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Old 01-10-2012, 08:02 PM   #1
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Question Waggoneer D44s under a TJ

I've got an oppertunity to get a set of dana44s from a late 80s model waggoneer for $500. They have been cleaned and painted and are complete. Does this sound like a good deal and does anyone know how difficult it is to put these axles under a 2001 tj? I know it means new brackets but aside of that is there anything else????

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Old 01-11-2012, 02:40 PM   #2
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You could just buy them sell them to me Ill bolt them into my yj and you can get some rubi dana 44's.....just saying.

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You're looking at bracket kits which run around $200 each roughly. then having someone weld them up and set pinion angles and such, unless thats something you can do yourself. you'll also have to address the fact that the lug pattern is different, so new hub assemblies all around or new tires.. you may also need to address gear ratios..

you haven't said why you want dana44s.. are you looking to go bigger tires? do you have issues with your current axles?
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Old 09-09-2012, 09:39 AM   #4
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Been a while but thought I would update this thread. I bought the axles so far I have the stuff to do the ford 5on5,5 swap minus bearings. I found the 4.56 r&p flattop knuckles. I really think this will be a good axle when finished to run my 37s. The problem I'm having though is with the truss for the ds upper control arm mount. I'm gonna have to truss over the diff somehow. Because of the cast spring perch in the chunk there's limited room. I've found some expensive kits but if anyone has any cheaper easier ideas please share them. Also if anyone is interested I've got the rear 44 with all the brackets ground off for sale. Right after. Buying the 44s I came across a 8.8 with disks. 4.56s and already setup under a wrecked tj for $500. Found spacer/adapters for 5on4.5 to 5on5.5 for $20. I'll trade the rear 44 for 17" rims 5on5.5 or high steer parts. Sell it for make N offer. I hope to b riding soon so anyone in the chattanooga area with parts, knowledge, or wanna ride hit me up.
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Old 09-09-2012, 05:38 PM   #5
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That $500 price tag was high. In comparison, I bought this set of 1986 Wagoneer D44's 12 months ago for the asking price of $250.

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jeeperdad and copperhead, I am anxious to see build lists of your axles. I have been considering Waggy 44s f/r for my TJ. I think JK 44s would be nice to work with (considering the aftermarket support), but it seems for the right deal, you can pick up a set of them and partialy build them for the selling price of JK 44s.
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Old 09-10-2012, 04:49 PM   #7
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jeeperdad and copperhead, I am anxious to see build lists of your axles. I have been considering Waggy 44s f/r for my TJ. I think JK 44s would be nice to work with (considering the aftermarket support), but it seems for the right deal, you can pick up a set of them and partialy build them for the selling price of JK 44s.
So far, I've only built the front D44. I had a driveline shop completely rebuild it, swapped the 3.31 gears for Dana Spicer 4.55's, added a Detroit Locker, and Superior Discovery Series axles. I did a SOA on my YJ and I wanted to do high steer, so I added Parts Mike flat top knuckles and forged steel offset steering arms. In total, I've got about 3k into this axle (ouch!). Fortunately, the rear D44 won't be so darned expensive. It will also get the 4.55's, Detroit, and Superior Discovery axles. I also bought a rear disc brake conversion kit for it.
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I been looking for a set of 44 axles out of a '82 and up wagoneer. Does anyone know where I can find some?
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Old 09-12-2012, 10:26 PM   #9
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I been looking for a set of 44 axles out of a '82 and up wagoneer. Does anyone know where I can find some?
Keep a sharp eye on craigslist. That's where I found mine. Look for ads of 1985 and up Wagoneers being parted out.
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Keep a sharp eye on craigslist. That's where I found mine. Look for ads of 1985 and up Wagoneers being parted out.
Thanks I hav been looking on craigslist, but only in my area. Maybe I should widen my search.
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Old 09-15-2012, 08:48 PM   #11
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I'm only building the front cause I found a 8.8 already setup for the rear for $500. I'll sell the waggoneer 44 rear for $250. It's already got the perches ground off. Message me if interested.
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Old 09-17-2012, 10:11 PM   #12
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What year wagoneer could I get axles from to fit my '97 tj?
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:41 AM   #13
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Well not sure if this posted but just wanted to share an image of my custom truss I'm building for the waggoneer front going in my tj. Very time consuming but been an interesting build do far.
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:54 AM   #14
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The TNT Customs truss would be looking really good at that point. Hahaha.

