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Old 08-21-2013, 03:57 PM   #121
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Haha yeah, those are good to have... I wonder if I can get someone to pay for mine

I'm looking around for a jk hp44 axle right now for the TJ. The bigger u joints should be nice. It's next to impossible to find one around here though.

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I hear good things about those JK axles.

So just got delivery confirmation on the other package...I wonder what could possibly be waiting for me at home

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Old 08-21-2013, 05:43 PM   #123
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I don't know, tell me!

It's definitely a good axle. I'll still sleeve the tube, gusset the Cs and probably a small custom truss. I have a ton of steel around the garage and can weld so sky is the limit there. The Unit bearings are better than a TJs, I would swap out the crappy ball joints for PP or dyna. The Ring is 8.8 inches and the pinion is the strongest 44 pinion ever. The shafts are 32 spline (I think the inners are still the lower count, don't remember off the top of my head) but better than the tj or jk30 spline wise. The U joint is bigger than any other d30/44. It's 65 inches so I plan to do the super 88 kit and then add 1.25" spacers to convert to the JK pattern which will put me around 64" in the rear which is perfect. I won't quite be out to full width but I will be wider which is nice, about 2 inches per side. I can pull the wheels back in some when I get new ones, so I don't have to worry about the fender laws much. I run 3.75 BS now, I can easily go to a 4.5 or so and be fine as long as the JK brakes clear. I can worry about that later. Also I would have the rubi locker... a front selectable would be nice. I will stick at 4.10s for now I think. Should be a solid setup for 37s, thought I might have to put some better joints in the shafts at some point. I'll finally be able to set my ride height and do my hilines I've been wanting to build and outboard the shocks once everything is set. I measured the other day and since I probably won't have an inner fender til I build one, I could run a 15" in front if I wanted, and I can get a 12 in the rear pretty easily I think. I might settle with a 10 though to really get the bottom mount up. The JK axle should be able to get setup for around 1500 depending on how much I can steal on for... then wheels and tires will probably be used from a local club. I found some nice 36s on beadlocks all brand new for like 1200 the other day for 5.

Probably is I have another year of college to take down and the axle to locate. Next summer is my only "free" summer before grad school starts the next summer. I might try to pick up a DD to park the jeep to work on at that point...

Anyways back to your package...
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Old 08-21-2013, 05:51 PM   #124
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Blah...blah...blah

Anyways back to your package...
No need to get excited all over my thread haha jk. The JK axle is definitely a good choice from what I have seen. At one point I was seeing if we could snag a rubi take off set for the Cherokee. No luck though...I think the only thing I found at the time was a rear 44 for around 600. Ah well...we got a good deal on our set.

Well the package weighs in at 71 pounds (according to the packing slip.) You can take a guess...but pics will come this evening when I get out of class
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Yeah, and for a relatively light TJ with a gentle driver it should be good

71 pounds... brakes, bracket kits, skids... Hmmm. bumpers. Who knows.

I found a "rubi 44 rear" with new 4.88s... turns out it doesn't have the locker though?

Guy wanted 450. I was gona try to flip it, I still probably could but not as easily. My buddy might buy/flip it. Literally central PA has nothing for jeeps. We get some stuff at a local club, but it usually either really big or really small stuff. There was a brand new crate GM 60 for like 500 bucks. Rausch creek brings some stuff in and I keep an eye on their classifieds but I feel like cali has a way bigger market, even the west overall.
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Yeah, and for a relatively light TJ with a gentle driver it should be good

71 pounds... brakes, bracket kits, skids... Hmmm. bumpers. Who knows.

I found a "rubi 44 rear" with new 4.88s... turns out it doesn't have the locker though?

Guy wanted 450. I was gona try to flip it, I still probably could but not as easily. My buddy might buy/flip it. Literally central PA has nothing for jeeps. We get some stuff at a local club, but it usually either really big or really small stuff. There was a brand new crate GM 60 for like 500 bucks. Rausch creek brings some stuff in and I keep an eye on their classifieds but I feel like cali has a way bigger market, even the west overall.
Its not too hard to source parts out here. It helps to know people and where to look...but there is a lot of stuff.

