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Old 06-18-2011, 02:30 PM   #31
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Mayb I can get a nice mod to change my title then haha. But it is for sure a 9"? Is the 9" a full float axle which means no c-clips?
Change the title? I don't know what you're talking about.


The 9" is not a full floating axle. There is a bearing right behind the backing plate so the axle shaft supports the weight of the vehicle. On a full floating axle the axle shaft does not support the weight of the vehicle. Yes, there are no c-clips but that does not make it a full floating axle.

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So standard 8.8 gears can b used in a hp 9" setup? Where did you get the pricing from tho? I glanced around last night and I think the currie 3rd was like 460 something
The high pinion setup that Currie makes(I've been told) utilizes the 8.8 ring gear which I just realized are reverse cut as well. I do not know about the other high pinion setups except the Truhi9 which they make their own custom gears.

I'm going to have to do a bit of digging to figure out just exactly what type of gear the Currie setup uses.

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Change the title? I don't know what you're talking about.

The 9" is not a full floating axle. There is a bearing right behind the backing plate so the axle shaft supports the weight of the vehicle. On a full floating axle the axle shaft does not support the weight of the vehicle. Yes, there are no c-clips but that does not make it a full floating axle.
Haha, thanks man. So it's a semi float axle then? How do I get the shafts out to pull the 3rd member? Never been in to an axle that much
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The high pinion setup that Currie makes(I've been told) utilizes the 8.8 ring gear which I just realized are reverse cut as well. I do not know about the other high pinion setups except the Truhi9 which they make their own custom gears.

I'm going to have to do a bit of digging to figure out just exactly what type of gear the Currie setup uses.
Yes, now I'm curious as to what gears are ran in the standard 8.8 if they bolt in to a hp 9"
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Haha, thanks man. So it's a semi float axle then? How do I get the shafts out to pull the 3rd member? Never been in to an axle that much
Anytime. Yes, it is a semi-floating axle.
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Yes, now I'm curious as to what gears are ran in the standard 8.8 if they bolt in to a hp 9"
What I'm thinking is that Currie is making the reverse cut gears too because I can't find anything on their website that says they use 8.8 gears. Still looking though.

If you found one for $460 you better snag it up because on the Currie website a complete setup goes for $1300.
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Anytime. Yes, it is a semi-floating axle.

What I'm thinking is that Currie is making the reverse cut gears too because I can't find anything on their website that says they use 8.8 gears. Still looking though.

If you found one for $460 you better snag it up because on the Currie website a complete setup goes for $1300.
http://www.currieenterprises.com/ces...e.aspx?id=1033

This is a good deal?
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Figured it out. The Currie high pinion 3rd member uses 8.8 gears but it is from the front axle of 98 and up Ford trucks because front axles use reverse cut gears. So....the gears are standard Ford parts.
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Lemme get back with you on this because that is just a bare housing and I don't know which parts off the stock 3rd member will fit in that housing. I'm going to try and get a hold of Currie and find out because if that is all that is needed I will be getting one of those very soon. I won't get an answer till probably Monday or Tuesday because they aren't open on weekends. I'm sending them an email now.


This is what I was looking at.

Currie Enterprises Currie High Pinion

At the top of the center section of the page there is a price calculator. That is what I used.
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Standard jeeps up to 1995 used a 1310 little baby joint...the 95's had a 1330. Conversion joints are also called step joints...they have one size on one cross and a different on the other cross...they are junk, stay away from them. They are twice as much money and break twice as fast.
What Jeeps came with a true 1330 u-joint? The Rubicon uses 1310/1330 conversion u-joints but there are no Wranglers that ever came with a true 1330 from the factory. All non-Rubicon Wrangler TJs (and Wrangler YJs) use 1310 u-joints on the driveshafts.
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Figured it out. The Currie high pinion 3rd member uses 8.8 gears but it is from the front axle of 98 and up Ford trucks because front axles use reverse cut gears. So....the gears are standard Ford parts.
Those were ifs tho, right? Still the same gears?
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Lemme get back with you on this because that is just a bare housing and I don't know which parts off the stock 3rd member will fit in that housing. I'm going to try and get a hold of Currie and find out because if that is all that is needed I will be getting one of those very soon. I won't get an answer till probably Monday or Tuesday because they aren't open on weekends. I'm sending them an email now.

