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Old 06-13-2011, 03:25 PM   #1
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Talking Why Tread Lightly!...?

Treading Lightly is one of the best practices that we as public land users can do to make sure that we can not only continue to use our public lands in a variety of recreational manners, but also make sure that the natural resources and experiences remain intact for future generations. Its not about restriction, but rather about responsibility for our public lands and to ourselves, our friends and families, other visitors, and future generations.

So what does it mean to "Tread Lightly"? Well, we've developed our 5 Principles to break it down to basics:

Tread Lightly! Principles

Travel Responsibly on land by staying on designated roads, trails and areas. Go over, not around, obstacles to avoid widening the trails. Cross streams only at designated crossings. When possible avoid wet, muddy trails. On water, stay on designated waterways and launch your watercraft in designated areas.

Respect the Rights of Others including private property owners, all recreational trail users, campers and others so they can enjoy their recreational activities undisturbed. Leave gates as you found them. Yield right of way to those passing you or going uphill. On water, respect anglers, swimmers, skiers, boaters, divers and those on or near shore.

Educate Yourself prior to your trip by obtaining travel maps and regulations from public agencies. Plan for your trip, take recreation skills classes and know how to operate your equipment safely.

Avoid Sensitive Areas on land such as meadows, lakeshores, wetlands and streams. Stay on designated routes. This protects wildlife habitats and sensitive soils from damage. Donít disturb historical, archeological or paleontological sites. On water, avoid operating your watercraft in shallow waters or near shorelines at high speeds.

Do Your Part by modeling appropriate behavior, leaving the area better than you found it, properly disposing of waste, minimizing the use of fire, avoiding the spread of invasive species and repairing degraded areas.


We gain a lot by Treading Lightly as a community. Please help us by promoting the Tread Lightly! ethics whenever you can.

For more information: Tread Lightly - Home

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Thanks for the support!! And please, feel free to ask here if you have any questions or desire for clarification, at all.

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Nice to see you guys have a presence here. It's important to let people know that their actions off-road affect us all, and the places we can really enjoy our Jeeps and use them for what they were designed for are getting fewer and fewer.
I joined Tread Lightly last year for the Jeep discount, but I plan on being a life-long member.

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I've been treading lightly for a few years now with hiking and back packing that I've been doing. However I just became an "official" member to get my Goodyear rebate and support you guys
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Awesome! Yeah, our membership programs have a few nice perks... in addition to helping us continue our efforts to promote responsible use so that you and the generations after you can use those Jeep/Dodge/Chrysler and Goodyear products in the future, in the manner for which they were intended.

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And even though it's mid-week...


Tip of the week:

Again, as part of both the "Educate Yourself" and "Do Your Part" principles, this week I am encouraging everyone to take a small amount of time out of your evening and complete our Online Awareness Course.

This online activity covers the basics of the Tread Lightly! principles and is a wonderful way to quiz your knowledge of what responsible recreation means to us as a community.

Enjoy: Tread Lightly - Online Awareness Course

Also, everyone who completes the course is entered into a drawing for a free hat, courtesy of Cabelas.
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Might do it later, but I don't have the free time right now for 45 minutes.
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Good afternoon everyone!!

Tip of the week:

With the 4th of July holiday weekend rapidly approaching, we hope that you and your friends and families are making plans to head outdoors to enjoy some responsible fun and celebration. Since we figure (and hope) that many of you will be camping, we wanted to toss out a few reminders about campsite ethics.

- Look for previously-used campsites, and camp on durable surfaces.
- Campsites should be at least 200ft from water sources, other campsites, and trails. Pay attention to local regulations (MVUMs, etc) concerning how far your vehicle can be off the trail for camping.
- Keep a clean camp. Place food and other products with odors in animal-proof containers or back in vehicles.
- Follow the pack it in, pack it out guidelines. Police your camp before you leave to leave it in better condition than you found it.
- Campfires are not for waste disposal. Please do not leave trash in campfire rings, especially glass.

All that said, lets all cross our fingers for beautiful weather and get back to planning that perfect trip!

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Might do it later, but I don't have the free time right now for 45 minutes.


