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Old 08-25-2014, 12:52 PM   #1
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Well I've been wanting to start a thread about my trailer build, but my progress has been slower than I would like. I've got it to the point where I can start showing pics of it, so I figured I'd start the thread...

The reason I'm building it is because my wife and I love to go camping, but our German Shepherd Lexie has grown too big for the rear of both of my Wranglers if we plan on hauling camping gear in the Jeep. This way we'll be able to haul all of our gear in the trailer and keep the rear of the Wranglers open for the QUEEN.

Anyways, here is how she currently sits. If anyone is interested in the pics I took along the way, I can post them as well.
She's on 33's mounted to Cragar Soft 8's with a 5x5 bp and 4" bs.
Everything is overbuilt. The axle and spindles and leaves are all for a 3500lb heavy duty application. We have a lot of gear, but not THAT much!

Frame is 2"x2"x11 gauge tubing. Sides/top are 1"x2"x11 gauge tubing. Tongue is 2"x3"x11 gauge tubing and it's full length. It ties into the rear receiver hitch.



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Old 08-25-2014, 12:57 PM   #2
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I'm a little bit of Type A when it comes to measuring and squaring and centering. That trailer is perfectly square and the uprights are centered. They look a little off in a couple of the pics, but that's just the perspective of the camera angle. I assure you it's all square and centered. My wife makes fun of me about stuff like that.

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Forgot to add the dimensions...duh! The box is 4' wide and 5' long and 19" high (exterior measurements). The tongue is full length at 10', so the trailer has a total length of exactly 10'. The tongue length beyond the front of the trailer box (there's going to be a tongue box in front) will still allow my JK tailgate to open completely. I did the drop-down tailgate conversion on my YJ a couple years back so that won't pose any issue at all.
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Some more random build pics...

I'll probably post some more later...


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That's pretty cool. I wish I had the welding skills to do that.
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Old 08-25-2014, 07:32 PM   #6
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That's pretty cool. I wish I had the welding skills to do that.
Get a decent welder and you might surprise yourself at how easy welding really is.
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I bought a decent welder once...It's not that easy. It's a talent! Looking good so far.
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Man, that really looks good! Wish I had the ability to make one.
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Looking good. There seems to be a lot of trailer builds lately. Maybe I should post mine up...mine is a bit different though.
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You sure you got enough penetration on those welds? Looks like you need to turn the heat up just a bit.
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Old 08-26-2014, 01:26 PM   #11
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Hey Chris! I did a bunch of test welds on some scrap 11 gauge tubing I have and it looks like the penetration is fine (giggity). I cross-sectioned a couple different welds and it looks like they'll hold. Guess we'll see when I take it offroad! That'll be the real test.
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I was just giving you $h!t. The penetration looks fine from here. (giggity)

Lookin good so far. I had plans of making a jeep trailer out of a tub but plans have changed and my next jeep build will have enough room in side for all 4 of us, the dog and camping gear so I won't need a trailer.

What's the thickness of the steel you are using?
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It's 11 gauge, so it's pretty sturdy. I shied away from using 1/4" thick stuff just due to the crazy weight that it would end up being. I want this trailer to be sturdy, but not weigh so much my JK's lame 3.8L engine would struggle to tow it. I'm not worried about the YJ's 4.0L, just the 3.8
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I decided to go with a 2" ball coupler for the moment. Mostly because I had a spare one...hahaha.
I'm just going to bolt it on with four 1/2" bolts. I figure that should be pretty secure. I'm not going to weld it on because I'm not entirely sure I'm going to stick with the ball coupler. I want to see how it performs offroad. If it isn't up to my standards, I'll replace it with a ring and run a pintle hitch on the Jeeps. I've driven enough vehicles with ring and pintles to know that they're loud and they bang around a bunch. BUT...they do articulate very well offroad. We'll see how this coupler works. If it does everything I want it to do, I'll finish weld it to the tongue.

There will be a 1000# wheeled tongue jack on the tongue as well, so moving it around by hand will be that much easier.

As for the sides, I'm running a 5gal jerry can on each side, in front of the fender. I'll probably get around to building the gas can mounts sometime in the next week. I'm also planning on running a 10# propane bottle on the left rear, behind the fender. It'll be detachable of course, for refilling and for running down the road. Don't want a propane bottle on the rear corner of a trailer where it could possibly be rear-ended. It'll store in the tongue box or in the trailer itself then when we need it for camping, it'll mount on the trailer with a long enough hose to attach it to our propane accessories (in Hank Hill's voice...).
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Sounds like a solid plan. I like it. When I was in England they had a store there a lot like Harbor Freight and they had a pretty nice jerrycan mount. When it comes time to build my jeep I'll probably order a couple of those. Did you make those fenders or buy them? I used to have an old 74 Chevy pickup (where the 350 for the Cat Jeep came from) that I turned into a pickup box trailer and I used 2x 1/2" bolts for it and it is still holding up just fine.
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Nice build! Where did you source the fenders? They look like the ones I got from Northern Tool, but bigger? Mine just barely clear stock 31's...
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I actually found those fenders on eBay of all places. They were just under $80 shipped. I knew I'd have to trim them to not only fit the trailer, but also the tires. They're super solid and should work really well for what I want them to do. They'll be hard mounted to where they'll bear my weight should I ever want to stand on one.
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A couple pics of how I mounted the rear receiver to the frame/tongue. They're all tied into each other...



