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Old 02-28-2012, 09:45 PM   #1
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So, after quite a long time, I starting a new project.

1984 rolling tub and chassis CJ7 and a 1976 J10 Honcho

I have had my CJ for 15 years its seen a multitude of motors,(stock258, 4.0, Ford 302, built 302) now I'm doing a total overhaul....

Its going to take a long while,

The PLAN;

Revive the 360/400/quadratrac combo,
Scrap the D30/AMC20,
Install Dana44 front and rears(outbard the front springs/ new perches on rear)
Cleanup the tub(it has some cancer)
Fresh paint,
etc.......

I spent all day working the J10 into shape....starter bendix gear is chewed up. flexplate ring gear is pretty rough in spots.....going to try to get the starter repaired tomorrow, ordered a ring gear.

I think I will take the risk of chewing up the bendix gear I really wanna hear the motor run before i go to all the trouble of yanking the J10 apart.... if the 360 wont run(without a major investment) im going to scrap the j10 for cash for another idea

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It lives!

So I spent a few hours on the J10 today,

Remaned starter installed, the ring gear wasn't in to bad of shape but I ordered a new one anyway, a few of the teeth were questionable. As they say, where there is smoke, there will be fire.

Installed a new selaniod(sp)

Pulled the carb off, cleaned it thoroughly, reinstalled it. Flushed out the fuel filter(I will get a new one tomorrow)

Drained the fuel tank(that's a beotch) reinstalled the tank.

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Picked up my daughter from school today, at 7 I am going to make a jeeper out of her yet.

We picked up the new ring gear and a new fuel filter while we were out. Once we got home we spent about an hour tweaking a few things, tightened belts and clamps, topped off fluids, bleed the brakes, yada yada yada.

Then she and I took it for a run....there is not feeling like have your kid sit in your lap and steer an old truck, not really sure who had a better time. Well worth every second I've spent on this Heep so far.....
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It is great doing projects with the kids. Glad to hear you got it moving. Some pics would be nice.
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I have the best of intentions to post some photos, check out the my last project (Back to Basics) the CJ and J10 are on page one as they sat for close to the last decade.

I've got a video of the 360 as it ran Tuesday night. Going to post a link to it this weekend.
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It came to me in a dream, The CJ10!

E I have had concerns about driveshaft issues since this projects conception. Last night something just clicked.

Why not just swap the body to the J10 frame? At this point the modifactions needed to the CJs frame are extensive. Why should I spend all that time and energy on a weaker shorter frame? The work I would do to the CJs frame can be redirected to its body. I'll strech it to fit the J10 frame. It will be about 9" longer th a Scrambler.

The wife has a '12 JK Unlimited Sport, I am not allowed to touch unless supervised by her, not like I would do anything crazy like cut it up or something! No trust there. We love the room it provides and the ride quality is leaps better then a 2dr. A 4dr CJ would be cool but I think I would rather have slightly more knee room for back seat passengers and a hell of a lot more cargo space. The CJ10. AMC built one in the 80s I believe it was supposed to be a plane tugg.

I wish I could work as fast as I can dream.
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Some photos of progress

After work today I tackled cleaning up the J10, not quite a full detail, but after sitting for 5+ years it had grown a bunch of junk. Sorting through all of it was kinda like a treasure hunt. I sold the tool box, got a small scrap metal pile going, and took half a truck bed worth of garbage to the dump. Anybody need a PINK Kohler pedestal sink? Because I got one. Where from? Who the hell knows.

I washed out the bed, the bedfloor is still in fairly good shape...its good metal. I plan on reusing as the bedfloor in the CJ10.

Yanking the Bed off turned into a little more involement then I figured, the fuel tank was secure to the tank, I could not see that because the HD skid plate was attached to the frame....

My two neighbors help me flip the bed off once I got it free. I have really good neighbors, I'm actually stripping the J10 down in ones yard to keep the wife off my back, she says I'm piling up to much junk. eh.

I stripped the fender-wells under the hood while they wire-brushed the frame out back.

At that point the wind picked up as a storm was blowing in, we picked up and put up for the night. hopefully the rain will have stopped by the time I get home from work tomorrow after
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Bum bum chicka chickaaaaa

Today started out pretty rough.....

Horrible storms early AM, which lead to getting my GMC stuck in the backyard before I left to go work, this in turn was "resolved" by the first recovery by the wife's 2012 JK and with her driving. Don't see living that down ANYTIME soon. The day just got worse from there, until 6pm when I was able to get to what I really intended to spend my Sat doing, wrenching of course.

Nothing happened easy tonight, even though I spent about $15 worth of WD40 and PBBlaster on every knutt and bolt I could find one night of soaking was no match for the 36 years that have lapsed seizing about 95% of said knutts and bolts. After the day I had, it was more like therapy.

