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Old 12-27-2010, 03:51 AM   #1
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Hey I'm 19 almost 20 living in Kansas right now it is freezing. I am looking at getting a new vehicle next year hopfully around income tax time. Right now I am in a 07 Ford Ranger and love the size of it but its only 4X2 . Right now I am considering a 07-08 Chevy Silverado or GMC equivalent or a 07-08ish Wrangler. This vehicle would be my daily driver all year round 24/7. Right now I do not off road but would like to start light with stock and work from there. I live in a city and drive across town everyday (at night). I am single and dont have any kids (thank god). I haven't driven in one but have rode in one with the top down and doors off. It was AWESOME! But not sure if that would be a good daily thing.

Could you answer some of these questions to get me started?

1)I have to have a soft top no where to store the hard top. Is it a bother with the soft top in the cold and extreme hot summer?

2)Is highway and interstate travel annoying, I've heard its load but just how loud?

3)I want to removed the doors and top in the summer is it a pain to take them off and on all the time I've seen how you do it on youtube but yet again never done it.

4)I love the way they look and the fact they have been around forever is it hard to work on a newer model?

5)Does the limited space get annoying?

6)I live in town but like to do a lot of country driving for fun is the wrangler unconfortable in the city.

7)How long do these things last? I would have to keep it for a long time.

8)What are the major down sides. No power equipent doesnt bother me.

9)Have you ever had yours broken into?

10)What are the main reasons a person should get one and why did you get one?

11)Whats the makes like TJs, JKs, etc different?

Please keep in mind this would be my daily driver 24/7 365 a year.

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12)I also like to fish and hunt is there enough room for a say oh a shotgun, or rod and reel (and no the rod I use doesnt break down)? With top up?

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13)Whats your favorite thing and most hated thing about your jeep?
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Could you answer some of these questions to get me started? Sure

1)I have to have a soft top no where to store the hard top. Is it a bother with the soft top in the cold and extreme hot summer?
Never drop the soft top in winter. It's a pain to put back up. It shrinks. In summer, you have to weigh up the time it takes to drop the top to the travel time

2)Is highway and interstate travel annoying, I've heard its load but just how loud?
Not that loud. Depends on your surroundings

3)I want to removed the doors and top in the summer is it a pain to take them off and on all the time I've seen how you do it on youtube but yet again never done it.

Never taken the doors off. Being in Australia it's illegal to go on a government road without doors and a windshield.

4)I love the way they look and the fact they have been around forever is it hard to work on a newer model?
It's like any other vehicle really.

5)Does the limited space get annoying?
Yes. Are you after the two or four door models? I've had both. The two door models are more capable but lack space. I got an eight sleeper tent and equipment and I was removing seats.

6)I live in town but like to do a lot of country driving for fun is the wrangler unconfortable in the city.
No. Some of my friends are considering getting wranglers after a trip in mine.

7)How long do these things last? I would have to keep it for a long time.
Depends on how you treat it.

8)What are the major down sides. No power equipent doesnt bother me.
Depends: two door: space, options i.e. Lift kits, blind spots. Four door: turning circle, no power options, blind spots.

9)Have you ever had yours broken into?
Yes. It sucked

10)What are the main reasons a person should get one and why did you get one?
Fun. Need I say more. Oh and they are an awesome vehicle off road

11)Whats the makes like TJs, JKs, etc different?
Besides age, where do I begin?

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Anything can fit champ
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1)I have to have a soft top no where to store the hard top. Is it a bother with the soft top in the cold and extreme hot summer?
Temp extremes are not much different between tops.

2)Is highway and interstate travel annoying, I've heard its load but just how loud?
Not any louder than any other convertible. You'll hear wind noise, it's not a Lexus, but it's not a problem, especially if the top is down on a nice warm sunny day....

3)I want to removed the doors and top in the summer is it a pain to take them off and on all the time I've seen how you do it on youtube but yet again never done it.
Doors are easy once you get them off the first time... sometimes the first time can be a challenge. Storing them is the hardest part, but there are many options available... Mine spend most of the warm months in the dining room... Once you drive doorless, you'll wonder how you ever managed with them...

4)I love the way they look and the fact they have been around forever is it hard to work on a newer model?
JK's have more stuff to work on and around than TJ's, but as mentioned, they're no harder than anything else, and easier than lots of things out there...

5)Does the limited space get annoying?
Sometimes, but not enough to make me wish I didn't own it....

6)I live in town but like to do a lot of country driving for fun is the wrangler unconfortable in the city.
Nothing better too tool around town in

7)How long do these things last? I would have to keep it for a long time.
As mentioned, if you take care of it, it'll last nearly forever..

8)What are the major down sides. No power equipent doesnt bother me.
MPG's and storage, but as with anything, there is give and take. I'll take smiles over miles per gallon every day...

9)Have you ever had yours broken into?
No. Never leave anything you're not willing to loose in a vehicle..... Period.

10)What are the main reasons a person should get one and why did you get one? Goes any where, any time, with more style than anything else on or off road...

