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Old 01-10-2012, 10:03 PM   #1
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Question custom tailgate with attatched rear window

ok, so i have been toying around with some ideas in my head for custom tailgate that has a window attatched to it that would swing out for the soft tops, similar to this one done for the aev iceland TJ but for a soft top. i have some ideas for framing it in, but was curious if this had been done yet.

ha would make it easier for my dane/mastiff mix to get in and out of the jeep ha.
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Old 01-10-2012, 11:28 PM   #2
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awesome idea! i think of it and kind of a soft upper half door, but for the tail gate. wouldn't know how to go about it, maybe weld a frame to the tailgate bar and somehow attach the window the the fame, and attach the tailgate bar/ frame to the tailgate itself.

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Old 01-11-2012, 07:30 AM   #4
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Yeah exacatly what I had envisioned in my mind. Is that your jeep? Any more pics of that? I mean that is to the T what I had planned in my head. Awesome
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I wonder if you could use a thicker lexan for the top frame just maybe for it to blend better. I think I'm gonna gather some parts for this on Friday and give it a whirl. Anybody else? Anything?
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Scratch the Lexan idea a, you'll prob off to apply some silicone to sandwich vin plastic and frame
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Old 01-11-2012, 11:23 AM   #7
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My dane is too lazy to "jump" into my JKU, he puts his front paws up and waits for me to help lift him! haha! How big is your dane / mastiff mix, Im thinking tall like a Dane but stocky like a mastiff, must be huge!!!
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Ha year my dog does pretty much the same thing. She's about 120-130 pounds. Looks like a perfect blend of the 2. Dane jowles, mastiff head, stockier dane build. I'll try to get some pics of her. You could do like wise.
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Yeah exacatly what I had envisioned in my mind. Is that your jeep? Any more pics of that? I mean that is to the T what I had planned in my head. Awesome
Yes it is my Jeep. Here's a photo of the parts off the Jeep:



There are two main parts - a "door surround" which attaches to the tub, and the soft door upper.

The upper mounts to the tailgate with four thumbscrews so it comes off in seconds; I welded four nuts into the inner skin of the tailgate, but if a welder isn't available then rivnuts could be used. The upper makes use of the factory soft rear window and the factory tailgate bar. The factory window is cut along the door gap line, and it's secured to the surround and to the door upper using retainer strips held on by screws. The tailgate bar gets cut into three pieces - one part mounts to the upper and the other two are attached to the bottom of the canvas on the surround. I've also included a storage net in the mounting bars for the upper.

The surround has pins on the bottom of each side that slip into holes in the top of the tub, and quick-release disconnects from Bestop attach the surround to the rear bar of the soft top. To remove the surround, the rear panel is unzipped from the soft top, the quick-disconnects are disconnected from the soft top bar, and the surround is lifted off the tub, the pins on the bottom just slide out of the holes in the tub.

It seals great, and makes a huge difference in the usability/accessability of the cargo area of the Jeep.

BTW the soft upper was sort-of a side project related to the hard upper barn door of my Safari Cab:

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You're the freakin man. What did you use for weather stripping? And is that constructed out of steel or aluminium? You do great work man.
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You're the freakin man. What did you use for weather stripping? And is that constructed out of steel or aluminium? You do great work man.
Thanks. Most of it is steel because I don't have any experience welding aluminum, but there's no reason it couldn't all be aluminum. The window retainer strips are aluminum. If I remember correctly, I used 1/4 x 5/8 EPDM foam weatherstrip. It seals great, I've had no problems with leaking.
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Which piece is the retainer strip? The factory bar for the tailgate? Some illustration of assembly would be sweet but I'm sure I can figure it out
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Oh and what computer program do you use to do your renderings?
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Oh and what computer program do you use to do your renderings?
Microsoft Visio 2003
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Talking

so i was out to day at my local menards tryin to gather up materials for this, and couple questions:

1. did you just use flat stock steel for the surround and frame?

2. where did you score the epdm weather strip? menards had white, kinda want black.

3. do you have any more pictures of the inside of the jeep so i can get an idea of how to secure everything? i think i got it from you last post but kinda hard to follow.

gonna try to tear into it tomorrow or the next day.

thanks a million!
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I think I found the weatherstrip a a local hardware store, but I often buy weatherstrip at McMasterCarr (McMaster-Carr).

Good luck with your project.

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