Have I mentioned how great my neighbors are? I did? Well, I reiterate AWESOME!

Tonight we got the front clip off, and removed the cab. It sucks that I can describe so much work with so few words.

While Thomas wire wheeled the frame, Jerry and I drug the CJ7 from my house to his yard. We then organized our work space to put frame next to frame. Started doing a side by side comparison. We decided we were worn out at 1AM. Until tomorrow.....................
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Found this last night

Not exactly what I have in mind, very close though.
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You scratch my back, I'll return the favor.

In basically three days, the guys and I have stripped two vehicles down to rolling chassis.

To the point now where a little fab will be required. I called on my buddy Scooby, the one that welded up my driveshaft on Hobo, he's going to loan me his buzzbox.

Problem one, no 240 in Jerry's shop.

However, everything pretty much being done in Jerry's yard, using mostly his tools, and his help. It was time to begin to return the favor. Between the two of us we had enough spare parts and pieces to run a 100amp service to his shop. Huge improvement considering its essentially been run off of the 30amp circuit and dropcords off the main service on his house. He now has dedicated circuits for the 240, Office, Shop, Little Shed, Big Shed, Yard Lights(We are going to light it up like a helipad), air compressor, Outlets(Plenty!!!!!), and Beer Fridge

Tomorrow I am going to see what kind of steel stock I can scratch up and grab some cutoff wheels, I can borrow a torch set but dot really want to buy gas for them, well I can spend that cash elsewhere first.
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I was planning to swing by the local steel supplier after work, however the project on I am working on, modifying a load bearing a cinderblock wall, required me to pick up a 20' stick of 4x6x5/16 angle. Since I will only be using 13' of it, I got a 7' drop and charged it off to the job

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While stopping in at the Big Orange Box, I always check the clearance section at the back of the store, found a discontinued set of 3 Irwin Vicegrips, marked at $11.00, at the check out it was $00.11 I was like that cant be right, they called the manager, his response "That's what it rang up, that's what it will be, unless you want me to override the clearance and charge you original price?" Na, don't need you to do that. Also got a couple LED headlamps for $2.00 (If ya'll haven't noticed I am doing this project mostly at night.) I grabbed 15 cutoff wheels for a grinder, Not knowing how many it would take to cut the block lintels

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Dad has a paint store, Ben Moore, it is a small shop. Building has been there for over a century, started as a hardware store, now the onlything left is the paint store, and some odds and ends that there will hardly ever be any use for. That's TMI but anyway, He has some SLLLLLOOOOOOWWWWW moving paint that has been there for quite some time, I searched for about 2 hours and found a gallon of two-component aliphatic acrylic urethane in Safety Black, the label is at least 20years old....

Features:
Can be applied over tightly adhered rust
Excellent chemical resistance
Excellent abrasion resistance
Excellent gloss retention
Excellent color retention
Very Low VOC content
Can build up to 8 mils wet(POR15 can only build 1-2mil wet)
Equals the results of the best baked finishes
Interior or exterior application
High traffic floors
Contains UV absorber

Recommended For:
Buildings, cement trucks, airplanes, equipment, waste treatment plants, machinery, food processing plants, rolling stock, chemical plants, construction equipment, pulp and paper mills, highway and mining equipment, fertilizer plants, lockers, breweries, storage tanks, power generating plants, bridges, oil field equipment, towers, bottling plants.

Also grabbed a quart of Red Alkyd Metal Primer. <--This stuff is the equivalent of POR15 and is the appropriate Primer for 2part AAU.

As far as work on the CJ10, Not much...although
A Fellow Forum member is coming to buy the T5 out of the CJ7, I spent some time going through it making sure it was fit to run, dont want to sell a boat anchor. I feel confident with it now, I'd sell it to my own grandmother.

Scooby brought over his welder....WE got distracted and fixed a quadrunner frame that was cracked and fabed up a gusset...I told the boy that owns it he ought to be able to ride it as soon as he puts the fenders back on...teach'em young.
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Gixxer, that makes two of us.
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Is that a World Cab on the CJ8?
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Worked on the body mounts today...I will be reusing 12 of the J10s for 17 I will need for the CJ10. I picked the hardest two to start with, as I have been told eat and elephant ass first.
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Picked up a couple 500w work lights and a 7" grinder stone today... hung the work lights about 15' in the shadetrees, tired of working in shadows
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on-board air

This afternoon was spent on my well. it froze last night

After that fiasco I didn't have really have alot of momentum to jump into dragging out all the tools for a short time. So I did a little rummaging thru my junk...I've had intentions of converting the York to onboard, but purpose built for a family ride capable of being a DD here in Georgia, I have been divided on the idea. AC would be really cool. Literally. Found a little pancake compressor in my digging excursion. Going to run a power inverter anyway, so it won't be to be of a deal to mount the compressor in the back somewhere. I am still trying to figure what I want to do for air storage...a tank between the frame rails? or a back bumper?

