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Old 12-21-2011, 09:33 AM   #31
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Is PCS still using those incredibly soft allen head bolts? After all the money you pay, I'd like to see better hardware.
It's not so much "incredibly soft bolts" but stainless steel to prevent rust from weather/mud/water/age ect. Yes stainless is softer then T-36 steel but at the same time it's used for the long lasting look.

Don't get me wrong, like I said I striped a bolt head, I'm sure there will be upgraded hardware. The DeFenders just rolled onto the market, they wanted to see some write ups on install to see what they could make better for the consumer.

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Old 12-21-2011, 07:52 PM   #32
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I just installed a bunch of tube/slider/armor stuff on a Jeep. We went through a few of those bolts. That was my biggest complaint with their products.

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Old 12-22-2011, 12:02 AM   #33
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I just installed a bunch of tube/slider/armor stuff on a Jeep. We went through a few of those bolts. That was my biggest complaint with their products.
Well truthfully with the right tools you shouldn't have. Problem with the hardware. With stainless and lock nuts you don't have to bring out the Kraken haha. Can't say I have any complaints with the products or instals tho
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Old 12-22-2011, 12:19 AM   #34
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man i want those fenders! Im jealous. very nice looking rig btw!
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Old 12-23-2011, 01:39 PM   #35
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man i want those fenders! Im jealous. very nice looking rig btw!
Thanks! PSC just hade there Christmas giveaway last night some people won some awesome stuff! The slick look of the DeFenders everyone loves, even jko!! Haha
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Old 12-23-2011, 03:03 PM   #36
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i would love to have a set. tell them if they have any extras im be more than willing to pt them on my jeep !
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Old 01-05-2012, 02:24 PM   #37
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Just got in my new lift from Jeremy at Rock Krawler and Pure Performance. GREAT Customer service. The Guys there are awesome. 5.5 X Factor Long Arm Suspension lift!

Now time for the hard part.. School just started (BOOOO) and I want this on now! Might have to do in stages? Skid pan and lowers 1st then the new axles with all gussets so I can measure, tac, final weld, powder coat, then INSTALL!



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Old 01-14-2012, 10:04 PM   #38
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So I have 2 days off in a row and decided to start on the Rock Krawler Suspension (5.5 Long Arm). I'm doing it "bolt on style" rather then welding it. I figure who knows what new toys this TJ might get and wending and plasma cutting aren't in my future.. least for the cross skid pan ha!

Started with the upper and lower mount brackets which are also the skid pan brackets. 3 pieces, about 175lb all together. Definitely bringing the High center of gravity down when its all complete.

While taking everything apart I ran into some issues.. Leaking T-case and tranny seals, wasted trans mount, and spun pocket nuts from OE cross pan bolts. Could be worse right?

















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Old 01-16-2012, 10:56 PM   #39
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I guess I'm gonna call this STAGE 2 on the EC PSC TJ.. Suspension and Drive train :cheers2:

After all the seals and little mishaps were done popping up I brought out the torches to start the dismount of the lower arms to make way for the new Long Arm System fro Rock Krawler. I know these are the same stock axles I'm adding the Long Arms to but id rather do it in stages then 1 massive project when I get the new axles in a few weeks. Just rather not get overwhelmed with school work and the TJ..

Also a few snap shots of the skid plate and trackbar mounted.. I need to craw on something to get a better shot but you can see what a difference the Rock Krawler Skid does compared to OE.

after reviewing all these pictures.. do I repaint the whole frame? I kinda want to.. idk











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Old 01-18-2012, 09:40 PM   #40
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woo hoo for over 2000 views! Thanks for checking it out you guys! Leave comments or suggestions I'm all ears.

Well the Lift turned into a success! the 5.5 X Factor Long Arm Suspension from Rock Krawler looks great skying the 37's but not so sure how its gonna react to the 42's next month when i do the axle swap. everything went together like butter!

Every single old control arm I took off the bushings were completely SHOT! When I took off the front uppers both pressed in bushing fell out when the arm was removed, haha. I deff got my money out of that Procomp SA but nothing compared to the LA Kit now installed. each arm is an approx 40-50lb. vs. a 6lb SA.. Rock Krawler is awesome product. Had a lil rough time aligning the lower arms in the front but other then that it was a breeze. Would definitely help a friend on install if they got one. GO GET ONE!

The ride is a complete 180 difference then the SA. Smooth, less vertical forces on the Jeep means I don't feel every bump in the road. It rides like a cadi. I couldn't believe the difference. Also running Rancho 9000XL adjustable shocks (If wondering) and I couldn't be happier with the set up.

Looking to go AntiRock on the front and rear swaybars tho. Its a tremendous difference, a lil more body roll, but makes up in performance.

