joined with questions, from VA - Jeep Wrangler Forum
Jeep Wrangler Forum

Go Back   Jeep Wrangler Forum > Community Forums > WF New Member Check In

Join Wrangler Forum Today


Reply
 
Thread Tools

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on WranglerForum.com
Old 01-03-2012, 02:37 PM   #1
kps
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 37
joined with questions, from VA

I am looking at buying a Jeep Wrangler, a 94 model 4 cylinder, stick shift, a little over 150,xxx miles.

I do not have any experience with Jeeps, other than my boss having 2 Cherokees, & have helped fix a few problems.

I am in need of transportation, & really want 4WD, I am sick of loading 30+ cinder blocks in bed of my 2WD truck to make it to & from work. when it snows.

I need something with decent gas mileage, as it will be my main transportation, thats why I am considering the 4 cylinder one I found. I normally drive 30,000+ miles a year, & another 10,000 + miles on my bike

I do have some land I would like to be able to drive into & out of instead of hiking, but otherwise, no real off roading. not looking to upgrade power, or performance, relatively stock tires, with more agressive tread will do pretty much anything I need or want to do, I have driven 4 cylinder 2WD Toyota trucks for the last 20+ years, I need a change! my main bearings have a knock, & it is using oil, a quart every 200 miles, my alternator went out today, so its time to find something new. I will be swwapping batteries back & forth, to keep a charged one, until I park this truck.

I am used to getting 25 to 28 mpg, I dont drive hard, or aggressive, just commuting to & from work, & would like a little more traction in winter.

my boss makes it fine normally, & he has decent tires, but his cherokee is a 6 cylinder, automatic. he gets a best of 18mpg on trips, but commuting he averages 16mpg. & to work is all down hill, back home is all up mountains, which is the same as me, but different mountains & different county.

I had friends that wheeled when I was young, & I prefer stick shifts, manual locking hubs, which I have only seen a few cherokees with stick shifts, & most of those were 2WD, I like turning & knowing it is engaged, or its broke, & not wondering if it really is working. my bosses other Cherokee is his wifes, & has all season tires, & the 4wd hasnt worked in years, vacuum? & he says he will fix it when this cherokee he drives blows up & he gets his wife something else. his engine is knocking bad, but he wont replace until it blows, I am trying to find something before I am stuck riding my motorcycle.

my wife says to look for a GEO Tracker, or Samuari? they dont do anything for me, & always liked the looks of jeeps, but never owned one, almost did back in mid 80's a pinto converted Willys, lol, but decided against cause it didt come with a top, just a bikini & half doors.

so any advice? leave it? look at a Cherokee? or? my boss says to find a 5 speed 4 cylinder Cherokee, which I have only seen one, & it belongs to his main mechanic.

Thank you,
Randy

kps is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-03-2012, 02:44 PM   #2
Jeeper
 
Wrangler06's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Roanoke Virginia
Posts: 1,643
where at in VA?

__________________
Impact Orange 06 Wrangler SE 2.4l 6 speed
OME and Bilsteins, 31x10.50 Kelly Safari Tsr
Magnaflow Exhaust, Rustoleum Lined Tub, Hard Top, Full Doors
Wrangler06 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-03-2012, 02:49 PM   #3
Hardcore Jeeper
 
Peepers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Windsor, CT
Posts: 3,320
A friend of mine has one of those little suzuki trackers and gets around 25 mpg or better on the little 4 cyl 5 speed... You'll be lucky to see 18 mpg with a 4 cly with the kind of commute your talking about.
__________________
What have we got?
We have one heavily armed Recreational Vehicle


ΣΧ
The Power Tech 6
Peepers is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-03-2012, 03:19 PM   #4
kps
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 37
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrangler06 View Post
where at in VA?
between Stuart & Woolwine, & I work in Martinsville.
kps is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-03-2012, 03:25 PM   #5
kps
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 37
Quote:
Originally Posted by Peepers View Post
A friend of mine has one of those little suzuki trackers and gets around 25 mpg or better on the little 4 cyl 5 speed... You'll be lucky to see 18 mpg with a 4 cly with the kind of commute your talking about.
18? ouch, I hate riding or taking wifes truck anywhere, as well as she hates it too, hers gets 17 to 22 on a 4.3 liter V6 in a 2WD extended cab automatic we figure it gets 18, so we take my truck normally.

I would have figured 20 to 25 depending on how it is driven on the 2.5 liter?