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Old 11-13-2012, 09:34 PM   #15
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Oh yeah that would have been the ticket but by the time I got all the brackets it'd been pushing $800. I'll have prob $100 in this setup n so far it's looking pretty professional. Nothing is welded yet though so TnT isn't out. Heheh!
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:21 PM   #16
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are the dana44s out of a wagoneer bolt in for a yj?
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:24 PM   #17
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are the dana44s out of a wagoneer bolt in for a yj?
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:25 PM   #18
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didnt think so lol, yjkid95's post @ the top of the page threw me off for a minute.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:28 PM   #19
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Honestly there are much better Dana 44s out there than ones that came in wagoneers
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Old 11-14-2012, 10:30 PM   #20
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I'll end up having a good amount of money and whole lot of time in this build but I'll be able to say I built it all myself. If I could go back n start it over I'd just find a set of dana 60s to build. I'm gonna run 37 BFG km2s so now I'm stuck deciding do I go chromoly and all that or do I set these D44s aside n build 1 tons. I have however acquired a lot of fab tools and suspension knowledge.
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Old 11-14-2012, 10:36 PM   #21
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Oh yeah one more thing. I'm in need of a set of 17" wheels with the 5 on 5.5 lug pattern. I'm in the Chattanooga tn area and not really wanting to buy a brand new set so all deals considered.
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Great looking build ya have so far
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I haven't seen gear ratios mentioned yet. Most FSJ gear ratios for the 1/2 tons (Waggies, Cherokees and J-10s) will be 3.54, 3.31 and 2.73. Something to keep in mind.

FSJ axles won't bolt in for any of the smaller Jeeps, and even less so for the TJs or JKs.

If you've got the skills to modify them, or know someone that can/will without breaking the bank, then go for it.
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Old 11-16-2012, 04:50 PM   #24
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I'll b installing 4.56s. That's another reason why I got my 8.8, it was already set up with 4.56. When it's all said n done I'll have about a grand in my frontend but that's still Jesper than aftermarket. I found an Ected Max selectable for my 44 front for $550. Any input on their quality? Says its new still in box does that sound like a good deal?
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I don't have any experience with them, but clutch type limited slips don't tend to last long, and that's the Ected's default mode.

Personally, I'd opt for the Eaton E-locker or the Ox locker with the electric solenoid option.
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I'm to the point of installing upper control arm mounts on my truss and need some info/opinions. On factory mounts the bolt hole is 4 3/4 to 5 inches up off the axle tube. If I move that taller by an inch to inch n a half further off the tune will this cause geometry issues? I've got adjustable arms and 6" springs. This will open the the angle a bit but does anyone know if that will cause any problems?
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I don't have any experience with them, but clutch type limited slips don't tend to last long, and that's the Ected's default mode.

Personally, I'd opt for the Eaton E-locker or the Ox locker with the electric solenoid option.
Ur thinking of the Auburn E-locker...its a limited slip when not locked....the Eaton E-locker is an open diff when not locked...the real problem with them is that there only a 2 pin design not a 4 pin like the one for the Dana 30....I've herd that they're workin on one for the Dana 44 but haven't seen them on the market yet....

Now the Isuzu Rodeo Dana 44 is a better choice to pear with the 81 & up front Wagoneer 44 ....it is the same width, the same 6 lug built pattern and comes with disc breaks and a 456 r&p....
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Well here I am with the axle under the jeep. Been a long build but with work n lack of funds I've really not had time. I'm at the point if installing steering and looking for any suggestions. I've got a set of flat tops but haven't sent off to be drilled yet so as of now using the waggy knuckles. I've thought about using stock waggy tierod creating an inverted T style setup but have heard its not good. I've read a lot of posts complaining of a dead spot in the steering cycle with this setup. I also have thought about just buying some 1 1/2" Dom tubing and some heims and building draglink and tierod. Anyone know if this will work if I drill the holes where the tierods would go out to except a bolt. Any thoughts or opinions would be greatly appreciated.
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