The VR series look to be a really good deal. I`ve been looking at them as well and I would like to go with synthetic rope but it ups the price considerably. I think I like the 8,000lb size. If that won`t do it a snatch block will up the pull considerably so I don`t think 9,000lb or 10,000lb winch is called for. For under $500 a VR8000 seems like a great buy. Wish the synthetic rope didn`t add another $250.