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Old 08-06-2013, 09:44 PM   #61
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Another large package showed up today and here is what we've got to show off...Thank you Rockridge4WD for your help and support!!

For the rear axle we are are running a 5.43 Yukon Ring and Pinion set, USA Standard Master Install Kit, and a 31 spline spool...



For the front axle we are running a 5.38 USA Standard Ring and Pinion set, USA Standard Master Install Kit, Yukon Drive Flanges, and a Yukon Grizzly Locker!!



I've shown you all the parts so I guess it is time to get some actual work done on the rig
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This weekend part of the Poor Boys made the trip to visit our new friends with Petty Cash Racing. We spent quite a few hours hanging out with them and looking over their rig. Not only did they let us check out the race car, they answered many questions and gave some good insight and tips on building.


After meeting up with Petty Cash, we were feeling pretty inspired and motivated to start some work when we got home. We decided to start installing the new gears and lockers. Here is Brian getting the D44 all ready for a set of 5.38 gears and a Yukon Grizzly locker!


Sean disassembling the 9" so it can get some fresh new 5.43s and a spool locker


Sean scrubbing away at the 9". These junkyard axles were filthy and caked with dirt and gear oil. It is still sitting in a bucket "degreasing."


Sean again...putting the ring gear on the Yukon Grizzly locker for the HP44.


We didn't get terribly far because it got pretty late and we were lacking a few tools that were necessary. The plan is to get the gears finished up throughout the week, and then actually start getting everything fabbed up and slid under the jeep. We hope to have this bad boy rolling by the end of next weekend.
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No pictures today, but last night we pretty much finished regearing the front HP44 with the 5.38 gears and Yukon Grizzly locker. Tonight will hopefully be the completion or near completion of the rear 9" 5.43 gears and spool locker. This will keep us on track to get the axles set up under the jeep this weekend.



Also, by the end of the week we should hopefully have our Yukon chromoly shafts and superjoints here So, it shouldnt be long before the axles are all buttoned up!
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Finally feels like we are making a little progress
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you have any small t-shirts? one for the old lady? see if i can't help you out with a few more pennies!
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I will have to double check, but I think we are out of smalls. I think we have one medium and like two larges left.
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Awesome man, looks good. Time to get it moving.

So what are the requirements/restrictions and plans for the rest of the build suspension etc wise?

You guys are pretty much living the dream right now this looks so much fun. We are definitely do one of these down the road, I've been talking to the guys about it.
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Awesome man, looks good. Time to get it moving.

So what are the requirements/restrictions and plans for the rest of the build suspension etc wise?

You guys are pretty much living the dream right now this looks so much fun. We are definitely do one of these down the road, I've been talking to the guys about it.
Thanks bud!

For our class, in a nutshell, suspension has to retain stock-like characteristics. So this means we have to keep a rear leaf sprung suspension, and a front coil suspension. We can run up to a 2.625" bodied shock, with no more than 14" of travel. No coilovers, no bypasses, reservoirs are ok. Air bumps are not allowed, limit straps are ok.

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So 35s and minor fender clearancing, okay. Wheelbase can only be stretched 3 inches max. stock suspension, does that mean height at well? I'm reading but there is a lot

I assume you will be going for as much travel as you can by modifying the shocks?
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So 35s and minor fender clearancing, okay. Wheelbase can only be stretched 3 inches max. stock suspension, does that mean height at well? I'm reading but there is a lot

I assume you will be going for as much travel as you can by modifying the shocks?
35s for our class...yes.

No excessive trimming of the fenders. In other words, at full bump you can have no more than 2" of clearance between the tire and the fender. I believe that also means in flexing situations. With a wider axle, your fender clearance is going to matter more during flex than at full bump.

I do not believe there is a height limitation on suspension as long as you do not have more than 14" of travel.

We will do as much as we can, unfortunately we can not go up through the body with our shocks, so we are pretty much limited to what we can fit under the jeep.
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Yeah I saw those sections, I was just making sure I was in the right spot. Stock class right. That's the way I interpreted it. No more than 2 inches at full bump/flex. Which you wouldn't need more than that anyways. Yeah, that does limit you a bit. I mean if you have a ton of money for something like the MC 6paks it wouldn't be an issue. But standard shocks that does get tough and 14 inches is a ton anyways. How much lift do you plan on running.
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Yeah I saw those sections, I was just making sure I was in the right spot. Stock class right. That's the way I interpreted it. No more than 2 inches at full bump/flex. Which you wouldn't need more than that anyways. Yeah, that does limit you a bit. I mean if you have a ton of money for something like the MC 6paks it wouldn't be an issue. But standard shocks that does get tough and 14 inches is a ton anyways. How much lift do you plan on running.
Yes, stock class. A lot of the other rules also apply to us, but the stock section is specific to our rigs.

