, i am thinking bumpers. the ones I have on I made from my old stocks cause I sold the tube bumpers I had one. I like the ones I made I just want a little more beef.
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Oh, I assumed yours was manual. That does sound strange, perhaps not yet being aligned has something to do with it, atleast I hope so, thats easy to fix! Mine was toed in an inch afterwards and the tie rod would not budge even with a pipe wrench until the PB Blaster soaked into the threads, then I could turn it by hand.
Yep I am thinking aligntment on the front, I am gona get everything done friday at a shop, I just dont have time to mess with it and need it done right haha. I got lucky to have time to do my lift. I put my lift on myself in two days, and then had to wait a week for tires. and now a week for alignment.

like I said my 33 duratracs are actually 32 inches when on the jeep, and I think everything looks in good proportion, esp with my spacer and everything. I think 32 is a good choice for you owen. do you know your gear ratio?
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I had a gold TJ & always wanted to put poison spider bars front & rear, they would look great on yours & they are very well priced
Thanks, and yea I love the color too ^

I will take a look at the bars, and see what I can do. Im in the market I guess. haha. also saving up for sye cas and DS down the road, a regear, and a winch eventually. but for now I am happy. I am looking at gettin some body work done to fix some surface rust on my back rear corner, and maybe some new fenders because mine are cracking all over ;(
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Yes you do! Ha! I felt kinda bad for posting pics of mine in your thread, I'm glad you got some of your own, it looks really good! Just watch your clearance in the front when disconnected, I'd hate for you to eat up a fender, you'll be amazed at how far the front wheel will travel upwards!!
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Yea I know, its so stiff and has alot less travel with the sway bars connected. haha I will be sure to watch it, but to be honest if I do happen to chew them up its just an excuse for me to get new ones like I have been thinking of. mine are already chipped and scraped and cracking, so they are coming somewhere down the road. I dont know how far the travel will be. I think I should be safe esp. with the spacers up front. but ill keep an eye on it

And dont worry about postin pics, I like to see em too. go crazy!
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And I still havent gotten and trail pics only been out once in the past week. so you covered that for me

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