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Old 06-14-2011, 09:46 PM   #421
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carefull, ive hear its not a good idea with spacers if youve already got a tall lift, seen a lot of spacers on 2.5" lifts and 3" lifts but not on a 6" lift..and nothing is wrong with a small 1.25" bl, youll need one for a tummy tuck and high clearance skids anyways

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x2^

and what tires are you running with a 6in that are still rubbing lol? :P

2 inches of suspension will only net you about half that in usable height. thats why from 31s-33s (1 inch of tires above axle) requires 3-4 inches. for 35s they suggest around 6, but at lest 5 with a BL. a small BL is not bad at all.

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and what tires are you running with a 6in that are still rubbing lol? :P

2 inches of suspension will only net you about half that in usable height. thats why from 31s-33s (1 inch of tires above axle) requires 3-4 inches. for 35s they suggest around 6, but at lest 5 with a BL. a small BL is not bad at all.
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and what tires are you running with a 6in that are still rubbing lol? .
Problem ain't the 35's, my wheels stick out far enuff that when I flex it puts the tires into the flares.

Already broke one flare
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get flattys like indy has, but in the rear also. or add a BL.

I know Indy, I was just saying thats the basic guidlines. there are so many different things you can do, thats what makes wranglers so great.
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Does this count? Mines the one on top.

Or here's one from a couple years ago right after I stretched it. Fairly happy with the flex at that time.
Can we get a video of how you got up there?lol
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get flattys like indy has, but in the rear also. or add a BL.

I know Indy, I was just saying thats the basic guidlines. there are so many different things you can do, thats what makes wranglers so great.
I gotcha! I was just saying, theres always an alternative. Always

The flat fenders do help, I never get into my fenders or flares but I will once I go to 33's and with better JJ arms.
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Yea man, there are tons. I plan on going the flatty route with 35s by the end of next year. just gota save up the money. and super the front, do sye cv all new rokmen control arms and finish the TT, plus new wheels. bye bye money haha.

you jeep looks great and I love your set up man. I have only got into my flare once with my 33s, but I have 3.75 inches up front. so when I said 4 was suggest, thats why I still get my control arms. it sucks because if I go out more I will hit fender and flare more, but where I am at I hit CAs sometimes. I'm adjusting my steering stops today so that should make it perfect, along with a BL/MML in two weeks for my fenders.

when are you going to 33s and what are you gona do after that so you dont hit? add a BL?
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Yea man, there are tons. I plan on going the flatty route with 35s by the end of next year. just gota save up the money. and super the front, do sye cv all new rokmen control arms and finish the TT, plus new wheels. bye bye money haha.

you jeep looks great and I love your set up man. I have only got into my flare once with my 33s, but I have 3.75 inches up front. so when I said 4 was suggest, thats why I still get my control arms. it sucks because if I go out more I will hit fender and flare more, but where I am at I hit CAs sometimes. I'm adjusting my steering stops today so that should make it perfect, along with a BL/MML in two weeks for my fenders.

when are you going to 33s and what are you gona do after that so you dont hit? add a BL?
Um, I'd like to make that happen by this winter but realisticly it will most likely be spring next year and It will actually be to 35's. I'm just going to stick with my coils and trackbars set-up, put bilstein shocks on with an outboard, then run hi-lines, and trim up my rear that are already trimmed also going to run a .5" body lift from Rokmen and run their TT. Then run my D30 with Superior Axle 27 splines and a Ford 8.8 with stock axles and lockers front and rear. 4.56 gears, or 4.88. Lol. Money went fast right there! And Thanks, your rig is really nice as well two different styles of build!
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haha sounds like a good plan. I would love to do the hilines, but there is no going back after that :P haha. its sooo sexy tho. I cant wait to see how your rig turns out. Im on a highschoolers part time budget right now, so I just got my jeep trail capable as quick as possible. I think we would all do things differently if we had the money. but anyways sounds like a good setup for you !

thought Id add this: I definitely need the BL and the flattys up front. even with 3 inch zone which added slightly more, 3/4 spacer, and my tires are smaller than true 33s, I still stuff em up front.

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get flattys like indy has, but in the rear also. or add a BL.
At some point I'm goin tube fenders, but I'm gonna build my own And when your setting up for rock crawling a BL shouldn't be on your list. At those angles you deffently don't want the xtra body roll.
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What exactly does it mean when you're maxed out? You're tiring is touching your fender flare? Or something like that? Lastly, what exactly do bump stops do?Thanks a lot guys
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Max means the maximum you can safely flex before you run the risk of braking something(axel drop). And bump stops keep you axle from going to high.. ie like putting your tire in you fender, bending / brackets or components above your axles... gas tank, oil pan .....etc, etc
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At some point I'm goin tube fenders, but I'm gonna build my own And when your setting up for rock crawling a BL shouldn't be on your list. At those angles you deffently don't want the xtra body roll.
A BL is probably the single cheapest item you can put on your rig that can down the road net you the best items on your Jeep. BL is always a good thing as long as you keep it at 1.25" at most.
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Check some of the other forums, BL's area not a good idea. Been doing this crap a long time. That was one of the first things I learned.
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Check some of the other forums, BL's area not a good idea. Been doing this crap a long time. That was one of the first things I learned.
What about for a tummy tuck? What's the issue with a 1-1.25" body lift? I'm not just saying that because I have one I genuinely curious.
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If its required in order to get something else done, then its up to you to make that call. If you do a BL, you want the smallest about possible... but that don't make them a good idea, especially when you talking getting in to extream angles.
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Check some of the other forums, BL's area not a good idea. Been doing this crap a long time. That was one of the first things I learned.
Actually, Mr. "I'm a Die hard, I know what I'm doing". A BL is something that the majority of Jeepers want. For two reasons, 1 for a TT. Is your transfer case skid plate still hanging low? and 2 it allows you to do a MML which helps drive line angles, and pulls the oil pan up, and the transmission pan.