No...no...no...and...no lol. Nice try
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We obviously have the front inners as well...but they arent pictured lol
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Umm Axles.. I like axles lol

SO your staying 31 spline then correct? And rear drum?
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Umm Axles.. I like axles lol

SO your staying 31 spline then correct? And rear drum?
Yes sir.

Bumping up to a 35 spline would be nice...but the way we saw it...We have a set of 31 splines in my buddy's yota, and also have the old 31 splines. This means 4 spares. Had we gone 35, one busted shaft means we are pretty much done.

The drums will get fresh gear put in them as well.
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I know a BOMB proof 14bolt trussed, 5.38's shaved to better then D44 clearance, disc, spool and chromoly shafts, setup for a cherokee, for sale for a Very fair price :-)
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I know a BOMB proof 14bolt trussed, 5.38's shaved to better then D44 clearance, disc, spool and chromoly shafts, setup for a cherokee, for sale for a Very fair price :-)
Why you gotta tease us like that ?

Is it yours?
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yes. Building a Bling 9", want to go 5.83 or even 6.0.
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As another offer. I have a set of new 35spline alloy Yukon shafts that I will give ya for 185$ for the pair (less then 1/2 price). then all you need is to exchange that 31sp spool for a 35sp and get a new drop out (231$). just saying... :-)
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Sorry for the lack of update...we currently have the rear end sitting on its own weight. We also have the front end all welded up. The shafts and what not just need installed, then it can all be bolted up. Next up will be driveshaft measurements and steering. No pics yet...I will have some once we have it completely on all fours. Shes wide and tall
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By rear end on it's on weight... you mean you're sittin on your butt posting on WF instead of wrenching...

PICS!
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PICS!
Hey...hey...hey!

No I mean its on roller 35s
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Sorry for the lack of updates lately everyone...weve been so busy with....everything else.

Last I posted, we thought we were gonna have a roller. Unfortunately, when we were putting the front axle together, it turned out that the brake calipers were hitting on the knuckles (that's what happens when you are piecing together multiple axles I guess). We've been doing some hunting, and found new knuckles that will fit and hold the brake calipers. So this weekend, it should actually be a true roller. Once it's on it's own weight, we will grab some measurements to send off to Tom Woods for some drive shafts.

Then, yesterday we met up with a guy from Pirate and picked up a new 22 gallon Jaz fuel cell for an awesome price! One more thing to knock off the list...

So I think the plan for October will be to finish up the minor details with suspension and get the cage built. That's what we are shooting for as of now at least.
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Things are going along pretty nicely. Thanks for sharing it.
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I am sorry for such a long delay in pictures and updates. I have had pretty limited access lately, so the build thread is lacking. Here are a few recent pictures. Hopefully I can get a few more this weekend to share with you all.

Here is a pic of one of our team members picking up tires from our newest sponsor, T&T Alignment. We will be running the Falken Wildpeak ATs on this rig with a custom groove pattern.


Here is another picture of our latest order of parts. This includes a set of weld on beadlocks, front frame stiffeners, front diff cover, and a few other things.
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Heck yeah man. Nice!
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Well...I guess you can say this is probably the worst build thread ever lol. My access to the website and a computer has been pretty limited so I wasnt able to update like I was hoping. It is lacking a lot of the "build." In order to make up for it, I can at least provide you guys with some of the close-to-finished pics. We took the Poor Boy rig out yesterday for a shakedown...and it seemed to do very well in the rocks. We can only hope it holds together at Hammers. Let us know what you think and let the questions flow in! Again, I am sorry this thread died off!!







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I shared the crap out of your stuff on FB man. Goodluck. Rig looks great.
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I shared the crap out of your stuff on FB man. Goodluck. Rig looks great.
Awesome! We appreciate all of the support. Stay tuned, as I am gonna get pics of hammer town, other cool stuff, as well as the car itself. I will also put together a summary of our journey to post up. And to top it off...we will have at least 3 gopros either in the car or on our person...so we should get a little footage.

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