The thing with the 6paks I would be curious about though, would be shock body...those things look massive and I dont know if they would consider the WHOLE body in the measurement, or if each individual strut. Also, I am not sure how they would hold up to the stress...as far as shock fade.

14" is a lot...the Petty Cash guys were running something like 13" in the front and 12" in the rear...or vice versa. So it would take some work to get 14" out of the cherokee.

The kit we are building off of is the rough country 6.5" long arm kit. We will run different shocks, and also beef up the arms probably. At some point we will probably replace the joints too...but no need to do that stuff during the testing phase...it would be nice to see how the components hold up. That much more experience and insight.
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Of course Good point about that. you are allowed to run 2 shocks per wheel/tire combo minus the spare. But the 6 pack is more than just 2... Although You could probably fab something up to run 2 shocks in unison. I wonder if anyone has ever welded 2 shock bodies together side by side, one flipped.

I don't think you can even get 14 in most wranglers. I think I'm limited to around 12 front and 10 rear from what I have looked at in my setup. Obviously more lift=more room, and you can always sacrifice clearance at the axle tube w/ the shock mount but probably not a good idea.

I remember you saying that now. Should be a decent affordable platform to work from. And with that much lift you should be able to squeeze some bigger shocks in there for sure.
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Of course Good point about that. you are allowed to run 2 shocks per wheel/tire combo minus the spare. But the 6 pack is more than just 2... Although You could probably fab something up to run 2 shocks in unison. I wonder if anyone has ever welded 2 shock bodies together side by side, one flipped.

I don't think you can even get 14 in most wranglers. I think I'm limited to around 12 front and 10 rear from what I have looked at in my setup. Obviously more lift=more room, and you can always sacrifice clearance at the axle tube w/ the shock mount but probably not a good idea.

I remember you saying that now. Should be a decent affordable platform to work from. And with that much lift you should be able to squeeze some bigger shocks in there for sure.
Dont tempt anyone...you know someone has thought of, or tried what you are talking about

Ya in our case...the less to hang up on the rocks...the better. The silly unibody makes things a little trickier

Ya we got a pretty good deal on it...so it will definitely be an affordable platform to build off of.
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I'm gona go play in the garage with old shocks now. That's classic redneck fab if someone has done it.

Definitely excited to see this thing take shape and change as you work on it.

Do you know whose driving?
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I'm gona go play in the garage with old shocks now. That's classic redneck fab if someone has done it.

Definitely excited to see this thing take shape and change as you work on it.

Do you know whose driving?
Dont hurt yourself

That makes two of us haha

Not yet. We are still kind of up in the air with how we are going to do it. A couple different ideas are floating around...once the rig is testable, we will probably get more serious about who is driving.
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Unless they changed in the last 2 months..

One shock per corner.
2-5/8" max shock size.

GOOD LUCK getting more then 12" front shock in a quality 2.5/2.625 shock, and 10" rear.
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Unless they changed in the last 2 months..

One shock per corner.
2-5/8" max shock size.

GOOD LUCK getting more then 12" front shock in a quality 2.5/2.625 shock, and 10" rear.
Oops I made a typo up there...said 2.65...meant 2.625.

And I agree, with our limitations, 12 and 10 will probably be about our max.
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Just make sure you mount the shocks to travel as close to parallel to axle travel to maximize space and you will get the most out of it you can.

Con, the book actually does say 2.65" so not really your fault lol.

The 2 shock rule was from the modified class, got them mixed up! Sorry fellows.

I have no doubt you could fit a 14 front but you'd be sacrificing ground clearance at the lower mounts to do it which makes no sense. Unless you can tuck them in tight against another low hanging bracket and skid them.

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That makes two of us haha

Not yet. We are still kind of up in the air with how we are going to do it. A couple different ideas are floating around...once the rig is testable, we will probably get more serious about who is driving.

I was kidding I'm letting the rig drive a while while I recoup some funds and hunt front a front axle. She runs great right now so I don't need to jinx. Just a few little things I let go I need to attend to but they can wait, indefinitely if they have to. Shocks are not that high up there. No need to ruin a good thing right now. Plus once I start a project...

I'll drive it for you guys, so you don't have to argue
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Just make sure you mount the shocks to travel as close to parallel to axle travel to maximize space and you will get the most out of it you can.

Con, the book actually does say 2.65" so not really your fault lol.

The 2 shock rule was from the modified class, got them mixed up! Sorry fellows.

I have no doubt you could fit a 14 front but you'd be sacrificing ground clearance at the lower mounts to do it which makes no sense. Unless you can tuck them in tight against another low hanging bracket and skid them.

I was kidding

I'll drive it for you guys, so you don't have to argue
I knew what you meant...1 shock 2 shocks...same difference

I think ground clearance is way more crucial than travel in this case. 12" is quite a bit of travel as it is.

