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Old 12-27-2011, 11:32 AM   #1
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Stinger build done (for now)

So when I started this project I had a few goals in mind. I wanted it to be frame width, fairly light, look good, and to protect my winch from deer, tree limbs, low speed impact. I don't intend to use it for roll overs or tips which are the real reason for a stinger. I also wanted to do all the work and welding myself even though I have very limited experience. I taught myself everything. I modeled my build off of another I had seen. I used the frame rail brackets from rokmen and I purchased the stinger from jeep tubes. I opted for the trail stinger not the tall because I didn't want overkill. Just functionality.

I started wjth the brackets and Some 4x4 inch 1/2 in steel plates I got a buddy tiger me. Welded those up after teu were ground square and beveled. Then got the stinger tube, cut the ends for roughly a 55 degree angle. And welded them. Took about 3 passes on the tube because te fit wasn't quite perfect. I used 3/32s 7018 rod on a Lincoln 225 ac. Not the best welder but it's what I have. I had never welded tube before so it took a little practice to run the beads good but it ended well. I intended to gusset the space between bar and plate but there was very little room. I decided to use a synthetic body filler for metal to blend the welds and make it look smoother. Got that on and a quick Sand and paint job to get a look at it. I can't decide if I want to add a front plate or a mid stinger bar. And what gussets and braces to add. Still trying to make up my mind. But here she is as of now. I would have made the angle a little higher if I could redo but it protects my winch very well right now. I am very happy with it. Total cost after the tube brackets welding rods etc was about $105. Not bad when a stiffer anywhere else is 300 or 400 or more.
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Old 12-27-2011, 11:33 AM   #2
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Old 12-29-2011, 08:24 AM   #3
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Nice. Can't really see from the pics but do you have protection in front of the crossmember? Did you make you own winch mount too or was that purchased?
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Me Gusta, How much was the pre-bent stinger and where can I get it?
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Me Gusta, How much was the pre-bent stinger and where can I get it?
paragraph says he got if from jeep tubes, the paragraph also says that total cost of the tube, brackets, and all was just over 100 dollars.......
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Thanks.

Stinger cost 75 shipped. If you know someone with a bender you can get one bent for alot cheaper. I couldn't get any shops to do it @$$ hats.

nasty, no there is no cross member, thats why the title says done (for now) hahaha. Its just as pictured in the last pic of first post. Prob gona run a piece of 1/4 across the front between the brackets and then triangulate the bottom with two pieces of tube that come together at the midpoint under the fairlead and connect to the stinger at about 10-12 inches up the length. Not really sure yet what I want to do though, I am trying to keep weight down. And the winch mount is the engo mount I got when I got my winch. 50 bucks. I thought about welding it in, I still might. I need to drill a piece of 3/16 I have to fit between the brackets and the steering box skid because It doesnt fit tight there. Its gona get bedlined when I am all done welding. This was just to get it on and get a look at what I want to add.
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paragraph says he got if from jeep tubes, the paragraph also says that total cost of the tube, brackets, and all was just over 100 dollars.......
I'm friends with him and was joking around. Lol
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I'm friends with him and was joking around. Lol
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I'm friends with him and was joking around. Lol
i just wanted to be a smarty pants hahaha

golden, any more work done to it yet? wanna make me one? LOL
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i just wanted to be a smarty pants hahaha

golden, any more work done to it yet? wanna make me one? LOL

haha how far away from me are you? I will weld it for you, I am getting better lol. I am gona wait for spring to add some more then bedline it all. I have the welds covered up in a body filler type stuff right now to keep the rust out of the pits. it has a few spots of surface rust but I soaked it in some penetrant oil so that should help. I want to run a piece across the bottom, and prob a piece of 1/4 plate across the bottom of the bars out front. 5-6 inches high I have to measure. Should be cool. Ill do it when I get the steel to do my rockers with. I need to work on being more steady and holding a better angle on the rod. The welds on the tube part were so hard because its rotating around at a different angle every inch. I did a few extra passes on them, haha.
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Im actually fabbing 2 rear bumpers monday, 1 for me and one for the friend with welding expertise , and we were contemplating on making some stingers too, he's got a pipe bender so we might look into this! Awesome job!
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Is it mounted directly to the frame? Or did you mount it on a stubby bumper, can't really tell from the pics.
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Sorry I didn't see these posts. The stinger is welded to a bracket. I used from rokmen with a face welded on. Finished it up today. Rockers fenders etc are Next. I am leaving stock bumper chopped in rear to save weight.