Any feedback?

Also I modified Scooby's weld cart with some larger wheels and casters and a pull handle. He has been talking about doing it for a couple years. I just so happened to unearth some that worked.
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The Butcher showed up.



Today I got the 6 cab mounts done first, the flopped the bed back on the frame, and cut the bedsides off. After I did this I had to run back to the day job, bills got to be paid.

Got back after a 2 and a half hour delay. then I cut a fairly decent CJ7 tub in half. Slid it in the frame using some urethane body mounts and a two inch lift block. The bed will be installed on 1/4" rubber isolators. This will make the transition between the cab and bed less then the factory step by about 3/4". The 2" lift also gives me a little more clearance under the hood for another idea I am kicking around

I am also going to straighted that funky angle that is the wheelwell on the CJ7 behind the B pillar(if you will allow) this will afoord the much needed room to slid the driver and passenger front seats back by about 4". HELL YEAH!!!!

Tomorrow I am going to pick up some 3/4" thin-wall square tube, which will be used to build a frame to support the extended tubsides.

Jerry made me a "Hello my name is Butcher" name tag because of the way i was just hacking up parts today. He thought it was funny as hell.
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No physical progress today. I did, however, pickup 40' of 3/4" square tube. 11 Gauge, it will be used to give the bedsides some rigidity(sp?) I also plan on sheathing the inside bedwalls with something(yet to be determined ) and insulating the 3/4"square void with polystyrene sheeting, for thermal reasons, road vibration, and acoustic value.

I bought a new syphon feed media blaster, mine was missing the tip. It's ridiculous when buying a complete new is cheaper the replacing the nozzle I picked up some 20/40 abrasive as well.

Unsure how much will get done this weekend...Family time is priority for the next 48 hours
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Score!!! BIG RUBBER!

My buddy Ben got some new 37s....GAVEme has old 37s....
Now to find some 17" steelies.
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How to bargin with the wife.....

It struck me last night. I have 17"six lugs on my GMC. Im needing tires on my work truck. 18" load E tires are WAY cheaper then 17" load Es.

^see where all this is headed?
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The Queen has spoken.

After letting me go play next door for a few hours tonight, I went home, upon pulling up at the house, My wife asked me to take her down the road to the Shadetree, actually showed interest on her own without me badgering.

She listened to me ramble about technical stuff and pipe dreams and such, all the while as I wonder"What is this interest going to cost me?"

When we got back to the house, it all became clear. "OK, This project I get the first ride in, NObody else before me. Got it, Mister?" Me: Yes dear, loud and clear. "And one more thing, after you, I drive it first, understood?"

I swear, if she wasn't stuck with me already, I'd propose to her.
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Shop.....

Monday I started a deck for a family. Why does this matter you might ask? Because I am tearing off the old one. It was decked with 2x6the and framed with 2x8 and 4x4....basically. enough material to build a 20x30 shop. This is going to be necessary for a paint booth....but first I need to sandblast the frame. This build may be on a watertight budget, but I truly am aiming at show quality results

We should have a roof to work under by Thursday and hopefully a fully enclosed shop by this weekend....
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In case anyone was wondering why I haven't done anything to the CJ10.....ran out of argon.
spend the money on welding gas or groceries. Hey fat boys have to eat. Watertight budget remember? Pretty sure I am not completely alone in that situation.
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you have some of the best build threads on this forum. I honor the amount of time you spend working, and that includes the non-jeep stuff. Great outlook on life.

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Thanks on all counts Big,

To be honest, my wife is a nurse and works 2nd shift, it allows me quite a few hours of "freetime".
That and the fact I have never been scared to sweat, go a long way.

To be fair, there are other guys here that are WAY better then I, one day I am going to keep up. That's where I'm shooting for anyhow.

To be or Not to be?....well it is not much of a question. My Dad always told me as I was growing up, "Can't never could and Won't never will.".

With that in mind, I can and I will, pretty much the driving force behind what we drive ain't it?
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I am abit concerned that she thinks this is the way to drive.

I blame her mother.
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Shop Progress #1



So it ended up being 23'x30'....We are going to put doors on both ends and one side.....this means a drive thru shop....And two bays 15'x 23'
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Paint Schemin......

safety red, Safety white, safety blue....

We all know these colors work together....and it is a 76(well half of it is)and it is ALL AMC

No Im not aiming for a mail carrier... just showing the colors together....
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