Makes for a fun "rainy day" activity.
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I was going to use the tread lightly code today to buy a new JEEP unlimited. Come to find out that i need to wait 30 days to redeem it.?

Anyone have one they arent using i could trade you mine for in a month..

A little disapointed i guess.. You have us as a member from the date of membership but require 30 days to submit a code?
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I live in Texas and have a backyard that is three acres. When it rains I Tread Heavy.
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I was going to use the tread lightly code today to buy a new JEEP unlimited. Come to find out that i need to wait 30 days to redeem it.?

Anyone have one they arent using i could trade you mine for in a month..

A little disapointed i guess.. You have us as a member from the date of membership but require 30 days to submit a code?
This is not a Tread Lightly! requirement. The Chrysler Affiliate Rewards Program states that you have to belong to whatever organization is linked to the discount for 30 days, however, we've heard many dealerships are not making people wait the 30 days. You will want to talk to the dealership you're wanting to purchase the vehicle through to see if they are willing to let you use the control number prior to the 30 days.

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Ah... private lands. While there is a big difference between public lands and private lands, it does come down to the land owner's desires for what they feel is appropriate on their property. That said, we still promote use that is not damaging to the natural environment, even on private lands.

For those who might be accessing private lands... Remember, its vital to make sure you have permission before going on private lands for any reason, be it wheeling, hunting, fishing, riding, etc.
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This is not a Tread Lightly! requirement. The Chrysler Affiliate Rewards Program states that you have to belong to whatever organization is linked to the discount for 30 days, however, we've heard many dealerships are not making people wait the 30 days. You will want to talk to the dealership you're wanting to purchase the vehicle through to see if they are willing to let you use the control number prior to the 30 days.



No problem i think we worked out the price but i still wouldnt get a code until 30 days out so lets just see how this shakes out. I appreciate the feedback.
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Hope everyone had a great 4th of July weekend!

Anyone have any fun stories to share from time on the trails over the holiday??
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Wow... how the summer flies!!!

Quick tip of the week:

Spill kits! Despite the fact that oil comes from the earth, it is very important that we work to keep oil and other fluids from contaminating our trails. Breakage happens. Seals go bad. Its part of the deal... So what can we do?

- Inspect your vehicle regularly and before each trip for leaks, and fix them as soon as you can. As if you were looking for another excuse to get into the garage and out of domestic duties...
- Either purchase a pre-made spill kit, or make your own. This includes durable large-capacity garbage bags, absorbent material, etc
- If you have a fluid spill on the trail, please scoop up any contaminated soil and bag it, disposing of it at an appropriate location (not your pesky neighbor's garden.)
- On rock (think Utah), use absorbent materials to wipe and clean up the spill as best as you can.

The dinosaur unions who protect their exclusive placement of oil in the earth thank you. As do we. Have a great weekend everyone!
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Thanks tread lightly for all the orv support!
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Time for a long over-due tip of the week...

Labor Day is coming up here in a couple weeks. I'm sure everyone is excited, and hopefully has some plans to hit the trails!!

Labor Day also happens to be one of the busiest weekends on public lands, so with that in mind... We would like to make a couple recommendations, if we may.

-Play it respectful. There will be thousands of people out enjoying the public lands. Please keep that in mind, and slow down around high-traffic areas and areas of low visibility. You never know what could be around that blind corner...

-Play it safe. Use all the proper safety gear, and seat belts on vehicles designed to use them. We want you all to be around to talk trash about how "insane that obstacle was" or how "great that trail is". For the more visual learners... A video from our friends at Stay The Trail in Colorado: StayTheTrail's Channel - YouTube

-Play it sober. Beers are best enjoyed in camp after the tires have stopped turning. A gentle reminder that you can still get a DUI in many areas, even on the trail.

-Play it fun. Get out there and hit the trails. The forum should be VACANT over the weekend...!
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This is great. Thanks for all the support and education over the years TL. I grew up on ATVs (started at age 3), made the switch to Jeeps at age 19. I learned the TL principles at a very young age as it was part of the ATV Safety Institute's rider training course, which my dad taught for about 10 years. I'm now doing my part by passing on the knowledge. The 4x4 101 course I wrote and teach for my Jeep club has a large section on Tread Lighty and it's importance! I plan on getting Master certified eventually.
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And even though it's mid-week...