The TJ needs a bath but not that dirty. Also had to say goodbye to my hood Spyder









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Old 01-23-2012, 10:21 PM   #41
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So I put in my order for all new front axle truss and bracketry work for the new axles. T & T Customs were great at working with me on exactly what i needed. I definitely recommend them if your looking for axle parts, trusses or brackets!
T&T Customs axle trusses,gears,lockers,axle shafts

Took the Jeep out for a midnight run to test out the Long Arm. It worked GREAT. SMOOTH ride!




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Old 01-25-2012, 11:37 PM   #42
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sweeeeet ;]
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Old 01-31-2012, 12:39 AM   #43
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Got the order in from T&T Customs a few days ago. the front HP44 Truss looks sweet! built in Rock Krawler driver upper mount housing for it. best thing about it is the option to push the axle forward with ease of moving the spring buckets back up to 2.5"!! may have to do this for the 42" fitment! haha. also picked up the tires and rims with axles today. all and all my roommate was right.. Its like Christmas ever 2 weeks here. The UPS guy knows me by name ha

gotta clean up axles, torch off everything and the mounts for new trusses front and rear. also rerunning brake lines and changing dif covers. ha i don't do chrome...

For Specs Axles have 4.88 Motive Gears and Posi front and rear. Rear is about to get a Detroit tho.. don't like posi in rear ends.. i dunno why.
42" Goodyear MT Kevlars on 17X10 Eagle Aluminum rims. got a lot of work ahead for this month. possible cage coming and Rigid lighting????? no idea




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Old 01-31-2012, 11:01 PM   #44
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So my garage is a complete mess! I hate working in a mess cause I trip over EVERYTHING! Hacked off axle brackets to ready the new truss for the front. I have to decide how far forward I want to move the front axle. Emailed Jeremy at Rock Krawler about the limits of the 5.5 Long Arm. I'm hoping for at least 1" to an 1.25" may not seem like much... but makes ALL the difference with the short wheel base. Also need to decide on a Steering stabilizer bracket to mount on the truss from T&T Customs. haven't quite figured that one out. I have 1 month to get axles under it, exhaust re ran, drive shafts, steering, and brakes. along with the 523466 other little things ha.

Don't let people tell you an axle swap is cake work. Getting all your angles correct, tac welding, removal to fully weld then to powder coat housing. I hope its ready for March Madness at 4WheelParts Orlando FL. thes the only thing that's killing me is I know I have a time limit. School is kicking my butt right now and work sucks. Engineering and Math major's I don't wish upon anyone.

blah blah just rambling..



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Old 02-01-2012, 08:41 PM   #45
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Turning into a monster in no time, love this build.
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Old 02-01-2012, 08:47 PM   #46
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Are you going to jeep beach? Nice jeep btw wish I had the money todo this to my jeep..
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Old 02-01-2012, 09:51 PM   #47
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are you puttin lower gears in those axles?..a buddy of mine is runnin 4.88s on his 38s and its sluggish...42s? damn those are big tires lol
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Old 02-02-2012, 02:16 AM   #48
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I'm just hoping that it doesn't turn into a huge monster haha thanks

Yeah, Jeep Beach is only an hour to two hr drive from where I'm at. Staying at my brothers that weekend, you gonna make it out? Ive actually been impressed with prices that's I have been dealt. For axles, tires, and the rims, 1200ish. Its all about finding good buys!

Yeah axles have 4.88's in them now, Detroits front and rear. Running 4.56 with the 37's and it is wicked fast! I say fast.. But well.. You know what I mean. I'm not running the 42's as the DD, just to play with for a week or two before 4WheelParts March Madness March 10th. Sticking with 37's tho, I feel a comfortable tire.

Started the removal of the front axle today and this evening. Glad I have an awesome assortment of jacks and cinder blocks. My appt complex is just gonna love me... Old bump stops are SHOT. ha Half was already rotted away. Out goes the rest of the Procomp lift and in the the Rock Krawler springs and pads. T&T Customs did a killer job on the truss for this 44, just have to decide where I want my stabilizer for the steering. Haven't decided yet. Also need to get a drag link for the pitman arm to the pass tire.

The 44 looks so pretty under the TJ even not painted or welded it just looks like it belongs.

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Old 02-02-2012, 07:26 PM   #49
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ahhh gotcha ;] well 42s are deff "awesome to play with for a week" hahaha
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Old 02-02-2012, 07:39 PM   #50
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Caution:
Before you weld that truss on, there is a very good chance you'll warp the axle housing/tubes. That's a LOT of welding. So, if you are not an expert, you should take that whole housing to a good axle builder, and have them burn it on for you.

