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Old 09-18-2008, 04:36 PM   #61
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Genright makes a great cage. they ship you all the pre-bent tube work and you weld it together. check their website to see it. it does not interfere with the rear seats or access to them. Its the cage I was considering before I decided to go all custom.


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Old 09-19-2008, 01:38 AM   #62
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Yeup, one and only one. He's usually in pretty good demand so at times he might be working on a few different projects at the same time. But he does such killer work that no one cares about waiting an extra day or two.

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I can deff tell he is one of the best in the US. The lines on that cage are pretty complex. Its amazing to me, only one guy!?
Oh, and White. What cages are you seeing that have extra tube behind the front seats? Those are only going to be for harnesses and I've honestly never seen bolt in cages that have those stock. Also you can also leave them out if you don't want them.

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Old 09-19-2008, 07:08 AM   #63
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Yeah it might just be the weld in's that I saw. Probably defeats the purpose of spending $$ on a cage if you're not going to harness in.
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well, we were planning on sinking the tank into the tub but its not worth the effort and it would interferre with the suspension movement and the rear axle truss. Plus it would require us to remove the crossmember that is currently above the tank that some of the body mounts sit on. So, Hunter will simply relocate the fuel skid to inside the tub and bolt it to the floor, then the stock fuel tank will be strapped to that. Then Hunter will build a "firewall" or thin sheet cover around the exposed tank.

The stretch parts are ordered and when they get here the jeep finally gets the 104" wheelbase that it deserves.
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Old 09-26-2008, 07:56 PM   #65
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I picked up the rubber hose fuel injection line from NAPA (180psi) today. Tomorrow I'm going to the shop to see how far I can get with relocating the fuel tank into the tub. I'll be on my own so I'm not sure how far along I'll get with it... John will be working on his own Sherrif buggy rig to prepare it for the following day when he takes it out to apprehend the baddies.

While I was in there today I took some more photos. I don't wheel anymore, I just take pictures now

The windshield bars are in and so are the door bars. The CO2 tank bracket is just bolted and tack welded in place for now. We also still need to lift the cage out of the jeep a little so John can get to some hard to reach welding areas on it.

other than some final welding, the cage is basically all done... THEN I paint I'm thinking a pewter color. Ace hardware sells some good rattle can paint in that color. They call it pewter but its basically a dark grey/black. I might paint the corners and front tube fenders to match.






johns attention to detail is amazing. Here he filled in the hole in the crusher corners which used to accomodate the fuel filler. prior to filling it there was a half moon there that was really bugging him. lol. I didn't mind but he wanted it to look perfect and it turned out awesome. he beveled the edges welded both sides and ground/smoothed the outer surface perfectly smooth... can't even tell the fuel hole was there.


* trick photography John did not cut off my finger.


Another example of his attention to detail... in this photo you he cut the lower tailgate hinge in half to allow for more material to be cut off from the fender... he cut in closer to the tailgate... that gives more tire clearance when the axle is moved back. He filled in the areas on the crusher corners where the hinge used to be and connected the lower piece of the corner to the rest of the crusher corner. it looks like the corners came that way. impressive work.


I really can't wait to wheel so I'm done adding to the 'to do list" for the cage project. I'm sure Hunter is happy about that. I kept adding things on the project list but he's a cool guy and always happily agrees to do them. Dang, I forgot to take pictures of the frame tie ins. those were cool how he did that. They are tucked in close to the frame so I won't be snagging them on rocks. Anyways, I can't wait to wheel. I think the stretch upgrade parts should be arriving any day now.
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update... the jeep is waiting for me at Hunters shop. I just need to pick it up. THen in mid nov AbsoluteOffroad does the suspension mods. So I've got some time in between to put scratches on it.

I'll get better pics but here is what it looks like from weeks ago before the seats and harness and tank was hooked up and fuel lines and stuff. I'll take better pictures with it cleaned up and with a better camera. The genright sliders look awesome on this by the way.
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Looks great! Can't wait to see some clearer pictures of all the little details!
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Looks good although those pictures make my eyes water!
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Are you going to cover the tank? BTW The cage looks great.
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Are you going to cover the tank? BTW The cage looks great.
Thanks. After the suspenssion is done I'm taking it back to Hunters shop and he'll lower/sink the tank a couple inches into the tub. Then he's going to make a bolt on removable cover that shrouds the tank. It will be flush even over the top of the wheel wells. That will make a nice shelf to bolt/store stuff on and it will also give it a nice finished appearance.

