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Old 08-16-2012, 02:49 AM   #31
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BTW, why dont you like the poly motor mounts?

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Old 08-16-2012, 11:40 AM   #32
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BTW, why dont you like the poly motor mounts?
poly bushings transmit noise/vibration pretty bad.
not a deal breaker on a trail beater, but still annoying.
It would have been worth it to spend the $30 difference on rubber mounts.
I've done this before too, not sure why I did it again.

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Old 08-18-2012, 10:46 PM   #33
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nice build!!!
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Old 08-20-2012, 10:56 AM   #34
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Old 10-06-2012, 08:45 PM   #35
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Looks good man- cant wait to see the progression
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Old 10-06-2012, 08:52 PM   #36
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My neighbors Jeep is called Pond Scum too. There's a link to his build thread in THIS THREAD.
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Old 10-14-2012, 09:53 PM   #37
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Cool build dude. I feel like I will be in this position in a few months, doing major axle fab for the first time. nice work on the cage and stuff.
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Old 10-26-2012, 09:48 AM   #38
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Welp.
I made a pretty good size excel sheet on the cost of what these 2 axles need.
At the same time, I parted out my old XJ. Sold off a bunch of stuff, but still have the 4.10 hp30 and 8.25. I had done a bunch of new brake hardware, boxed all the CA mounts, and a few other random things on the hp30.
I'm bailing on the 60s. For now. I moved them up to my other shed, and just tucked them away. There's a lot of other work that should go into this thing before I try to just slide tons under it. I want to build a complete package. I can't see squeezing a hp60 under the 4 banger, when I know the 4 is on borrowed time.
So I'm following the herd and throwing a 4.10 8.8 in the back.
I picked up a LS 4.10 8.8 from a buddy for $80, and just ordered the artec TJ swap truss.
Gonna keep it 5 link for now. Short term axle work, DS and SYE will hurt the wallet enough. Plan is to 4 link eventually, but when I really get into the frame side work, I'll use that time to do some gas tank clearancing, coil bucket relocation, shock towers and possibly sway bar relocation. So that's down the line sometime. It won't be too hard to chop off the axle uppers and the truss should make it fairly easy to convert to triangulation.
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Old 10-31-2012, 11:04 AM   #39
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Nice build. Where are those pictures from? Looks like some cool wheeling.
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Old 11-02-2012, 05:21 PM   #40
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anthracite adventure offroad area - near shamokin PA

lame bolt on update:

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Old 11-02-2012, 06:05 PM   #41
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Respectably decision on the axles. how is AA for wheeling?
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Respectably decision on the axles. how is AA for wheeling?
There's always been endless green trails up there, and it backs up to Reading Anthracite Company property. You could ride greens/blues & logging roads all day and never see the same spot twice. If you're familiar with whaleback - that's AAOA now...
I missed the clubs last 'guided tour' up there, they hit the east side of the property where I guess there's more black trails and stuff like rock creek at rausch.
a guy on our local board said BMJA has a tour the 10th, I dunno if you know any of those guys, I've never wheeled with them, and can't make it next weekend.
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There's always been endless green trails up there, and it backs up to Reading Anthracite Company property. You could ride greens/blues & logging roads all day and never see the same spot twice. If you're familiar with whaleback - that's AAOA now...
I missed the clubs last 'guided tour' up there, they hit the east side of the property where I guess there's more black trails and stuff like rock creek at rausch.
a guy on our local board said BMJA has a tour the 10th, I dunno if you know any of those guys, I've never wheeled with them, and can't make it next weekend.
No I'm not really familiar, just know what I have read. Rock run and doe valley are my local spots over here. Just curious about other places to mix it up.
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Old 11-04-2012, 03:44 PM   #44
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got the brackets cut off and ground down nice & smooth.
waiting on parts now.

anyone flip the brake backing plates L to R (moving the calipers to the front), to get more room for outboarding shocks?

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Old 11-10-2012, 07:30 AM   #45
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Artec truss came in.



Mocked it up, and tacked it together.

Feels like I did this once in this build thread already. I'm already further on this rear than I was on the 60, so no complaining.