Randy
kps is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-03-2012, 03:26 PM   #6
Jeeper
 
Wrangler06's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Roanoke Virginia
Posts: 1,643
im about 45 mins from martinsville...roanoke...if i were you i wouldnt get the old 2.5L 4 cylinder..the newer 2.4l which i have with a 6 speed is much better on power and mpg..but if you want power you want the 4.0L but then your gonna lose mpg and with a long commute its gonna hurt..try and find a 2.4L 6 speed like mine since youd rather have a manual and this 4cyl aint too bad i have a 2.5" lift and 31x10.50s and still get 18 or 19 steady in the city..have gotten as good as 20 or 21 on highway trips but it reads 18 cuz i havent put a new speedo gear in lol
__________________
Impact Orange 06 Wrangler SE 2.4l 6 speed
OME and Bilsteins, 31x10.50 Kelly Safari Tsr
Magnaflow Exhaust, Rustoleum Lined Tub, Hard Top, Full Doors
Wrangler06 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-03-2012, 03:30 PM   #7
In a trailer in the woods

WF Supporting Member
 
Barrie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Greater downtown Brownsville,Kentucky
Posts: 41,579
Send a message via AIM to Barrie Send a message via Yahoo to Barrie
Welcome
__________________
2006 Unlimited Soft Top


Skillfully disguised as a responsible adult


Barrie is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-03-2012, 03:58 PM   #8
kps
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 37
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrangler06 View Post
im about 45 mins from martinsville...roanoke...if i were you i wouldnt get the old 2.5L 4 cylinder..the newer 2.4l which i have with a 6 speed is much better on power and mpg..but if you want power you want the 4.0L but then your gonna lose mpg and with a long commute its gonna hurt..try and find a 2.4L 6 speed like mine since youd rather have a manual and this 4cyl aint too bad i have a 2.5" lift and 31x10.50s and still get 18 or 19 steady in the city..have gotten as good as 20 or 21 on highway trips but it reads 18 cuz i havent put a new speedo gear in lol
power isnt my main concern, I have hauled everything I ever needed to, including gravel with toyota trucks most of my life.

I do not drive automatics, as a rule, only one I own my wife drives, & I drive only when she is sick & we are in it, otherwise sticks shifts only, I really hate automatics thinking for me, wifes transmission like so many people with automatics cant make its mind up which gear it wants on several mountains, otherwise they do ok, plus when a clutch goes out, you can nurse it home, when an automatic goes out, you are sitting right there. also most "modern" automatics gain speed coming down mountains, & you have to either gear it down, orride the brakes, vintage automatics held you back going down hills just like a stick shift.

money is my main concern, or lack of, & have to finance anything I purchase, & pretty much have to file taxes to make a down payment.

I was reading & saw mention of neon engine? is that the style you have? as I have owned 4 Neons, as beater cars, 94, yes, a 94 they were really different compared to most other 95s, 2 normal 95s & a 96, & glad to not be driving them anymore.

I usually prefer older vehicles, pre-OBDII, if I could get a carb & point ignition I would, my truck is a 1985, & wifes is a 94, I have also had a 93, 86, & 84 Toyota truck, over the last 20 years. I am not fond of timing belts, or having to replace, the agravation isnt worth it to me, back when you could replace a belt in 30 minutes & not worry about valves hitting with non-interference engines, I didnt mind them.

my boss drives to fork mountain, I head up 57 to other side of mountain, of Stuart, but close to Fairystone, & then driveway is up side of a mountain.

Roanoke isnt very far at all. I usually head to Floyd, & over 221 to Salem to get to Roanoke.

Randy
kps is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-03-2012, 04:47 PM   #9
Jeeper
 
Wrangler06's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Roanoke Virginia
Posts: 1,643
yea my 2.4 is the same engine as the neon but with a 6 speed, incredibly easy engine to work on
__________________
Impact Orange 06 Wrangler SE 2.4l 6 speed
OME and Bilsteins, 31x10.50 Kelly Safari Tsr
Magnaflow Exhaust, Rustoleum Lined Tub, Hard Top, Full Doors
Wrangler06 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-03-2012, 08:33 PM   #10
Jeeper
 
Templar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Maryland
Posts: 1,616
Welcome to WF
__________________
2012 Wrangler Sport 4x4
Auto / 3.73 / Hard Top / Tint / Infinity Speakers
Power Convenience / Connectivity

U.S. Army 88 - 93
Templar is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-03-2012, 08:59 PM   #11
I am JD & It's my Dream

WF Supporting Member
::WF Administrator::
 
JDsDream's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: The Peach State
Posts: 27,079
Images: 4
Welcome to the Forum

2.5/4 or 4.0/6, the mileage difference isn't enough to justify the lack of power. If you are looking for 20+ it's probably not going to happen in a Wrangler.
__________________
The kind of woman that when my feet hit the floor each morning the devil says "Oh Crap, She's up!"