Tip of the week:

Again, as part of both the "Educate Yourself" and "Do Your Part" principles, this week I am encouraging everyone to take a small amount of time out of your evening and complete our Online Awareness Course.

This online activity covers the basics of the Tread Lightly! principles and is a wonderful way to quiz your knowledge of what responsible recreation means to us as a community.

Enjoy: Tread Lightly - Online Awareness Course

Also, everyone who completes the course is entered into a drawing for a free hat, courtesy of Cabelas.
Great refresher. Happy Thanksgiving and enjoy the Great Outdoors!
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Good afternoon everyone! Just wanted to toss out a quick hello to let you know what Tread Lightly! has been up to recently, and where we're headed...

Past Events:
Phoenix International Sportsmens Expo - Phoenix, AZ
Salt Lake City International Sportsmens Expo - Salt Lake City, UT
Scouting University - Greenville, NC

Upcoming Events:
Denver St. Patricks Day Parade (Guest appearance by LightFoot, with Stay The Trail) - March 17 in Denver, CO
National OHV Safety and Education Conference - March 26 and 27 in Sacramento, CA
Easter Jeep Safari - April 4 to 8 in Moab, UT
Stewardship Day @ The Capital - April 19 in Denver, CO
Scout-O-Rama - May 5 in Salt Lake City, UT
Overland Expo - May 18 to 20 in Flagstaff, AZ

We are scheduling Tread Trainer and Master Trainer courses coming up, so if your organization, club, business, school, or agency is interested in hosting a course, please visit our Tread Trainer page: Tread Lightly - Tread Trainer

Stewardship Grants application deadline has been extended back to April 1, so if your member club is interested in some money for projects, please visit the page here for details: Tread Lightly - Stewardship Grants

We've also recently added a $60 dollar, three year option for our members, and with over 90% of your donation going directly towards our education, outreach, and stewardship programs your contributions are being put to good use!

Tread Lightly! leads a national effort to protect recreation access by promoting ethics education and stewardship programs nationwide.
Get involved, and Do your part to support responsible enjoyment of America's lands and waterways.

And in case spring comes in like a lion and keeps you off the trail, entertain and educate yourself for an hour or so by taking our online awareness course!

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Well... if it just hasn't been a busy couple of months.

Where have we been?
Denver St. Patricks Day Parade (Guest appearance by LightFoot, with Stay The Trail) - March 17 in Denver, Colorado
National OHV Safety and Education Conference - March 26 and 27 in Sacramento, California
Easter Jeep Safari - April 4 to 8 in Moab, Utah
Stewardship Day @ The Capital - April 19 in Denver, Colorado
Scout-O-Rama - May 5 in Salt Lake City, Utah
Overland Expo - May 18 to 20 in Flagstaff, Arizona
Master Tread Trainer Course - May 26 in Portland, Oregon
Colorado State Parks Seasonal Training - May 30 at Sylvan Lake State Park, Colorado
Grand Mesa Jeep Club Show - June 2 in Grand Junction, Colorado
Colorado State Parks Seasonal Training - June 6 at Mueller State Park, Colorado
National Get Outdoors Day - June 9 in Salt Lake City, Utah
National Get Outdoors Day - June 9 in Denver, CO (Celebrating our mascot's 10th birthday!)

And on the heels of that, where are we going?
Master Tread Trainer Course for Stay The Trail - June 18th in Denver, Colorado
Sun Valley Adaptive Sports / Higher Ground Week - July 2 to July 6 in Sun Valley, Idaho area
FJ Summit (Including stewardship trail run day!) - July 18 to July 21 in Ouray, Colorado
Master Tread Trainer Course - August 28 to August 29 at Camp Sol R Crown in Wilmot, Wisconsin
National Order of the Arrow Conference (Boy Scouts of America) - August 1 to August 4 in East Lansing, Michigan
Master Tread Trainer Course (NOHVCC Conference) - August 21 in Great Falls, Montana
NOHVCC Conference - August 21 to August 25 in Great Falls, Montana

That sort of covers it... Please pay attention to our Tread Trainer Course listings for additional courses if you're interested in helping us promote the Tread Lightly! message throughout your area.

