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Old 01-01-2012, 05:27 PM   #1
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We finally have a rolling frame

I've been working on this '89 YJ ever since I bought it 4 months ago. I made all of the frame rust/rot issues go away, and have been working to get to the rolling frame stage. It's really just for drivetrain mock up only, but as an added bonus, it provides an extra jolt of motivation for me. It felt good to bolt on the tires and push it outside.
The next phase will be to get the engine, automatic, and transfer case together, and lower them into position, so I can figure out where things need to be.
I used Grand Waggy axles from an '86. This was my first SOA. Hell, its my first Jeep! I used the Tad Perches for the front, but instead using 2 round u-bolts on the diff housing, I used a flat bottom u-bolt on one side and ground a straight half round groove across the factory cast perch. It seemed like it would be a lot less grinding and fitting than if I were to use the round u-bolt.
Tires are Nitto Trail Grapplers, 37x12.50x17, on 17x9 XD Series Addict Machined.







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Old 01-01-2012, 07:53 PM   #2
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Looks great...I am about 4 months behind you with almost the same build...what springs are they?...where did you get the square u-bolts?.

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Old 01-01-2012, 09:34 PM   #3
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wish I had the time/money/patience/skill/shop to do a similar project.

Congratulations on your progress.
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Old 01-01-2012, 09:34 PM   #4
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Looks great...I am about 4 months behind you with almost the same build...what springs are they?...where did you get the square u-bolts?.
Thanks. I'm using Rubicon Express 1.5" SOA springs, p/n RE-1445-0. I bought 6 leaf packs for the front and rear. I went with the 6 instead of the 5 because I'm going to run an iron block/iron head V-8 with an automatic, a full cage and a full size spare. I could always pull a leaf if need be.
I bought the flat bottom u-bolt from Ruff Stuff. It's 3-5/8" wide (inside), normally used on Rockwell axles.
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Old 01-02-2012, 07:14 AM   #5
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Copperhead,

Nice job! What kind of paint are you going to use on your frame? Are you going to paint the insides of the frame?

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Old 01-02-2012, 09:36 AM   #6
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Nice job! What kind of paint are you going to use on your frame? Are you going to paint the insides of the frame?

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Thanks! I had the original portion of the frame professionally sandblasted, and they even blasted the insides of the frame as far as they could. Since the frame is essentially rust free, POR-15 or another similar product isn't needed here. BTW, the nasty appearance of the frame surface is from the Ospho that I sprayed on it when I brought it home from the sandblaster's, to prevent flash rust. Anyway, I'm at a crossroads as far as finish. I'm looking to get a quote on hot dip galvanizing the frame and skid plate. If that quote is too much money, then I'll spray it with two coats of DP90 epoxy primer, and spray the insides of the frame with Eastwood's internal frame coating. The exterior of the frame will be finished with a single stage black or charcoal gray.
Before I do all this, I first need to weld in the new front and rear shock mounts, anti-wrap crossmember, and the new engine mounts.
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Old 01-02-2012, 04:12 PM   #7
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Copperhead,Why are you changing the shock towers?..I have heard this done in a few threads...what is the upgrade/benefit?...Or are you referring to the lower tabs? Did you fab the spring perch's?
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Copperhead,Why are you changing the shock towers?..I have heard this done in a few threads...what is the upgrade/benefit?...Or are you referring to the lower tabs? Did you fab the spring perch's?
I haven't added upper rear shock mounts on the frame yet. I thought of cutting off the stock front shock towers and replacing them with hoops, so I can run a longer shock, and I can use shocks that don't have the top stud. It may be overkill, but if I'm ever going to add them, now is the time to do it. I also need to add shock tabs to the axles. I have a long way to go before this thing is ready to roll!
To answer your question about the perches, I used the MORE perches on the rear, and Tad perches up front.
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Old 01-03-2012, 03:15 PM   #9
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Great Job! Looks good. It appears there was some serious work done to the rear of the frame. I am doing a similar job now on a buddy's jeep. Do you have any pics of that repair for some ideas or even a small description on what you did? Thanks
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Old 01-04-2012, 12:30 PM   #10
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Great Job! Looks good. It appears there was some serious work done to the rear of the frame. I am doing a similar job now on a buddy's jeep. Do you have any pics of that repair for some ideas or even a small description on what you did? Thanks
Most of my frame was in great shape, except for the rear portion, which was heavily rusted and rotted through in many places. The best solution was to cut off the bad section and re-make it with new steel.


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Old 01-04-2012, 08:09 PM   #11
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This is heavy duty work you are taking on, Copper. Great job!
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Old 01-27-2012, 11:47 PM   #12
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This is looking awsome, do you have any updated pics ?
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Old 01-28-2012, 02:59 PM   #13
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This is looking awsome, do you have any updated pics ?
When I get a little further along with the build, I'll start a build thread here.
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if you have any more pics of your frame repair or details i would greatly appreciate it if you could email or start another thread. i am doing the same to my TJ but i purchased a rear section from a wrecked 03. im really interested in how you cut frame and kept everything relatively straight or as true to original as possible. looks great so far. heres some pics from my project or you can google search my build thread from jeepforum. "wasnt me: my 2000 weekend warrior"

my email is runtillupuke719@aol.com

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Old 04-12-2012, 12:27 PM   #15
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if you have any more pics of your frame repair or details i would greatly appreciate it if you could email or start another thread. i am doing the same to my TJ but i purchased a rear section from a wrecked 03. im really interested in how you cut frame and kept everything relatively straight or as true to original as possible. looks great so far. heres some pics from my project or you can google search my build thread from jeepforum. "wasnt me: my 2000 weekend warrior"

my email is runtillupuke719@aol.com

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I'll post new pics of the current state of my frame this weekend in this thread.
As far as how I kept things straight and true, I relied heavily on a factory YJ frame drawing that I found on the 'net, lots of clamps, and a level. I kept the rotted rear part of the frame that I had cut off, to use as a fixture when it came time to weld the pieces together. I'll include some pics to illustrate some of the techniques I used.
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Here is what my frame looks like at this moment.


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if you have any more pics of your frame repair or details i would greatly appreciate it if you could email or start another thread. i am doing the same to my TJ but i purchased a rear section from a wrecked 03. im really interested in how you cut frame and kept everything relatively straight or as true to original as possible. looks great so far. heres some pics from my project or you can google search my build thread from jeepforum. "wasnt me: my 2000 weekend warrior"

my email is runtillupuke719@aol.com

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Here are some pics of the rear frame section build. First, I made a drawing so I could figure out the dimensions and angles of all of my cuts. Some of the final dimensions ended up being a little bit different than what is on the drawing, and I never updated the drawing to reflect those changes. So a warning to everyone, don't trust this drawing.
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The first piece was welded to the existing frame.
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Looking good Copperhead...Nice with the highsteer on the knuckles...Can we get a pic of the traction bar setup on the rear?
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Looking good Copperhead...Nice with the highsteer on the knuckles...Can we get a pic of the traction bar setup on the rear?
Thanks, kmanator. The traction bar setup isn't complete yet. I still need to make the "shackle" plates, and the brackets to connect them to the crossmember. I'll do that once all of the weight is on the suspension, and the rear axle pinion angle is set.



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Any more progress in the last year on this build?
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Old 05-13-2013, 12:40 PM   #21
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WOW!..you have been busy..lookin good
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Old 07-23-2013, 12:26 PM   #24
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Thanks, guys!

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