Hey...for a price, I bet we could arrange that

Also, it'd be hard not to trust Rob (rwkhaus)...hes raced EMC and jeepspeed...so I am sure he has a pretty good idea of what can be squeezed out of a cherokee as far as travel is concerned.
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Just make sure you mount the shocks to travel as close to parallel to axle travel to maximize space and you will get the most out of it you can.

Con, the book actually does say 2.65" so not really your fault lol.

The 2 shock rule was from the modified class, got them mixed up! Sorry fellows.

I have no doubt you could fit a 14 front but you'd be sacrificing ground clearance at the lower mounts to do it which makes no sense. Unless you can tuck them in tight against another low hanging bracket and skid them.
I dont think a 14" with anything less then 9" of lift would fit properly.

I have 7.5" over stock (kinda depends where you measure) in the front.

I have my upper mount the highest you can go and likely where 99% of all JS and Ultra4 XJ's run. And the lowers are as low as you can go. My lower shock mount bolt is perp. to the LCA bolt and at teh same exact plane. I have to remove my lower shock bolt to get the LCA bolt out.



Now if you run a smaller lessor shock like a 2" then the overall collapsed length of a 12" shock gets shorter. But a 12" 2.5" shock is more beneficial then a 2.0 14".

I have 6.5" up (limited to 6) and 5.5"ish down


The rear is VERY difficult to get more then a 10" 2.5 to fit.

Here is what we did.



That is what we first had, not we have about 1" more lift with some more tricky stuff back here.

Thats a 10" shock with axle travel at 7 up travel at bump and 7" down at drop. Shock is at 5.5 up and 5 dn, at ride height. With bump limiting the last full .5" of up travel.

We had to move the mounts back far enough and low enough on the housing to even get that in there. I have a 5" spring, .75" ubolt eliminiator and 2" shackle total lift about 8" with the larger 14bolt axle tube.
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I dont think a 14" with anything less then 9" of lift would fit properly.

I have 7.5" over stock (kinda depends where you measure) in the front.

I have my upper mount the highest you can go and likely where 99% of all JS and Ultra4 XJ's run. And the lowers are as low as you can go. My lower shock mount bolt is perp. to the LCA bolt and at teh same exact plane. I have to remove my lower shock bolt to get the LCA bolt out.



Now if you run a smaller lessor shock like a 2" then the overall collapsed length of a 12" shock gets shorter. But a 12" 2.5" shock is more beneficial then a 2.0 14".

I have 6.5" up (limited to 6) and 5.5"ish down


The rear is VERY difficult to get more then a 10" 2.5 to fit.

Here is what we did.



That is what we first had, not we have about 1" more lift with some more tricky stuff back here.

Thats a 10" shock with axle travel at 7 up travel at bump and 7" down at drop. Shock is at 5.5 up and 5 dn, at ride height. With bump limiting the last full .5" of up travel.

We had to move the mounts back far enough and low enough on the housing to even get that in there. I have a 5" spring, .75" ubolt eliminiator and 2" shackle total lift about 8" with the larger 14bolt axle tube.
Thanks for the input

On the front, you mentioned upper shock mounting where 99% of JS and ultra4s run them...is that the factory location, or different?

On the rear, are you running a crossmember between the "frame" rails and that is where your shocks mount?
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Thanks for the input

On the front, you mentioned upper shock mounting where 99% of JS and ultra4s run them...is that the factory location, or different?

On the rear, are you running a crossmember between the "frame" rails and that is where your shocks mount?
I run the T&J upper JS style shock mount then under hood have a tube welded to the upper mount bolt (I think its a 3/4" bolt) and that tube work ties to engine cage and thats tied to full everything cage.

The rear upper is mounted to floor/rail. I plated the rail and then plated the bottom of floor, and put shock mount on that lower floor plating. Then since we cant go thru the floor with anything but nuts and bolts. I plated the full rear cargo area under the cell with 3/16". SO the lower shock mounts goto a lower plate that is bolted thru the floor to another plate that also has tube work down to directly above the shock mount, and the upper shock mount bolt goes thru the frame rail that has been plated also. No additional under floor cross member. the floor is basically a cross member with how we did it.
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this might have some stuff on it that might give some visual. IDK...

This was about 2 yrs ago when it first started running.

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I run the T&J upper JS style shock mount then under hood have a tube welded to the upper mount bolt (I think its a 3/4" bolt) and that tube work ties to engine cage and thats tied to full everything cage.

The rear upper is mounted to floor/rail. I plated the rail and then plated the bottom of floor, and put shock mount on that lower floor plating. Then since we cant go thru the floor with anything but nuts and bolts. I plated the full rear cargo area under the cell with 3/16". SO the lower shock mounts goto a lower plate that is bolted thru the floor to another plate that also has tube work down to directly above the shock mount, and the upper shock mount bolt goes thru the frame rail that has been plated also. No additional under floor cross member. the floor is basically a cross member with how we did it.
Gotcha! That makes sense. If you have any more detailed pics of that, Id love to see them.

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