Tread Lightly! has also instituted a blog to give weekly updates on our goings-on. Have a look! treadlightlyoutdoors



Jason, Lori, and Justin with the mobile billboards sponsored by Drive Off-Road in Moab during EJS


Justin doing a workshop with seasonal employees from Colorado State Parks


Lightfoot with Woodsy and Smokey, at National Get Outdoors Day in Denver


Hanging out with Del from BRC and Matt from Stay The Trail Ambassadors, at the Grand Mesa Jeep Club Show

In addition to the stewardship grants program ( Tread Lightly - Stewardship Grants ), we are also about ready to start round 2 of our interpretive panel program. Over 2000 of these panels were placed last year on public lands throughout the country, promoting responsible use under our Ride On (motorized) and Respected Access (recreational shooting) campaigns. We are looking to place at least that number out again this year, so keep your eyes peeled.

Interpretive Panels Program | Respected Access is Open Access

We have some really big things coming down the trail at Tread Lightly!. Our memberships are up, our exposure is increasing through numerous outlets and partnerships, and we've had a huge response for donations for our annual eBay charity auction coming up later this year. We would like to say THANK YOU to all of our supporters, members, member clubs, and partners. Without your help, this wouldn't be possible.

Please consider joining Tread Lightly! and helping us continue to proactively maintain responsible access through ethics and stewardship. The list of benefits is long, but most importantly, you're helping to protect America's public lands and waterways for continued future use.

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Good morning everyone, and welcome to August!

We've been busy, yet again... What's that? You'd like a quick run-down? Absolutely... Here goes:

Where we've been-
Master Trainer Course (hosted by Stay The Trail Colorado) - June 18 in Denver, CO
Awareness Workshop for Cheyenne Mountain State Park - June 28 in Colorado Springs, CO
Tread Trainer Course (hosted by Sun Valley Adaptive Sports) - July 2 in Sun Valley, ID
Mountain Bike Nationals at Sun Valley - July 4-6 in Sun Valley, ID
FJ Summit - July 19-21 in Ouray, CO
Master Trainer Course at Camp Sol R Crown (hosted by the Boy Scouts of America) - July 28 and 29 in Wilmot, WI
National Order of the Arrow Conference - July 31 to August 4 in East Lansing, MI

Where are we headed?
Bass Pro Shops Land and Wildlife Expo - August 10-11 in Nashville, TN (Tread Trainers staffing)
CAST for Kids - August 11 at Strawberry Res, UT
Master Trainer Course (hosted by NOHVCC) - August 21 in Great Falls, MT (More details on our website)
NOHVCC Conference - August 21-25 in Great Falls, MT
Tread Trainer Course (hosted by Northeast Ohio 4x4) - September 31 in Windham, OH
Master Trainer Course (hosted by Rausch Creek Off-Road Park) - October 6-7 in Tremont, PA
BSA Outdoor Ethics Conference - October 24-27 in Hot Springs, AR
SEMA - October 30 to November 2 in Las Vegas, NV
Master Trainer Course (hosted by Uwharrie Off Road Training Center) - November 16-17 in Uwharrie, NC

If you are interested in participating or hosting a Master Trainer or Tread Trainer course in your area, please check the website. We will be getting the 2013 schedule running soon - Tread Lightly - Tread Trainer


Our educational posters program is up and running, including making these posters available for purchase by land managers and partner organizations. These can be fully customized to address the needs of the area. For more information on this program - Tread Lightly - Respected Access Educational Posters




A few pics for you all:


Jason covering learning styles with a Master Trainer course in Sun Valley, ID


Our new Master Trainers with the Boy Scouts


Justin teaching awareness courses at the National Order of the Arrow Conference in East Lansing, MI


Our Stewardship run group at FJ Summit in Ouray, CO


And because they're fun... A friendly "tip of the day"

Under the principle of "Do Your Part", as we move into the later days of Summer, there is still plenty of time to be involved outdoors. Keep your eye out for stewardship opportunities in your area and lend a hand. Taking even a tiny bit of time out of your day to pick up trash or fix a trail issue helps to promote the positive side of our community. A recent blog post from our Education and Stewardship Programs Manager going into a little more detail on the topic - Because Sometimes, It’s the Little Things… | treadlightlyoutdoors


Happy trails...!
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Apologies if you were looking at attending the NOHVCC Master Course in Great Falls this month... As of 8/8/12, this course has been cancelled.
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Good evening all!