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wow, incredible skill...nice work man!!

Lookin forward to the completed pics
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I actually found those fenders on eBay of all places. They were just under $80 shipped. I knew I'd have to trim them to not only fit the trailer, but also the tires. They're super solid and should work really well for what I want them to do. They'll be hard mounted to where they'll bear my weight should I ever want to stand on one.
Thanks! I cut mine down last night, but forgot to snap a pic....now the tires look like a fat guy wearing a yamaka, but good enough to put it on the Florida roads!
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Haven't had much time to work on the trailer. My flight schedule has had me jumping through my own a$$.
However, I did find time to weld on a bunch of tie-downs and the safety chain mounts. Not much, but at least it's progress...



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Picked up an Army mobile medical cabinet from another pilot who has an entire WAREHOUSE of military surplus. I think it's going to work perfectly as a tongue box. It's aluminum, so it's light. It's air/water tight, so that's a plus. It's deep enough that I can run a couple of deep-cycle 12v batteries inside it with enough room for storage.
I'll build a mount for it sometime soon. I'm getting ready to build the gas can mount brackets at this point, so the tongue box will come after that.

Here's a pic of the box sitting on the tongue where I'll eventually mount it.
I still need to modify and mount the fenders, but I'm chomping at the bit to take it for a shakedown run to see how well it tracks behind the Jeep.
I'll provide more pics along the way...



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Awesome build! You're building that puppy like a tank, lol! I like your storage idea for the front! Now get busy and finish er up!
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Awesome build! You're building that puppy like a tank, lol! I like your storage idea for the front! Now get busy and finish er up!
Thanks! It's been a fun build. I've been working on it in my spare time but it's taking a little longer than I would like. Can't wait to put it behind the Jeep and see how she tows!
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That extra storage in the front should take care of the issues I'm having with mine!

My build is on a tight budget, so I'm considering this for the front.

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I've read some decent reviews for that tongue box. The only issue people were having with them is some of them need the latching/locking mechanism to be tweaked to work properly. That's an easy fix, IMO. I say go for it.
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Sweet! Couple questions.

Do you intend to take it offroad, or just basecamp off dirt roads?

Where did you get the axle and springs? Roughly how much did they cost?

What detail am I seeing in the front and rear corners? Looks cool, but pic is blurry. (Like bolt heads)

What do you intend to do with floor and walls? Rear gate?

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Sweet! Couple questions. Do you intend to take it offroad, or just basecamp off dirt roads? Where did you get the axle and springs? Roughly how much did they cost? What detail am I seeing in the front and rear corners? Looks cool, but pic is blurry. (Like bolt heads) What do you intend to do with floor and walls? Rear gate? Nice work!
Thanks!

I plan on taking it offroad on club runs as well as camping.

I built the axle. I got a hub and spindle kit from a company called R and P Carriages online. I paid $109 shipped. They provided hubs to match my JK bolt pattern.
I bought the steel for the axle tube itself. It's heavy duty 2"id schedule 40 pipe. It ran $32 for the raw steel.
The springs I sourced online as well. They ran me $60 shipped.
The spring hangers, spring pads, and u bolts/plates combined ran me $32. I sourced them locally.

All told, I have just over $230 in the suspension alone. It's all overbuilt, so I don't have to worry about breaking anything when I abuse it offroad. I'm a firm believer of build it right, build it once.

Those aren't bolt heads on the corners, those are stitch welds. They'll be ground smooth and filled.

Now...the question that I still can't answer with 100% certainty...I'm not totally sure what I'm going to use for the floor. I'm thinking 3/4" pressure treated, exterior grade plywood. Mostly because it'll be quieter with stuff banging around in the trailer. I'm also thinking of doing maybe a 12-14ga steel plate for the floor. As you can tell, I'm still undecided. As for the sides, I THINK I'm going with some aluminum treadplate.

I'm building a flushmount rear gate, just haven't had time to do it yet. I've got all the materials to complete it, just not the time...yet. I'm hoping to get a chance to work on the trailer this weekend.
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My main focus for this weekend is to get the fenders trimmed/modded and mounted. Then I'll focus on getting my brackets built to hold my jerry can mounts.
At some point, it's going for a drive down the road. Hopefully this weekend!
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Great build! You do some exceptional work.

Can't wait to see the final product.

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