This is what I was looking at.

Currie Enterprises Currie High Pinion

At the top of the center section of the page there is a price calculator. That is what I used.
Yea, that would b really cool. Let me know what you find out. I did the 31sp and Detroit and it came out to 1500$!!!! I almost crapped!
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I was wondering what's the cheapest bracket kit you can get and what's the best type of welder to use to put them on?
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Are you considering welding the brackets on yourself? Do you have welding experience and are up to it? A 220v 180 amp MIG at a minimum or a good stick/arc welder is going to be required, no small 110v MIG 130-140 amp welder is up to the job.
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Those were ifs tho, right? Still the same gears?
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I was wondering what's the cheapest bracket kit you can get and what's the best type of welder to use to put them on?
The one I was looking at is $199 at Mad 4 Wheel Drive.
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The one I was looking at is $199 at Mad 4 Wheel Drive.
that's the cheapest bracket kit?
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that's the cheapest bracket kit?
$200 for a complete set of brackets is not a bad price at all. Complete axle bracket kits are higher at M.O.R.E. and Rubicon Express.
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$200 for a complete set of brackets is not a bad price at all. Complete axle bracket kits are higher at M.O.R.E. and Rubicon Express.
I figured it's just a couple pieces of stamped steel that it wouldn't b too much
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The Teraflex axle bracket kit is $530 so ya the $199 kit isn't a bad price.
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The Teraflex axle bracket kit is $530 so ya the $199 kit isn't a bad price.
Wow, that is crazy
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Anyone know how to remove the 3rd member? I don't see how to remove the axle shafts with out getting to the diff and I can't get to the diff with out the axle shafts removed
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You have to pull the drums and remove the 4 bolts that are behind the wheel studs.
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You have to pull the drums and remove the 4 bolts that are behind the wheel studs.
Oh, then you can just put a slide hammer on them? Now on one rear end I've done I had to un screw a little bolt and take a cross pin out along with the plate on the out side of the tubes. Is that true for the 9" as well?
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Oh, then you can just put a slide hammer on them? Now on one rear end I've done I had to un screw a little bolt and take a cross pin out along with the plate on the out side of the tubes. Is that true for the 9" as well?
You shouldn't need a slide hammer. Just a small pry bar or a large screwdriver to break them loose and then they just slide out. Then you can remove the 3rd member. You will want a drip pan underneath because the gear oil will fall out when you pull the shafts unless you drained it first.
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What Jeeps came with a true 1330 u-joint? The Rubicon uses 1310/1330 conversion u-joints but there are no Wranglers that ever came with a true 1330 from the factory. All non-Rubicon Wrangler TJs (and Wrangler YJs) use 1310 u-joints on the driveshafts.
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You shouldn't need a slide hammer. Just a small pry bar or a large screwdriver to break them loose and then they just slide out. Then you can remove the 3rd member. You will want a drip pan underneath because the gear oil will fall out when you pull the shafts unless you drained it first.
Yea, I thought the cross pin had to come out. I'll give it a shot tonight
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You shouldn't need a slide hammer. Just a small pry bar or a large screwdriver to break them loose .
In theory, yes. But in reality I have about wore out a slide hammer on some, as ones that have been in for awhile get rusted in and don't want to come out very easily.

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In theory, yes. But in reality I have about wore out a slide hammer on some, as ones that have been in for awhile get rusted in and don't want to come out very easily.

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Guess I got lucky then. I just used a 2ft pry bar and popped em loose.
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In theory, yes. But in reality I have about wore out a slide hammer on some, as ones that have been in for awhile get rusted in and don't want to come out very easily.

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I hope mine arnt stuck
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What gear ratios were available in the 9"? What's common?
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What gear ratios were available in the 9"? What's common?
Were available or are available? You can get just about every gear ratio imaginable for the 9".

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