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Old 07-22-2013, 03:43 PM   #241
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Hmm, that's odd. I run about the same rpms at 70, and I have the i6/32rh/4.10 on 31s. My speedometer is nearly spot on according to GPS.
So is mine, 36 tooth speedo.

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I must be remembering it wrong. Wouldn't be the first time...

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Old 07-22-2013, 03:49 PM   #243
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I must be remembering it wrong. Wouldn't be the first time...
Wouldn't be that much if a difference between 31s and 33s anyways.
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Wouldn't be that much if a difference between 31s and 33s anyways.
Yup, just a couple hundred difference. These old eyes ain't what they used to be.
I like your jeep, its coming along great. Keep the updates coming...
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Old 07-22-2013, 08:41 PM   #245
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Yep. My speedo could be a little low (aka 70 is really 73 or so) but either way rpms seem high. Thanks man. Not much to update for a while now, I have a few little things to do but then save up and plan the next big jump.
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Old 07-23-2013, 12:36 PM   #246
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It's funny to see how far she's come.



I need to update later with more pics, show how I modded the stock rear bumper, and a few other things. Any questions or pic requests post up. I know I got rushed at the end of this and didnt really put a ton of detail in.
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Old 07-23-2013, 03:39 PM   #247
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A few "final" pics.
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Old 07-24-2013, 10:05 AM   #248
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Looks great! I especially love the tranny x member. I think I may fab one like that when I eventually tuck.
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Old 07-24-2013, 10:06 AM   #249
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Looks great! I especially love the tranny x member. I think I may fab one like that when I eventually tuck.
Thanks a lot man. It's well worth it.
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Old 07-24-2013, 11:51 AM   #250
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Finally finished reading your thread. Very well done on the first stage (I know you're not done building). In fact my son and I are fabbing a xmember and skid modeled after yours. We have the tub off the chassis so its the perfect time.
I'm gonna have to come check out this Raucsh Creek, looks like a blast.
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Old 07-24-2013, 12:18 PM   #251
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Thanks man, it was definitely fun but a lot of work and a learning experience. Good to hear, I have actually had quite a handful of people contact me about building/fabbing a cross member. If you have any questions or need advice about anything feel free to post or PM me. Goodluck. Rausch Creek is a blast, I could wheel there for weeks.
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Old 07-24-2013, 04:16 PM   #252
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So lets have a discussion about the next stage of my build. Anyone feel free to chime in. I already have my own thoughts about this but I am going to try and present everything factually and unbiased. Please do not answer in a condescending tone because as I mentioned I have already thought this out a bit but want to keep my mind semi-open.

So I won't be outboarding my shocks til I am done building my front axle, highline fenders, and have the 37s on. I want maximum uptravel. Fenders will be a custom build set of arched hilines that are arched 1 inch above the hood line that gets cut, in line with wheel travel. The whole fender will be arched not just the flare. Rears will be stock flares raised 1.5-2 inches. Tires will be whatever I can find locally probably, but dream tires are PBRs or some blue labels... right.

Anyways, that brings us to the front axle. 37s are a sucky tire size. I can beef the crap out of a hp30 for around 1200, build a narrow 44 for around 1200-1500, or narrow and build a 60 for 2200-2500+?

Ideally I would just get the 60 right? Except I don't have that kind of cash. the 30 and 44 use the same weak U joints. We just blew one up this weekend on a rig setup just like mine but with a rubi case. I don't think either axle shaft/u joint is gona stand up to my type of wheeling for very long at all on 37s... not to mention brakes, ball joints, and on the 30 ring gears/pinions and even the tubes. I could run with 35s or 36s but honestly I feel like the axles are still weak.

One option I considered is a 44 with RCV shafts. But still pricey as heck, and at that point the 60 is almost worth it.

What I really want is to look for a narrowed 60 that comes up for sale I can pick up, even if I have to redo a lot of the work. I found a set a few months ago, but didn't have the cash and wasn't ready for it at the time.