With a 1.25-.5" BL you can raise the center of your Jeeps "heart and soul" 2" and allow them to be out of the way by only raising the body 1.25"

If you are worried about 1.25" making your rig unstable then you need to lower your lift or change something else up.
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Actually, Mr. "I'm a Die hard, I know what I'm doing". A BL is something that the majority of Jeepers want. For two reasons, 1 for a TT. Is your transfer case skid plate still hanging low? and 2 it allows you to do a MML which helps drive line angles, and pulls the oil pan up, and the transmission pan.

With a 1.25-.5" BL you can raise the center of your Jeeps "heart and soul" 2" and allow them to be out of the way by only raising the body 1.25"

If you are worried about 1.25" making your rig unstable then you need to lower your lift or change something else up.
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I saw a Jeep the other day that had AEV Highline fenders, TT, 33x12.50x15, on stock suspension. It is probably one of the cleanest looking Jeeps I have ever seen.
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I wouldn't call you the majority, considering its been a couple hours and you are the only one arguing. Can already tell your Smarts by your need to to insult just to make your comment look stronger or justified.
Under certain circumstances a BL may be required depending on what your doing. Its up to your to decide if the pros out weigh the cons. All lifts will raise your center of gravity but none as bad as a body lift.

If you like body roll then lift away, but if I can get threw the same stuff with out the BL, why take the risk. Set your self up right and let the suspension do the work for you.

Anyway ya look at it body lifts are not a good way to go.
If you must then so be it. You don't have to agree but ya can do so without the insults. It really don't help ya none.

Not once did I say don't get one, so don't take it so personally
You'll get a lot further that way... may even get a little credit
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I wouldn't call you the majority, considering its been a couple hours and you are the only one arguing. Can already tell your Smarts by your need to to insult just to make your comment look stronger or justified.
Under certain circumstances a BL may be required depending on what your doing. Its up to your to decide if the pros out weigh the cons. All lifts will raise your center of gravity but none as bad as a body lift.

If you like body roll then lift away, but if I can get threw the same stuff with out the BL, why take the risk. Set your self up right and let the suspension do the work for you.

Anyway ya look at it body lifts are not a good way to go.
If you must then so be it. You don't have to agree but ya can do so without the insults. It really don't help ya none.

Not once did I say don't get one, so don't take it so personally
You'll get a lot further that way... may even get a little credit
You may not have made it personal but by saying they are bad, they aren't the way to go and to "set your self up right" you are trashing BL.

A 5.5" suspension lift like yours is why your rig has high COG. A .5 BL isn't going to affect your cog nearly at all. I'm only supporting BL's as a GREAT way to gain a tad of clearance and to tuck your transfer case skid, gas tank skid, oil pan and tranny pan all at once. For what they can do, the Pro's far outweigh the cons of lifting your body 1". Look at most of the rigs on here, and just because I'm the only one arguing my point doesn't mean there isn't a majority of Jeepers running or looking to run a BL.

Remember we aren't talking 2-3" we are talking about 1" at the most. With my set-up with BL I will have a lower COG then you, so really it doesn't matter to me one bit, just making sure people don't get pushed away from the idea of a small BL to benefit them substantially.
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It a 6 not a 5.5 and with a skyjacker yes there's a difference. I just said there not a good idea, however I also said the lower the better if your gonna do it. Never actually said it was bad... so I pretty much covered that.. your cog may be lower but my suspension is set up to do the work for me, so where your gonna get xtra body roll due to your BL, ill still be fairly straight.
Which "could" still put you at higher roll over risk then my xtra couple inches does to me.
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IMHO this is not really a thread for discussion.

Anyway, a little garden flex.

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IMHO this is not really a thread for discussion.

Anyway, a little garden flex.

Get outta here scrub!

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Anytime I was flexed no pics were taken lol!
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A little flex at the badlands.
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A little flex at the badlands.
Looks much better discoed!

And yamjam, I know what you mean.. I was in front the whole time, no one could see but my rear bumper! lol.
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Just a test shot. Need a good one on the trails.
This was before replacing all my arms with Rusty's Offroad Arms.
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