We want to wait till the suspension is done first before doing that to be sure the tank won't hit the rear axle truss.
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the cage is completed, woo hoo! It wasn't just building the cage... countless other things, corners, fuel tank relocated and secured, emissions, fuel lines, seats, harness, cradle, co2 bracket, paint, tailgate hinges, wireing and clean re-routing of the wire, and alot of stuff I can't remember right now. He really works with you to be sure it leaves his shop exactly how you want the rig to be. He's the shop with really cool custom fab work/ideas. no shortcuts or half ass'ing anywhere.

Thanks man!!! Arizona, Tempe, Fabrication-HunterOffroad Fabrication, steel tube fabrication for offroad vehicles and more! is the website :rocon:

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I'll have a few weeks to wheel it before it goes to AbsoluteOffroad for the RK stretch upgrade.

Right now the tank sits on the floor of the tub and is secured using some custom straps and brackets. The straps are adjustable similar to the factory straps. The brackets have some holes he punched in them to allow me to use them as a tie down point for my other gear/junk. This method of securing the tank allowed me to get rid of my very heavy 60-70+ lb warn skid plate. The fuel pickup/sending unit in my tank sits a little lower (an inch?) than the rest of the floor of the tank. So John made a recess in the floor beneath the tank to prevent that dimple in the tanks plastic floor from being pushed up and damaging the sending unit.

after the stretch, Hunter will sink the tank a few inches into the tub and build a nice bolt on removable shroud to cover the tank. It will give it a nice clean finished look and give me some more shelf space to store stuff. We are waiting till after the stretch because John wants to be sure that sinking the tank doesn't get in the way of the rear axle truss, etc.

Thanks again John (hunter). I'm very happy with how this turned out.
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Old 10-30-2008, 09:53 PM   #73
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minimalist built, but strong. Side flop and endo tested
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Looks great Ben! I can't wait to see it after the stretch.
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That is one of the sickest cages I've seen.

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Old 10-31-2008, 12:42 AM   #76
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WOW! did you poop a virgin cause that sh*t is tight.
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Old 11-03-2008, 01:51 PM   #77
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Wow, you didn't waste any time on testing it out.
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ouch! well I suppose it was bound to happen
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You just HAD to test it out didn't you.

Looks awesome Ben. Hows the helmet working?
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That's pretty cool. I bet that stretch would have helped...
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Yeah, the stretch wouldve helped alot. I need to get the front tube work all cut off, its twisted pretty good. The radiater hoop did its job though, was able to finish the trail in the jeep no problem.

the frame is bent in the front about 6+ inches to the left. Going to have to get that straigtend. I'll just ditch the grill, front fenders, and maybe the hood too. Hunter will tube it similar to how Joe Daro's and Hackles jeeps are in the front, without fenders... THEN the stretch goes on. in another 3 months I'll get to try it again

The helmet works great. I bought two over at the local sporting store. $25 each I think. A good inexpensive investment. And if you do something stupid like roll or flop, people will still say you were smart enough to wear the brain bucket
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no specific measurements but i sketched this up on cad today at school cause i didnt feel like doing work
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lmao, you sound like me when I was in my design class last year bardenk. I designed a hawse fairlead, full long arms, belly up skid, gas tank skid, and some other stuff. I dont remeber it all but when I was bored Id just go to town on what was in my head.

The cage came out so sweet, figures you'd test it though. Cant wait to see how the stretch works!
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i know my cage design shows no bends but i was wondering if i were to design gussets for every joint would my cage still be good as far as strength is concerned? i would like to try and design one that works with minimal bends because i don't have any access to a bender but a chop saw is 125 at my local tractor supply i was thinking about 1 3/4 dom gussets (out of 3/16 plate) if need be everywhere and adding a rear bar across the back similar to the front harness restraints and two either 3/4 or 1 inch dom tubes angled at like 105 degrees and 75 degrees for that extra little bit and asthetics on the frontgoing from the dash bar to the top of the a pillar
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kinda like this... the skinny red lines represent the 3/16 plate gussets

edit: wont upload sorry ill get it tomorrow
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no specific measurements but i sketched this up on cad today at school cause i didnt feel like doing work
that looks good. I'd put an X vertically behind the front seats though. In a roll over it keeps the b piller from collapsing. And instead of straight front to back bars consider X or triangles overhead of the driver and passanger... similar to how you show for the rear passangers.

Youve got good skills, I didn't have any cad tools and wouldn't know how to use them if I did. I just sketched and talked with Hunter, the guy who did my work, and he took it from there.
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so...stretch done yet?
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so...stretch done yet?
Unfortunately Ben did an ENDO in his rig the first trail he had it out after the cage. Cage did its job and kept him safe, but he bent the hell out of his frame. It's currently undergoing a frame straightening and addition of new motor mounts, etc... Then it's going back to the fab shop to redo the front tube work before the stretch goes on.

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