Buddy with a mig helped me do the sheet piece today. 99tj
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Sorry I didn't see these posts. The stinger is welded to a bracket. I used from rokmen with a face welded on. Finished it up today. Rockers fenders etc are Next. I am leaving stock bumper chopped in rear to save weight.


Buddy with a mig helped me do the sheet piece today. 99tj
Looks great! Good job.

My buddy and I are building a stinger and I was thinking of the exact same design as you, but have 2 reenforcement bars behind the stinger, mounted about 2/3 of the way up and then weld somewhere to the frame so when we do go for a front end flip, it will actually work and not crumple.
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Looks great! Good job.

My buddy and I are building a stinger and I was thinking of the exact same design as you, but have 2 reenforcement bars behind the stinger, mounted about 2/3 of the way up and then weld somewhere to the frame so when we do go for a front end flip, it will actually work and not crumple.
Thanks! And that would be nice! This stinger is more of a winch protector and a deer killer then a real functional stinger I am considering running my supports into the tube fenders I am building soon and those into the rockers. But I want to make sure I like and want to keep each piece first. I am probably going to redo a stinger in a few years and make it 4 inches wider on each side and use solid square tubing across. So I can have 4 attachment points on the bumper and 2 more to the fenders. This design was more or less for weight savings and as I mentioned winch protection.

Another option would be to machine a bracket that fits onto the frame on 3 slides and mount using that. Might be able to prevent welding onto the frame.
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Nice job!!! looks great! one question for you though.... the stinger looks a bit low to me, is that your correct approach angle for your jeep? you don't want to hit the stinger on the base of that steep hill climb you wana do. all jeeps have different approach angles, when building a stinger you need to measure what yours is and weld accordingly.
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Nice job!!! looks great! one question for you though.... the stinger looks a bit low to me, is that your correct approach angle for your jeep? you don't want to hit the stinger on the base of that steep hill climb you wana do. all jeeps have different approach angles, when building a stinger you need to measure what yours is and weld accordingly.
I initially positioned it to cover my fairlead as seen while allowing for good approach.. It's a steeper angle than my jeep can climb right now so. No real issues. And the angle is based off of where your front wheels come on contact with the ground to the front most part of your vehicle, which is my faithless. If the slope is steeper than the line from the foremost piece of tire path in contact tithe bottom front edge of the fair lead I would hit the fair lead before the tires would climb. So following that, the angle on the stinger should be the exact same line. As mentioned. Which it is right at

Also as mentioned this is more of a winch guard than a traditional stinger. And I have adjusted the mounts slightly since these pictures and gained about 2-3 degrees of clearance.

Also I can still do all the hillclimbs on all my local trails. Approach angle isn't really relevant in most of the hills I do because every thing in pa slopes into gradual hills and not sharp angles such as rocks etc. I suppose by the time I end up locking both new axles and swapping them in, I might be able to climb a sheer cliff but if I am going to all that work I can take a few hours and weld up a new stinger
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You can see the angle a little better in this pic and notice how the faithless protrudes slightly from the stinger by a few inches.
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Yeah I see that... mine does that too... I asked cause there is a good amount of guys out there who will build stingers for their rigs and just stick em on, not measure or even try to make them the same angle as their rigs approach angle.


The last picture is a good picture, I can see that your stinger shows your approach angle now. NICE JOB!!!
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Yeah a lot of guys build for looks not function.
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Id say you achieved both....nice job
Thanks man it's alright. I might make something a little different because I made a friend with a bender.
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I've been thinking of making my own stinger. That said looks great man.
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I've been thinking of making my own stinger. That said looks great man.
Thanks. It's actually very simple to do, just practice welding some tube first it's tough compared to a flat joint.

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Haha yeah too bad! I want to move out westward some day. Maybe I'll end up your way. I am thinking Colorado right now.


I have like 2 guys who said they will machine me stuff now and met a guy with 2 migs and a tig who is a way better welder than me. So I get to learn a little bit more.
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The best thing to do is watch the bead, after that its all in holding the guns right to achieve what you want

I taught the ole lady to TIG in one night...granted she's not perfect yet, but its not that bad really.

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The best thing to do is watch the bead, after that its all in holding the guns right to achieve what you want

I taught the ole lady to TIG in one night...granted she's not perfect yet, but its not that bad really.
I can imagine mig has to be easier than arc just because some days I can run a good bead and be really steady, and other days the end of the rod is all over the place. I talked to a guy and he taught me a lot of angle and speed and how to get the puddle how you want and that really helped a lot along with lots of practice.

And nice! Looks like fun.

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