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Old 03-22-2009, 11:27 PM   #1
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I suck at welding

But I am getting real good at grinding.

First I make a big puddle of metal on top of the pieces I am trying to join, then I burn a hole through them. Eventually I get some good penetration.

I cut my stock bumper down to a stubby and now I am welding plates onto the ends so it is not a super critical part to learn on.

Gonna take a lot of practice.

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But I am getting real good at grinding.

First I make a big puddle of metal on top of the pieces I am trying to join, then I burn a hole through them. Eventually I get some good penetration.

I cut my stock bumper down to a stubby and now I am welding plates onto the ends so it is not a super critical part to learn on.

Gonna take a lot of practice.
Ah, the good old days.

I remember back when my welder was a hot drill. Just take your time and you'll do fine. The biggest thing is to make sure everything is super clean and you have a good ground. Oh, and make sure your welder is consistent when it comes to heat. You'll do fine!

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i suck at welding too !
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i suck at welding too !
That's OK I've been told that as well and I weld and fabricate structural steel for a living

P.S. those cheap underpowered and untunable 110v mig welders don't help a person look good
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What welding process are you using? mig, tig, arc?
Assuming its mig, the best thing to do would be to take a scrap piece of metal around the same guage or thickness of what your going to be welding and get your wire speed and your voltage set properly. If the weld looks like a worm laying on top of the metal you mostly likely need to turn your voltage up and your wire speed down. If you have holes or Porosity in your weld, make sure your shielding gas is set properly and there are no fans or breezes blowing your gas away.
And one other thing, some Mig welders just plain suck, some can be very tricky to get set properly and when you do get them set the welds still wont look perfect.
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Old 03-23-2009, 01:41 PM   #6
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Mig - Lincoln 135P

Looks like a big part of my problem was poor/weak ground connection. If it were easy every one would do it. I can't wait until I finish this first project and someone asks me where I got my bumper.
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Old 03-23-2009, 02:07 PM   #7
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mig is by far the easiest to learn on..

i started out arc welding.. it was alright.. i LOVED tig welding.. thats what im good at =p but im not great or anything.. tig i just think is easier to control.. never really have a problem with burning through what im welding either.. and seem to get the best penetration
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Mig - Lincoln 135P

Looks like a big part of my problem was poor/weak ground connection. If it were easy every one would do it. I can't wait until I finish this first project and someone asks me where I got my bumper.
you runnin a shield gas or flux cored wire only?

I have experience with this lil machine a buddy owns and without shield gas I have yet to make any welds with it I'm satisfied with. This particular welder is OK for the starter hobbyist but I wouldn't want to try to build a rig with one.
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Old 03-23-2009, 09:42 PM   #9
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I am running the standard Argon/CO2 mix shielding gas. Right now my learning curve is very steep. I did much better today than yesterday. I have learned the importance of FRESH SHINY metal on the two parts you intend to make one and on the ground clamp.

BIG difference.

So far I am please with my work and the results.
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ahha and your grinder is thanking you!!!!! But really good job on getting out there and trying to get it better. I need to weld again but i may make more of a mess until I get back into it!
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just remember, practice makes perfect. (especially in welding)
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Old 03-26-2009, 08:44 PM   #12
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Easiest way to get a decent weld with mig, is to run little circles in the puddle.
You point the wire slightly in the direction of travel. (lean the gas cup away from this direction) As you go forward, you penetrate the base metal, picking molton metal up in the arc. As you come around the circle, you deposit metal just behind where you were.(opposite side of circle)
If travel is right to left, then a clockwise rotation is used. Right to left, counter-clockwise rotation.

If you get this going right, the arc should sound like bacon frying in a pan. The weld bead, should look like a roll of dimes laid over.
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Weld...grind...weld...repeat. The only way to become a proficient welder is practice, practice, practice. Look for a local vocational school that offers adult classes at night...it's worth every penny. After that, cruise your local scrap yard on Saturdays and bring home as much tube, angle, and flat stock as you can. Build yourself a workbench or some shelves or rack for your firewood. Practice until you get UV burn on your arms and neck...practice until you stop flinching when stray spatter lands in your shirt...practice until you can flip down your mask without moving your hands or your head. Above all...ignore anything you've seen from those retards on American Chopper...don't use your eyelids as a weld mask...be smart...be safe...and you'll be laying down a sweet roll of nickels in no time...a weld so fine you won't even consider grinding it. ( :
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Old 03-27-2009, 07:30 AM   #14
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Thank you guys. Great advise.
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Old 04-06-2009, 08:38 PM   #15
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mig is by far the easiest to learn on..

i started out arc welding.. it was alright.. i LOVED tig welding.. thats what im good at =p but im not great or anything.. tig i just think is easier to control.. never really have a problem with burning through what im welding either.. and seem to get the best penetration
woo hoo +1 on the tig man! clean and smooth! nothing like a TIG. i learned on a stick some jumper cables and some batteries. ah. trail fixes.
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Old 10-28-2009, 06:12 AM   #17
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Whats the bumper look like man pictures man... pictures
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If travel is right to left, then a clockwise rotation is used. Right to left, counter-clockwise rotation.
This is a trick huh
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eventually it will look kinda like this. practice practice practice. a tuned welder makes a huge difference
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Old 10-29-2009, 09:49 PM   #20
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Drag the stick,push the gun.That's the first thing I was taught bout 20 yrs ago.Watch for about 1/4 inch of molt behind gun stay that pace,and learn to set welder from there.Everyone welds at a diff pace,Thats the biggest part of welding,heat and wire speed will come to you,and remember to practice on clean material.The molt is the little v that trails your weld.Here we have what we call tongue lickers.If your weld is good,you can drag your tongue on it and all you feel is heat,no pigeon sheet.Thats from boys been welding since Jesus was learning how to bait hooks.
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Old 11-22-2009, 06:31 PM   #21
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I'm good at welding, my problem is I have a 110 buzz box with .030 flux core wire in it
I'm working on mu own trailer hitch and the steel I have for it was galvanized like 70 years ago and my welder won't even heat up the galvanization up enough to burn it off LOL

Oh I'm another one that's really good at grinding
A grinder is a welders best friend
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I wanted to say thank you to u guys for giving me sum hints on better welding. ive been practicing with an old timeclock lookin lincoln. i got pretty decent with it other than every time id get a good bead going my breaker would trip.
now i have started messing with a mig it splatters a lot more.

(I used the stick welder to make a frnt bumper and it hasnt came off yet. my welds sure dont look like nickles ill tell you that.)
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That's OK I've been told that as well and I weld and fabricate structural steel for a living

P.S. those cheap underpowered and untunable 110v mig welders don't help a person look good

good ol buz box lol

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