We hope that you've all been having a great trail season, and especially hope that everyone got a chance to see the fantastic changing of the colors going on throughout the country.

As the season winds down, and gear and your trail machine are getting stowed for the season, we'd like to encourage everyone to take that few extra minutes during the pre-storage maintenance to put in a little cleaning time. As with our riding season recommendation of cleaning your bike/quad/4x4 to help stop the spread of invasive species, the pre-storage cleaning provides a perfect time to take a fine-toothed brush to it and really clean out those wheel-wells, skid plates and undercarriage, floorboards, and the like to get rid of any unwanted hitchhikers. As our mothers always told us... "Your room will be easier to clean if you just KEEP it clean". Well thanks Mom, we get it now. Keeping our trail vehicles clean after our adventures makes it easier to clean up next time, and helps us all by keeping native plants where they belong.

And for the family haulers, tow-rigs and 4x4's, here's a great solution to containing the dirt, grass, and anything else your shoes may pick up on the trail once you've gotten that rig all spotless... New floormats! And since you're getting new floormats... Maybe some that say "Tread Lightly!" like these from our proud partners at Drive OffRoad.com???

So. Once that snow falls, and the trail rig goes to sleep for the winter (unless you're like us and don't mind a little snow-bashing here and there) please consider taking that extra step. Your gear will thank you, and so will we. Have a great upcoming weekend everyone!
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I just Joined because it is a good cause, reading through this i didnt know we got discounts from other venders, That is pretty cool! what is the goodyear discount?
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Been a member for a number of years and usually give them a relatively big donation every year. Simply put, without a big education program such as Tread Lightly!'s (and actually having at least some of it absorbed by the off-road motor sports community) we are most definately going to have far fewer places to wheel in the future.

All the whining and screaming in the world will not prevent closures if what is actually happening on the ground makes the closures necessary. Erosion and water quality are big issues with off road motor sports whether we want to admit it or not. Something we should all be thinking about each and every time we hit the trail but that very few of us do actually do think about.
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Being in South Texas and having beaches, trails, off-roading and hills a couple hours away in addition to hunting and fishing I figure we can get more people involved with conservation without being too extreme. It's a great organization and I'm very happy with the strides they have made.

Also, saving a few thousand on a new Jeep never hurt anyone. ;-)
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Travel Responsibly... Go over, not around, obstacles to avoid widening the trails...
How did the trail start? By going over all obstacles?

Or, who built the trail over obstacles? Some eco-elitist trying to keep everyone out?

What if, by going around, I am not "widening" the trail but "correcting" the trail?

What difference will going around a puddle make when those ATVs are going to turn the world into whoop-dee-doos anyway?

Can trail ethics really keep the flatlanders and city slickers from putting off limits everything that's not paved?

Just asking.

I've found that if you wait a couple of decades you can go back in, but the "trails" are then paved.

I'll probably join anyway just for the education efforts on the important stuff (everything else). There are way too many idiots out there trying to fowl everything for the rest of us.

"Everyone on the freeway slower than you is an idiot. Everyone that passes you is a maniac." -George Carlin

Does Tread Lightly have room in its manifesto for something about limiting engine noises at night in camping areas?
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I just Joined because it is a good cause, reading through this i didnt know we got discounts from other venders, That is pretty cool! what is the goodyear discount?
Ditto. Goodyear discount is a $100 rebate on a set of tires.

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Been a member for a number of years and usually give them a relatively big donation every year. Simply put, without a big education program such as Tread Lightly!'s (and actually having at least some of it absorbed by the off-road motor sports community) we are most definately going to have far fewer places to wheel in the future.