So I need to see what I can turn up as far as a front axle. I've been watching pirate and locals but until I save some cash back up it doesn't matter much considering the cost of these axles.
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Old 07-24-2013, 04:29 PM   #253
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I suggest taking a route like Imped.. Drop it down to 2-2.5" coils like you mentioned before. Build it to be a "lcg" rig, get maximum up travel and droop. Put on a set of 35s, since it'd be less to beef up axles and brakes for that. Do the highlines.
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Old 07-24-2013, 04:32 PM   #254
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Why copy what someone else did? haha. I know what I want to do, and I like my suspension height where it is at 3 inches. With the weight of armor and what not it's close to 2.5 anyways. I will be hopefully running slightly more uptravel than his rig, thought he does have his tuned in very well. I am going to see exactly how long of a shock I can run once I get it all built and if I can swing a 14 front 12 rear I will... I don't really want 35s, I might as well stay on 33s and not spend another penny. I don't need 3 inches of hilines to only go up an inch in tire size over the axle. Know what I mean? It's go big or go home.
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Right on, I get what you're saying. I was just saying that route to maybe save you a few dollars. Whatever way you go it's gonna be legit, I'll be tuned in.
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Old 07-24-2013, 05:15 PM   #256
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Yeah, but if it doesn't make me happy I might as well not spend the cash right I'll probably just see where I am at cash wise this winter time and start looking for someone selling an axle. For now the rig is super capable on 33s and I am happy.
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I'd look for a HP44 sleeve truss and gusset it, rcv's and lock it. That'll leave you with a very stout axle capable of 37's and you won't have to worry about clearance like you would a 60. Think about how far you want to go, next stage either stops at that and 37's or you go full width 60's locked, avoid cutting axles that way, Coilover it and roll 39 or 40's. Think about if you'll be content on 37's and pick, I'd stretch and run a cell either way.
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Old 07-25-2013, 12:19 AM   #258
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Can't run full widths or bigger than 37s or 38s in pa on the road. Ill build a full width trailer queen some day but I would like to DD this one. I thought about a hp44 setup like you said. I'd just have to bring the width in with wheels but I don't know how that would work.
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Can't run full widths or bigger than 37s or 38s in pa on the road. Ill build a full width trailer queen some day but I would like to DD this one. I thought about a hp44 setup like you said. I'd just have to bring the width in with wheels but I don't know how that would work.
Just get the tubes cut, problem solved
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I could narrow one to run waggy shafts or something, but at all that trouble I would rather just do the 60. I'm gona run some numbers. I would definitely shave the 60 with only 37 inch tires. I have plenty of time to figure this out. I still hope someones axle just pops up for sale, Pirate and Rausch forums usually have pretty good pickins.
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I could narrow one to run waggy shafts or something, but at all that trouble I would rather just do the 60. I'm gona run some numbers. I would definitely shave the 60 with only 37 inch tires. I have plenty of time to figure this out. I still hope someones axle just pops up for sale, Pirate and Rausch forums usually have pretty good pickins.
Yep, wouldn't surprise me. Either way you'll have a great setup. Looking forward to it.
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Thanks bud. I'm just gona kinda chill, enjoy the jeep for a while and see what happens. I will put away some cash this fall and go from there.
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Here's how my cross member turned out. Still haven't figured how you got yours tucked up so high with no DS bind.? Guess your that good. Waiting impatiently on my motor mount lift.

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See the mount your bolted to? I got rid of that and notched the cross member for the front cv joint. Looks good though.

Rear DS is close but I got my pinion angle right on so it's good. And ya don't see full droop much but it works there too.
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Don't know where you live but on my local Craigslist there are plenty of d60s to pick from. And some aren't unreasonably priced. Just saying if you haven't checked CL don't be shy.
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Don't know where you live but on my local Craigslist there are plenty of d60s to pick from. And some aren't unreasonably priced. Just saying if you haven't checked CL don't be shy.
I have a friend with a 60 for me already. Getting one isn't really the issue.
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I know how you feel. I'm saving for a Rubi Crawler right now. Everyone says it's going to be a waste of money. I don't care. I want it and want to try it out on the rocks. Lot's of ways to crawl a rock. But you gotta enjoy the rush of, I did it the way I wanted to. It's your money and your time. You got one sweet Jeep. It will be even sweeter when you get to the next level.
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Golden, if I'm looking at your pics right you deleted the trans mount and bracket so the plate on the xmember bolts directly to the trans, correct? Also looks like 2x2 square tube, 1/4" thick? Ordering that Ruff Stuff mount today, I see they offer a 10% forum discount. Hopefully we will start fabbing next weekend.
Also I have an 8.8 in my shop ready to build. I have some questions for you but no time right now. If you don't mind I'll get back to you on that.
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Yep gunner, I like to crawl, I like to build, and I like to wheel and fab stuff. It's fun to me.

Sure thing Allterrain, and yes correct about everything you said.
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See the mount your bolted to? I got rid of that and notched the cross member for the front cv joint. Looks good though.

Rear DS is close but I got my pinion angle right on so it's good. And ya don't see full droop much but it works there too.
That's what I thought. After studying your pic. I couldn't do that since my full droop will be much more with the long arm triangulation. Thanks

Yours looked like it did very well on the trail

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