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Old 02-23-2010, 12:49 AM   #1
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Champion 3 row aluminum rad full install

Some of you may know ive had some cooling issues in the past. everything is new and i still couldnt keep the jeep cool under heavy abuse, I was running a 3 row all metal and it just wasnt cutting the mustard.

So I found a local company that has a 3 row full tigged (no epoxy) drop in radiator for 200 bucks. yes 200 bucks... so i had to jump on it. especially because i have a run coming up that takes me 200 miles one way through the mojave desert, and the last 2 years ive had to stop to let things cool.

so heres my install, after a couple days on the freeway my temps have GREATLY dropped. of course my motor is still at 190, but i have my autometer gauge probed in the radiator. I can barely get the gauge to move with the E fan on. before my radiator would run 150 to 210 on the freeway.

so i started by draining the coolant out of the rad and block.
unplug all the hoses going to it.


then 6 bolts to remove the radiator.


side by side.


then I used L brackets to mate the E fan to the radiator. then test fitted for clearances for the new coolant resivoir.



I had to use teflon spacers to keep the E fan motor from making contact with the radiator. 13cents a piece at the local hardware store.



then i mounted the resivoir also from champion. its stainless and comes with L brackets. I just had to drill some holes and set it up for my application.


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Here she is all mocked up.


and installed, overall pretty easy to do


filled it with the green stuff and burped the air out.





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I'm thinking tassles may melt on your new radiator,looks nice enough without,don't ya think?Nice job.
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Old 02-23-2010, 06:33 PM   #4
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This is a mod in my near future, is this radiator a single row like the original radiator? Also are you still running 2 electric fans? And last ? what fan is that as it seems to fit the radiator really good.

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3 row aluminum, Im down to one quality flexalite xtreme fan with a shroud.

so far its working really really well. Ive smelled coolant last time i ran it so i gotta recheck the hoses.

the champion radiator is made to fit the stock shroud and it has the nutserts already in the aluminum for a stock shroud/fan application. and no im not affiliated with champion in any way shape or form.

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I'm in Stanton, just down from Knotts.

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right on im pretty close to you. im at orangethorpe and euclid. Champion is in costa mesa off the 405 and harbor. they also carry a full shroud and E fan setup that look really good.. you need help with the install let me know.

http://championcooling.com/
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Cool when I get the time I will go see them. I may be asking more questions, thanks for the info.

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Old 02-24-2010, 04:57 PM   #9
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Nice radiator, thanks for the link.
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Very nice! It looks exactly like the BeCool radiator thats in my jeep... except yours was $300 less
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Very nice! It looks exactly like the BeCool radiator thats in my jeep... except yours was $300 less
Have you ever had any overheating problem in Arizona with the extreme heat ?

There are many people on this and other forums stating that a 3 row will cool less efficiently...doesn't make any sense to me though.
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heres what my understanding is.

Comparing two exact radiators one alum and one metal radiator. the all metal radiator will out perform the aluminum (not by much). BUT BUT BUT. almunium rads can be made with more fins per square inch AND run bigger tube sizes due to the aluminum. which is why aluminum rads are widely used in motorports on and offroad. you will get better cooling with the almunim due to its bigger compacity, flow, and fin count. please correct me if im wrong.
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NiCEEee but iam so hating of your antifreeze reservoir , i was only able to find one in my lifetime but yours look amazing.
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Wow, nice! Can't believe you got it for $200. My buddy was looking for an aluminum rad for his TJ. I'll have to show him yours.
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yea its been great so far. I did some temp readings with a thermal temp gun and... I drove on the freeway a few miles, then a few miles on the streets and when i parked it my rad temp was 72 degrees.
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How much did the reservoir run you from Champion?
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I got hooked up becase of a mix up, but i believe its 40 or 50 bucks. its all stainless and spilless. it has a xtra tube in the inside thats set extra high so it has an over flow spill if needed at the bottom. its better then it flying out the cap like my stocker did
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What part of Northwest Iowa? I grew up in Correctionville
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Thanks again Rawkon. got my two row today and instaled it. The rad was deffintly the problem. Running nice and cool now won't even get over 150 deg. without the thermostat. The stock one was glogged and leaking. i'll post a pic tomorrow.
Were your bolts from the factory set so you have to squeese in between the grill to get them out ? Mine were pain in the but had my 11 year old help his little hands fit in there much better. I fliped the thred brackets around when i put the champion unit in. Much easyer.
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What part of Northwest Iowa? I grew up in Correctionville
I'm sorry,I just seen your post.Cherokee my friend,not so fer away from correctionville at all!Be damned small world!You teaching the westies how to weld?
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my bolts were on the engine side. I didnt have to go inside the grill at all. glad the radiator worked for you. i would recomend putting in a tstat. your engine will run very rich and get pretty bad MPG. you take any pics???
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nice work.
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Sorry guys didn't mean to hijack.
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Just a note. Aluminum radiators are used in high performance cars because aluminum has a better thermal transfer than metal radiators which helps them cool more efficiently. If the aluminum is epoxy lined then you are better to go with any other type of radiator.
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I'm installing this radiator now and cant' figure out what the bottom two small outlet fittings are for. Should I just plug them?

Please Help trying to install now to be on trail in morning!!!!
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The two small plugs that match at the bottom?

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Would these be the inlet and outlet for the automatic trans? If that is the case and you have a manual trans, then you don't really have to do anything with them but they would make a really cool powersteering cooler.

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Yes they are for the automatic trans. If you have a manual just plug them or really you could keep them open too as you will never use them. Yes you could use it for an oil cooler, trans cooler or a power steering cooler.
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We'll put it in filled it full of water cranked it and let it get to temp and no fluid came out. So for all I can tell I have no worries.

By the way, anyone just run water in the summer time in the radiator? I did it just to see if it would pop a leak and ill put some radiator fluid in it tommorrow but I was thinking I could go wheeling all day with just H20 in it.
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Just bought one of these Ordered on Thursday. Arrived on Tuesday. Saved me $300 skins. Anxious to install it. How long should this take for a newby?

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