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Old 05-26-2011, 11:57 PM   #31
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Not wise to wheel in streams. But the biggest problem I see, is that ugly mall crawlin hummer.

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Old 05-27-2011, 08:40 AM   #32
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Is it just me or was the Hummer Blingin'? I see people take 4x4 trucks and put $1k rims and all sort of after-market crap that renders them "useless" off-road cause they might scratch/dent/break them...so I give this guy props to take his out of the parking lot and onto a trail.

That being said, still a shit vehicle.

As for the debate of what's wrong with this picture...the numbers is all...the rest is here-say. This is a trail (very end of the video follows the last Jeep up a bank that is clearly a path made by more then the 17 vehicles going before it), there is a defined raised area in the middle of the brook that twists and turns right up to the bank (as seen in the video). The last bit of tire spin wasn't done for show (guy would have yelled or something if he was...watch any tire spinning vid and you'd know), so what prob just trying to get traction after his stop. No one in the vid was acting like idiots (except the Hummer, but we all expected that). So in the end this video is just some friends having good clean fun, not trailblazing, or ruining the environment.

Problem is Eco-Nerds will always turn something like this into propaganda. Does anyone here know the % of greenhouse gases that are caused by cars in the U.S.? Give you a hint, less then 20. Does that stop legislation from being drawn up to crackdown on car emissions? Not at all. Tree-huggers care less about the facts and more about what makes them feel good. I'm all about preserving the natural beauty but that factory that built your Prius causes more pollution everyday then every car in my family does in a year!

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Old 12-21-2011, 02:01 PM   #33
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Good To go...No issues with that.
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Old 01-05-2012, 11:17 PM   #34
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Think of it this way...how much did an adult T-Rex weigh? Several times what a Jeep weighs, and T-Rexes used the streams all the time. Now I can see a complaint in the form of oil possibly washing into the stream as the Jeeps go through...but then oil in the stream...oil comes from dinosaurs...T-Rexes used the streams...oil from the T-Rex washed off into the stream, we are still here. People need to get some perspective.
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Old 01-06-2012, 12:15 PM   #35
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The only possible thing is where that last Jeep Wrangler stopped and then accelerated hard. But nothing really wrong. I hike/backpack and I have a Jeep. There has to be a balance in this world. Sure, you can't destroy everything, but you should be able to use it. Many naturalists (read: tree huggers) will always fuss about others destroying nature. I imagine that's how the Indians felt as they watched the wagon trains move across the west and leave ruts.
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Tread Lightly policies would suggest that you NOT drive down a river bed, just like they tell us not to drive through meadows. BUT, it depends on the location. There's at least a couple of official trails here in Colorado that cross rivers where you need to go downstream a bit. (one cool trail makes you drive down the creek for about a 100 yards. It confused me the first time, thinking I had missed the trail on the other side).

There are a few trails in Northern Idaho where the rivers are so dead from mining that the Jeep clubs use them legally.
These guys hit it.

ASSUMING that this is a legal trail, which may include the short stint up the streambed (which looks fairly rocky, making for a fairly sustainable surface), I don't see much wrong with it. Most of the travel was at a controlled speed, not much wheelspin, and no major splashing. Maybe a little more spacing out, but other than that... I don't see much.


As far as public perception... There will always be things taken out of context. If its questionable, it may not be a wise thing to post on a public forum without a clear explanation, but even then, the details may get lost as things get spread.
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Oh, and hey Geoff...!

(this is Justin, formerly of STT fame )
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Old 01-06-2012, 12:26 PM   #37
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I can tell you why they love this type of video:
  • The silt and sediment that the wheels stir up will hurt the fishies and other animals that depend on the stream.
  • The tires stirring up the streambed will cause erosion and deepen the stream.
  • The water washing agaist the stream banks causes bank erosion and would widen the stream.
A good storm would do the same thing.

I see no problem.
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Old 01-25-2012, 11:49 AM   #38
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Keep it Clean!!!

I think it was just beautiful. So many Jeeps, minus the Hummer and a Cherokee or two. but I have to agree with the others. Please don't hurt the little fishes!

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