I wanted to pull the shafts, to switch to shorter TJ wheel studs, in case I need to run spacers.
Also, gonna do seals, and switch the backing plates left to right.
That's when the party started:



This is the lever that connects the e-brake cable to the shoes, through the backing plate.
A pair of these from Ford is $105. I almost shot pancake out my nose.
I can clean up this one, but I gotta source the other side still.



Got a good bit of time to work on it today, and it looks like I'll be chasing stupid little parts down instead of welding. But we'll see what I can get done.

Oh, and this showed up too:

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Old 11-19-2012, 07:49 PM   #48
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Can a mod change the title to just "Pond Scum"

I started building the rear UCAs.



also got a CV shaft.



But what a friend gave me as a 1310 yoke, seems to be a 1330 yoke, so still need to get one of those.
2 steps forward 1 step back.
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Old 11-22-2012, 08:37 AM   #49
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coil bucket supports, LCA mounts, shock brackets welded on. Done welding brackets on the 8.8
built the other UCA - 1.5" square tube, currie weld on ends & bungs, had the male JJs already used from a friend.
painted everything
filled the diff & threw the new riddler on.
got the flange mounted on the driveshaft with a conversion joint
Stopped by a buddy's house and picked up the hp30 out of my cherokee (sold him the motor, the partout is about done)
Converting 1 end of my iron rock offroad LCAs to Johnny Joints, but the one is frozen like a mofo.
Long day.





still gotta do the SYE, then I can switch these out.





happy thanksgiving you turkies. :cheers:
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Old 11-25-2012, 05:03 PM   #51
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To do:
tighten LCA bolts
intall e-brake cables
bleed brakes
connect vent tube
tighten control arm jam nuts
install rear driveshaft
get front coils...

Pretty sure the pinion angle is wrong.
I just guessed at the arm lengths, made the lowers match stock, made the uppers a little longer than stock. Probably should shorten the uppers I guess. It is a mystery.







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Old 11-25-2012, 05:22 PM   #52
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Jeep looks good, my jeeps in the same position as yours in the second pic. I'm doing the same swap
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Old 11-26-2012, 04:33 PM   #53
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thought I was slick trading for a CV shaft about a month ago.
it's about 3" too short.
dialed the uppers in about an inch and a half.
can't really go any further adjusting it until I have a damn driveshaft that fits.
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thought I was slick trading for a CV shaft about a month ago.
it's about 3" too short.
dialed the uppers in about an inch and a half.
can't really go any further adjusting it until I have a damn driveshaft that fits.
Was the DS from a Sami? That's a huge difference
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Was the DS from a Sami? That's a huge difference
No clue what it was from.
I got a Cherokee front that I cut down though, last night.
Probably won't balance, but hopefully it'll work for mock up then as a trail spare.
Used a M18 drill, a hand file, a sawzall blade, and a cutoff wheel... gotta burn it together tonight.

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Old 12-02-2012, 12:57 PM   #56
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First test drive with the new rear.
Must have the pinion angle close, had it to 60mph with no new crazy vibes (that could be heard over the symphony of other vibes).
My attempt at spin balancing the driveshaft with a battery drill must have come close too...

The only issue I saw was that at full droop on the passenger side, the e-brake cable is the limiting strap. So, might need the fancy blaine brackets after all.
It's getting a lot better axle movement though. Maybe just because of the lack of sway bar but whatever.

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Old 12-02-2012, 05:04 PM   #58
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ive been following this thread and its awesome. nice build!
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Old 12-16-2012, 05:57 PM   #59
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Thanks guys.
I put wizard brackets on, now the e-brake works great.



And started on the hp30.
I had welded plates on the LCA mounts, but they got bashed up on my cherokee. So I cut the whole bracket off and replaced them.

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Old 12-22-2012, 05:55 PM   #60
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Gettin flack on jeepforum for not buying a lift kit.
I know it won't work well like this, but I couldn't wait to put them on.

315 / 70 r17 (34.5 x 12.5 x 17) All Terrains.
17x9 alloys.
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