Tires look nice. Have you ran a tape measure on them?
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Old 02-02-2012, 08:32 PM   #51
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TC1 ur just the person i was looking for. I haven't welded the trus together just yet, you can see all the straps holding it in place for fitment. Took my time torching off all the old brackets that were on it just for the fact that I didn't want to warp the tube. My welder isn't strong enough to weld complete so I'm tacking and sending to my powder coat company to weld and paint. I'm thinking 1.5" welds on each side every 10-20 min for the truss?

Also, what degree of caster are you running, stock is 7.. I'm looking into 5 degree, just wanted another opinion preferably yours on that before I make a final decision and crank on it. Thanks again on your input! It is definitely appreciated on the East side!


So I lied.. This morning I woke up super early to get the front somewhat in position. Shocks on, trackbar in place, upper arm adjusted correctly, and wala! 42" tires clear in the front!




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Old 02-02-2012, 08:40 PM   #52
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I don't remember my caster specs.

I'd reconsider sending it a powdercoater for welding, instead look for an experienced axle builder. New pics look nice. Is the jeep at ride height?
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I'm pretty set on the 5 degree, read a lot about it and got good feedback on it. Yeah its at ride height in thos pics. I think my 37 Toyos weigh more then the 42" Kevlars.. lol Got a lot of measuring ahead of me this weekend!
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Old 02-07-2012, 09:23 PM   #54
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God school sucks! Tests come at the worse time, so does work. I'm startin to stress out about this build with everything colliding together on me. Appt complex is NOT happy with the current state of the build


Got the notice on the door today, so I put the old axle under it but still on jacks. Front end should be here tomorrow from River City Powder Coat. But Structures test thurs, and Thermo quiz Fri, also work all weekend. Test in Vector Analysis Wend. I'm kinda in tweak mode! Remember I have till march 10th to have this thing 100% mobile, I gotta get it together!

Now that I'm done venting... Figured sense I'm taking rotors off to get axle done I'll replace seals bearings and use my rotor machine that has been collecting dust. also to be "cost efficient" I'm (FOR NOW) going with a 'bastard joint' for my drive shafts. Just to cut cost right now and put it into something I can't simple fix. Using all National seals and bearings.. I figure sense its already all apart, I might as well put new in it now, not 75mph on the highway haha





On final tacking on the truss I went with a 7-8 degree caster, stock is 7. wanted to go 5 and was pretty set on it, but wanted a window of error in case my gage is off or not on level ground surface. I'm happy with my decision tho.
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Got the front end modded in, everything lined up just as I expected! ha would post a picture of it but since the appt complex came down on me, I had to move my operation into the garage, space is tight! Went with a 18 degree pinion angle for the 8.8. With this angle the only drive shaft angle is at the double cardon on the SYE at the T-case.



Going with the triangulated 4 link rear im doing away with a rear sway bar as well as a track bar. In doing this tho i had to remove exhaust to make the upper arms work. Exhaust also hits front drive shaft.. this needs to be addressed with a few other minute things.


Rear end is at the powder coater and should have back in the next few days.. test Wednesday and hopefully this weekend it will be back on the road for a madin voyage! well without exhaust lol. but driving!
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In the process of touching up a few loose ends while the rear ends is getting powder coated Cleaning up the undercarriage and painting the belly to black it out. Wourth SKS Undercoating. Trying to get some measurements on my new exhaust setup. Going with a smaller cat and muffler. I'm thinking Magnaflow or Banks for exhaust.. Haven't decided yet. Also setting up some steering angles and numbers for cromo steering. Going OTK with it!

Failed my Vector Analysis test today.. but hey! The Jeeps moving along nice! LOL!




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Looking at what i have to do for my exhaust system revamp. with the HP44 the front drive shaft hits the exhaust coming off the manifold that runs down the oil pan. also the cat is squeezes in between the frame mount and the transmission. with the triangulated 4 link like I said, its gotta get reran.



on another note I am doing some upgrades on the drives hafts to convert them to the flange style yoke and D44 front yoke


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Keep at it. All these little annoyances are solve-able, and you'll be happy with the end result. Nice job. (I, too, had all these hickups)
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Thanks TC. Its all the little things that take the longest! Definitely glad this is almost done, I just want to drive it.. Wednesday is my day I expect it on the road! Keep an eye out, thanks for all the advice too. still got some hills to climb while its in the garage but were getting there
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Woohoo! Exhaust came in yesterday morning at work. Magnaflow is what I'm gonna cling onto this time around. Nothing against Banks, but I gotta see what all the talk is about on the Magnaflow set up on the TJ. Had to work all weekend so I haven't even picked up the rear end from RCPC. Been crazy busy, 7000$ days 4 days in a row! (If your in sales you can appreciate)

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