11)Whats the makes like TJs, JKs, etc different?
Years they were made, and lots of small stuff....

Please keep in mind this would be my daily driver 24/7 365 a year.
Ours are DD's as well.... Wouldn't have it any other way...
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Could you answer some of these questions to get me started?

1)I have to have a soft top no where to store the hard top. Is it a bother with the soft top in the cold and extreme hot summer?

No. The heater and AC work quite well to keep the cabin at a comfortable temperature.

2)Is highway and interstate travel annoying, I've heard its load but just how loud?

Very loud. But not as loud as a motorcycle

3)I want to removed the doors and top in the summer is it a pain to take them off and on all the time I've seen how you do it on youtube but yet again never done it.

Taking the top down and putting it back up was a complete pain in the rear the first couple times I did it...but after that its really very easy. You won't think anything of taking the top down once you get used to it.

4)I love the way they look and the fact they have been around forever is it hard to work on a newer model?

I have the older LJ (TJ Unlimited)...2006. Haven't had to do anything to it yet. Though I can tell you you'll need some torx bits.

5)Does the limited space get annoying?

I came from a 2002 Silverado extended cab. Thus far, have had no need for all that space, but I knew that going in...and frequently make trips on a motorcycle (compare two saddlebags and a back pack to any Wrangler and its like a mansion on wheels!). Your space requirements are going to be your own thing...depending on your lifestyle.

6)I live in town but like to do a lot of country driving for fun is the wrangler unconfortable in the city.

It rides rough (though I've heard the newer ones are better)...but its not that bad...I've owned worse. Around town the thing is a blast to drive.

7)How long do these things last? I would have to keep it for a long time.

I've seen plenty with well over 100,000 miles on the clock. Take care of it, it'll last.

8)What are the major down sides. No power equipent doesnt bother me.

Very little power, poor handling, rough ride, loud ride, terrible fuel economy, no security (if with the soft top)...

9)Have you ever had yours broken into?

Not that I know of...I leave the doors unlocked and nothing of value in it.

10)What are the main reasons a person should get one and why did you get one?

I wanted something smaller than my pickup that I could still take off road (after going over a very easy trail in Colorado with my family - Cinnamon pass - I was hooked)...and that was far more maneuverable in town. Also needed to be able to tow a small trailer in case I ever needed to take my bike somewhere. But between this and the Grand Cherokee I was also contemplating, the Wrangler was a LOT more fun (granted, has a lot more sacrifices that need be made on road).

11)Whats the makes like TJs, JKs, etc different?

Lots of differences...from looks to drivetrain to suspension. Test drive each...figure out which you like better for your needs.

12)I also like to fish and hunt is there enough room for a say oh a shotgun, or rod and reel (and no the rod I use doesnt break down)? With top up?

Well, I have the slightly longer LJ, but there's plenty of room in mine!

13)Whats your favorite thing and most hated thing about your jeep?

Favorite thing? How it feels when the going gets rough...thing feels like it'll crawl over anything

Most hated thing? I didn't wait to find a Rubicon OK, OK, all honesty its probably the lack of power compared to fuel economy. I can take getting 11 mpg in town...IF I've got decent power under the hood.
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1)I have to have a soft top no where to store the hard top. Is it a bother with the soft top in the cold and extreme hot summer?
That depends on who you ask. I have only a soft top. We had zero temps for a few days this winter, and it didn't bother me at all.
You can't use any of the top's zippers when it's too cold, or risk damaging your soft top.
My soft top doesn't fit quite right, and I have air leaks around the doors, as well as by the tailgate. I stayed plenty warm. The heaters in Jeeps put out VERY hot air.


2)Is highway and interstate travel annoying, I've heard its load but just how loud?
That's hard to describe to someone. The loudness of a soft top at high speeds does bother me to a point, but I just turn up the radio a little & ignore it. Other than that, I wouldn't say it's 'annoying'. You may want to track down a local Jeep club, and talk to them. I'd bet they would be happy to explain a few things in depth, and give you a few rides to show you what it's like.
3)I want to removed the doors and top in the summer is it a pain to take them off and on all the time I've seen how you do it on youtube but yet again never done it.
The soft top isn't hard to take off, or put up & down. After you do it a few times, you'll find it as easy as getting dressed in the morning.
The doors are VERY easy to get off. There are two nuts holding each door on, that's it.
I had my top off more than on last summer.


4)I love the way they look and the fact they have been around forever is it hard to work on a newer model?
No harder than working on a newer [insert other favorite brand name]

5)Does the limited space get annoying?
The limited space only bothers me when I'm packing for a long camping trip. (Again, the "unlimited" model will give you a bit more room, I drive a 99 TJ Sport)

6)I live in town but like to do a lot of country driving for fun is the wrangler unconfortable in the city.
I find my TJ to be one of the most comfortable vehicles I have owned (out of about 16 vehicles). I have stock seats, I'm 6', with very long legs.

7)How long do these things last? I would have to keep it for a long time.

8)What are the major down sides. No power equipent doesnt bother me.