To All Of Our Forum Veterans and Active Service Members.
Our Debt To You Is Greater Than We Could Ever Repay.
Thank You

Become a Supporting Member!
JDsDream is online now   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-03-2012, 10:24 PM   #12
Jeeper
 
blkrubi88's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Clayton NC
Posts: 24,322
Welcome!
__________________
I can only please one person a day and today is not your day and tomorrow is not looking good either!



CHRIS
blkrubi88 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-04-2012, 07:36 AM   #13
kps
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 37
Quote:
Originally Posted by JDsDream View Post
Welcome to the Forum

2.5/4 or 4.0/6, the mileage difference isn't enough to justify the lack of power. If you are looking for 20+ it's probably not going to happen in a Wrangler.
total bummer. I really dig them, I saw a newer model listed last night, like a scrambler, reminded me of the old CJ8, I used to have a friend with a IH scout with the 1/2 top, & had the bed in back, but he didnt have any gas mileage with a 345, & 4 speed.

a car dealer had a CJ8 listed a few weeks ago, mint shape, & they wanted a mint for it too. growing up, what I wheeled in was a friends K5 blazer, that had a pickup roof welded in, with a big block 396, 3 speed in floor, & 33 mudders, that was fun, I do tend to like short cut off trucks like that, & the CJ8, & Scout, I saw a toyota in Lynchburg craigslist about 2 years ago that was 4wd, & had 14" removed from the bed, I loved the way it looked, but guy replied 1 time, & never gave me a way to contact him & money was alot better then than now.

one of my customers a older gentleman was a huge fan of the old 4 cylinder, he had 6 comanchees from his every day beater, to a under 40,000 mint one, he clained mid 20's he refused to own a 6 because of gas mileage, he died 2 years ago, & I have no way to contact his family to ask about the trucks, I know I saw one of his sons riding his old beater a few times. he always picked at me with my toyotas, for 10 or more years.

like I said I have no experience with the Jeeps, only Toyota trucks primarily, along with a few beater vehicles, & after 20 years driving Toyotas I need a change from everything, I know the 4wd sit taller & handle different, but everything is basically the same including the same dash.

Randy
kps is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-04-2012, 08:10 AM   #14
Trying to Get Lost

WF Supporting Member
 
jeffk42's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Orlando, FL USA
Posts: 1,036
Images: 4
For what it's worth....

Fuel Economy of 1994 Jeep Wrangler 4WD
__________________
2011 Jeep Wrangler Sport S [Photos]


jeffk42 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-04-2012, 08:33 AM   #15
Founder, ThumbJeeps

WF Supporting Member
 
sevenservices's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Mid-Michigan/Thumb
Posts: 3,952
yeah, the I6 and the 4 aren't much different on mileage either. The 6 has two more cylinders but the 4 has to work that much harder... either way you go, don't buy a wrangler for gas mileage! You have to buy it for the fun of it or you'll be kicking yourself in the a$$.

But I tell you, they're great. I love my 94', wouldn't trade it for anything.
__________________
-Chris
Founder, ThumbJeeps


1994 Wrangler YJ I6 4.0 H/O Auto 3 spd. 4" RC (33x12.5) (15x8) 3:54 Gears
sevenservices is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-04-2012, 01:07 PM   #16
Jeeper
 
Ageless Stranger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 26,792
Welcome to the forum.

Ageless Stranger is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Jeep Wrangler Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Questions Questions Questions! AtcoTrailsINC TJ General Discussion Forum 9 10-27-2011 04:35 PM
New owner With questions about 2011 Jeep Wrangler Sport Stock! jeep2011mass WF New Member Check In 43 07-19-2011 06:43 PM
New Member and some newbie questions SlowSpyder TJ General Discussion Forum 8 10-11-2009 10:43 PM
Joined this morning, have a couple questions whitebomber WF Site Help & Support 14 06-27-2009 03:56 AM
I Got One! Newbie Questions dak_quak JK General Discussion Forum 3 06-04-2009 11:00 AM



Download our Mobile App

» Network Links
»Jeep Parts
» Featured Product

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:47 AM.



Jeep®, Wrangler, Liberty, Wagoneer, Cherokee, and Grand Cherokee are copyrighted and trademarked to Chrysler Motors LLC.
Wranglerforum.com is not in any way associated with the Chrysler Motors LLC