All the whining and screaming in the world will not prevent closures if what is actually happening on the ground makes the closures necessary. Erosion and water quality are big issues with off road motor sports whether we want to admit it or not. Something we should all be thinking about each and every time we hit the trail but that very few of us do actually do think about.


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Being in South Texas and having beaches, trails, off-roading and hills a couple hours away in addition to hunting and fishing I figure we can get more people involved with conservation without being too extreme. It's a great organization and I'm very happy with the strides they have made.

Also, saving a few thousand on a new Jeep never hurt anyone. ;-)
Responsibility is better than restriction. And below sticker is better than MSRP. Win-Win.
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How did the trail start? By going over all obstacles?

Depends on the trail. Many new trails opening are being designed to provide for a specific type of challenge... So in essence, yes. They are starting by going over the obstacles.

Or, who built the trail over obstacles? Some eco-elitist trying to keep everyone out?

Not entirely sure what you're getting at with the "eco-elitist". In the Rockies (where i'm from), many of our trails started through old mining roads or game routes, which over the course of time manifested into the trails we currently have. Most trails are fairly well established, and so in order to maintain the challenge that many trails are noted for, as well as protect the vegetation surrounding, we encourage people to stay on those established (and designated) routes.

There are a number of more difficult trails that have gate-keepers to establish a level of driver skill and vehicle capability early on, to avoid issues later up the trail where the driver/vehicle is over-whelmed and bypasses obstacles. I would defer to the local clubs and organizations that do the maintenance in cooperation with the agencies as to their "ratings" of trails.

What if, by going around, I am not "widening" the trail but "correcting" the trail?

Valid question. As I noted above, many trails have progressed from mining roads or other types of primitive roads, and through the desire to challenge one's self, have started to include obstacles, or as obstacles change, the trail morphs. Best I can recommend? Talk to the land manager and those local clubs again... See what the historic trail looked like and where it went. If an obstacle is deemed to be "off-trail", help correct it and provide information to others as to where they can find legal trails that offer what that obstacle was.

What difference will going around a puddle make when those ATVs are going to turn the world into whoop-dee-doos anyway?

Whoops vs trail widening... Truthfully, separate issues. You are correct that trail use (not just ATVs) may lead to whoops when the trail is not maintained. Many adopting clubs use trail dozers, etc to construct trails that are more resistant to whoops forming, but sometimes, it just takes maintenance.

Going around puddles impacts and denudes the vegetation, increasing the chances of additional impact. We recommend going through the puddle/mud just fast enough to get through, with minimal wheel spin.

Can trail ethics really keep the flatlanders and city slickers from putting off limits everything that's not paved?

Also... Valid question. I have a 2 part answer for you. 1) Yes. Many of the arguments to close trails and OHV areas is based on negative public perception from a minority of users. The more positive the public perception, the less support those claims will hold. 2) We have recently just launched a full-on effectiveness study in Utah (in partnership with the agencies) to see how much of a difference ethics/education/stewardship actually make. We surveyed land managers and motorized users to set a baseline, and will be examining this over the course of the next 4-5 years. This information will be used to help guide future efforts in helping to keep public lands open for the public and in good condition as a shared resource for all Americans.

Just asking.

Absolutely no harm in that.

I've found that if you wait a couple of decades you can go back in, but the "trails" are then paved.

I'll probably join anyway just for the education efforts on the important stuff (everything else). There are way too many idiots out there trying to fowl everything for the rest of us.

Appreciate it. And to be clear... These are all guidelines, not rules. We don't make rules. Agencies make rules. As I said above... Responsibility is always better than restriction. That applies to far more than just trail access as well.

"Everyone on the freeway slower than you is an idiot. Everyone that passes you is a maniac." -George Carlin

Wise man.

Does Tread Lightly have room in its manifesto for something about limiting engine noises at night in camping areas?
Yep. Under "Respect the rights of others", we encourage people to be respectful and considerate of their engine noise, music, and groups. Many states have regulations in place, but yet again... Playing nice is the first step.

Hope that answers your questions.

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