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Old 01-11-2012, 10:11 PM   #1
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new welder, how does this weld look?

hey guys/gals, got me a new welder. Its just a small flux core welder (no gas)
just wanted to see what you guys thought of my welds.
its a job smart 125 using .035 wire on about 2.75 for speed
no welds ground, just cleaned up the spatter...



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Old 01-11-2012, 10:14 PM   #2
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i was welding with the speed up higher and just didn't like it. so i turned down the speed and tried to get it hotter by welding a little slower.

i think my biggest problem is hand control consistency

it sticks though, should be fine to mount a seat to once i drill a hole in it.

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Old 01-11-2012, 10:22 PM   #3
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Looks pretty good ...good penetration
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Old 01-11-2012, 10:23 PM   #4
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I agree looks pretty good to me. I wish I had one of those. Some day. I'll stick with the stick for now. Haha get it.
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Old 01-11-2012, 10:31 PM   #5
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I agree looks pretty good to me. I wish I had one of those. Some day. I'll stick with the stick for now. Haha get it.
the welder was only 125 bucks at my local tractor supply co. you can't beat that price.

its been fun working with this welder so far. i won't complain too much.
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Old 01-11-2012, 11:16 PM   #6
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the welder was only 125 bucks at my local tractor supply co. you can't beat that price.

its been fun working with this welder so far. i won't complain too much.
Yeah for that I might have to grab one. I'll have to check in with you this spring and see how you like it. I'm still perfecting my welds with 7018 on a little lincoln 225 ac. It's fun though and I like being able to build stuff.
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Id really like to learn to weld. It seriously increases the stuff I could do!.
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Good start, but looks a little cold to me, just my .02
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And you'd like it better with .030 or .025
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And you'd like it better with .030 or .025
Why is that? I am not a great welder, but I am learning. I prefer the .035 when welding stuff other than thin sheet metal.
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Yeah the .035 will lay down alot of weld but in the subject of small welders, the .030 will get "hotter" and allow more time to penetrate better before the groove is full of weld
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*edit* previous post is just in my experiences
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Old 01-12-2012, 08:26 PM   #13
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I weld for a living and yes a smaller welder will do much better with smaller wire, i run .030 on my flux cored welder, and to golden sahara00 if you run a root pass with 6010 and then cap it with 7018 its alot easier, and if you can get it down with 3/32 you can use any size cuz 3/32 rod quivers like a teenage boy in a nudy bar lol i.e. it will teach you better control.
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*edit* previous post is just in my experiences
Your experience is what makes you valuable. That is why I asked. I don't have much experience and always look for another point of vue.
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well, i will try the .030 at the next spool of wire... i will try to update when i get there...
thanks for the advice.
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No problem that's what forms are for and don't worry even those of us that weld all time always make pretty welds
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i also sometimes have to weld for work, when people ask me if the weld looks good i ask them if they would stake their life on that weld. usually they go back and grind it out and try it again.
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practice practice practice I got some real nice pieces of art I was welding every thing I could find together after I got my welder now im welding every bodys stuff together and gettin paid !!
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I weld for a living and yes a smaller welder will do much better with smaller wire, i run .030 on my flux cored welder, and to golden sahara00 if you run a root pass with 6010 and then cap it with 7018 its alot easier, and if you can get it down with 3/32 you can use any size cuz 3/32 rod quivers like a teenage boy in a nudy bar lol i.e. it will teach you better control.

I welded up my stinger I am running now, I learned with 6010 but I did all my passes with 7018 when I did the stinger. I was told to just run it as long as I beveled everything pretty well. I was burning through the 3/16 plate on the brackets using the 6010 because I guess it was penetrating too much. But it seems pretty solid. I'm gona finish adding a few pieces when spring rolls around. I still have plenty to learn though lol. I had some issue with the bracket being 4 inches wide on top and 3 on the bottom, so there is kinda of a gap looking thing at the bottom. I am gona run a bottom plate and fill that in, along with brace the stinger more in the spring. Heres to link if you want to tell my how bad my welds are
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Yeah 6010 doesn't need as much heat. Welding isn't as much about how it looks as much as it is about good penetration and filling the weld flush or capped also 7018 lays down better when it's within 4 hours of being pulled out of a rod oven
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yeah, having a rod oven would be nice. I wasn't on the best machine either, but I work with what I got for now. Yeah, even turning down the heat on the 6010, I was burning through it, if I was going lower I wasn't running a good bead. and getting alot of splatter/pits. I ran three passes on the bracketry and 4 or 5 on the tube section. The ground everything pretty much flush. The brackets turned out nice, but welding the round tube was hard, because I hadn't done it before and didnt have any to practice on. haha.
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I just bought a welder too and that looks no worse than mine
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Yeah, even turning down the heat on the 6010, I was burning through it,
You can't weld 6010 like you would weld 6013, you have to burn it in and pull out to let it cool, then repeat.

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Exactly 6010 has to be "stepped" and I know what you mean on the welding the pipe, it's different but I'm in the union pipe trades and im used to it now
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As a noob to welding don't worry about looks, hand control comes with hood time. Get one of those miller guides for your heat and speed settings, you'll develop your own settings on for your specific machine but it helps to have a start. Do a few bead plates 12"x12" both sides. Then do butt, lap, and fillet welds cut em open and you'll know if there good or not.
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As a noob to welding don't worry about looks, hand control comes with hood time. Get one of those miller guides for your heat and speed settings, you'll develop your own settings on for your specific machine but it helps to have a start. Do a few bead plates 12"x12" both sides. Then do butt, lap, and fillet welds cut em open and you'll know if there good or not.
Yeah I practiced for a while before doing the bumper haha. I have the guide but I just practiced different settings and rod sizes and all that to get a hang of what works best off of that. I run a Lincoln 225 ac so it's not the best but does the job.

Haha I figure once I go at it for a few more years I'll seem like cake. Anything you do you gota learn first.
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Yup I had a really good teacher, had me do bead plates untill I was seeing that stuff in my sleep lol.
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Yup I had a really good teacher, had me do bead plates untill I was seeing that stuff in my sleep lol.
Nice. I had to teach myself. Talk to alot of people about it but didnt get any hands on teaching. gota help yourself sometimes haha.
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Well I've got a million questions and I might as well ask them here instead of starting another thread.

When welding thinner metal (14 to 18 gauge] do you go in a straight line or do a pattern? I seem to get burn through half the time and some times it looks great. Not sure how I'm deviating

I seem to be getting the glob of metal on my wire alot of the time and keep having to cut it off. Is this normal or how can I avoid it. I'm mig welding btw with. 035 wire and 75 25 gas.

Any tips would be helpful I'm never one to turn down free knowledge!
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Well I've got a million questions and I might as well ask them here instead of starting another thread.

When welding thinner metal (14 to 18 gauge] do you go in a straight line or do a pattern? I seem to get burn through half the time and some times it looks great. Not sure how I'm deviating

I seem to be getting the glob of metal on my wire alot of the time and keep having to cut it off. Is this normal or how can I avoid it. I'm mig welding btw with. 035 wire and 75 25 gas.

Any tips would be helpful I'm never one to turn down free knowledge!
If I had to guess I would say your running too hot but if your running the same an getting some good some bad. Maybe line speed changed? Or maybe your speed changed and your actually going too slow, or your going the right speed ten but heat still to high. Haha. But know nothing of mig welding so

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