9)Have you ever had yours broken into?
No. If a would-be thief has no incentive, he won't bother with your Jeep.
Keep EVERYTHING hidden. I rarely leave anything more valuable than a pair of gloves in my TJ.

10)What are the main reasons a person should get one and why did you get one?
I've wanted one since I was 5. Now I'm 40, this is my first Jeep.
11)Whats the makes like TJs, JKs, etc different?
There are a million differences between CJ, YJ, TJ, and JK. "Unlimited" is bigger than non-unlimited.
There are also differences between Sport, Sahara, and Rubicon trim packages, like engine options, transmissions, axles, and gearing.


Please keep in mind this would be my daily driver 24/7 365 a year.

Mine is a DD, 24/7/365.

I hope this helps.
Read up on the Forums, there are several for Jeeps. Check the "stickies" on the Forums, you can find many of the technical differences between models there, as well as many 'issues' that come up repeatedly in the Forums.

Lastly, welcome to the Forum Good luck choosing your new vehicle
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Thanks guys I want to test drive one since I have driven a pick up that I'm looking at and then make a list of the pros and cons and my personal needs and retestdrive each. But I've been looking on here and I dont think space would be a problem if I folded or removed that back seat... hmm look at me making excuses to try to get one lol
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Welcome to the forum bud.

What part of Kansas you in? Near Wichita? If so ...come test drive mine if you like.
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Thanks guys test drove a 09 X and it was awesome!!
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Thanks guys I want to test drive one since I have driven a pick up that I'm looking at and then make a list of the pros and cons and my personal needs and retestdrive each. But I've been looking on here and I dont think space would be a problem if I folded or removed that back seat... hmm look at me making excuses to try to get one lol
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Yeah when the back seat is out it'd actually got alot of room. I can get a big dog , bedding, camping gear ect I'm just fine.
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Hey I'm 19 almost 20 living in Kansas right now it is freezing. I am looking at getting a new vehicle next year hopfully around income tax time. Right now I am in a 07 Ford Ranger and love the size of it but its only 4X2 . Right now I am considering a 07-08 Chevy Silverado or GMC equivalent or a 07-08ish Wrangler. This vehicle would be my daily driver all year round 24/7. Right now I do not off road but would like to start light with stock and work from there. I live in a city and drive across town everyday (at night). I am single and dont have any kids (thank god). I haven't driven in one but have rode in one with the top down and doors off. It was AWESOME! But not sure if that would be a good daily thing.

Could you answer some of these questions to get me started?

1)I have to have a soft top no where to store the hard top. Is it a bother with the soft top in the cold and extreme hot summer?

Answer 1: I purchased a 2002 TJ softtop in upstate New York (think Buffalo . . . and snow) and my wife was worried about it being warm enough in the winter. Coldest day of the year I took her shopping. A quarter of the way there she asked if she could turn down the heat. HOWEVER, the Jeep had no A/C. We moved to Arizona, and I spent 3 years traveling during Monsoon (Summer, 114 degree temperatures) and used to wring out my shirt when I got home. My 2008 and 2010 Jeeps (consecutive, not concurrent) are/were both hard tops with freedom panels (removable front panels) and were/are great.

2)Is highway and interstate travel annoying, I've heard its load but just how loud?

Answer 2: TJs are loud, especially the soft tops, due to the stretch of the canvas. Hard tops (2008/2010) are not as loud. The 2010 (see avatar) came with "mudders" for tires, and I have no problem hearing the radio with the windows up (with them down there's both road and wind noise).

3)I want to removed the doors and top in the summer is it a pain to take them off and on all the time I've seen how you do it on youtube but yet again never done it.

Answer 3: I never completely removed the top on the TJ, simply dropped it and tucked it in. Total time to pull the windows and drop it, alone, took about 15 minutes. Same with putting it back up. Of course, that was after doing it a couple of times. The Freedom Panels are even easier on the JKs.

4)I love the way they look and the fact they have been around forever is it hard to work on a newer model?

Answer 4: I'm lazy, I let the service department do the work. I'm also not particularly mechanically inclined (standing joke: the only time I'm mechanically inclined is when I'm in a recliner)

5)Does the limited space get annoying?

Answer 5: TJs are limited in space, and can be annoying at times. JKs are 3 inches taller and 6 inches wider (also a bit longer, but I forget just how much) and much more spacious.

6)I live in town but like to do a lot of country driving for fun is the wrangler unconfortable in the city.

Answer 6: TJs are much more uncomfortable that JKs, from my experience. Most noticeable on longer trips (2300 miles in 5 days moving to Arizona). JKs are a Jeep that thinks it's a luxury car.

7)How long do these things last? I would have to keep it for a long time.

Answer 7: I've never had one long enough to find out, but I've seen even CJs out here on the road (and off-road, too). Like anything (and this more than most) a lot depends on how you take care of it.

8)What are the major down sides. No power equipent doesnt bother me.

Answer 8: Personally, I've not seen a down side except maybe lack of storage space in the 2 door TJs. But then, I'm an old truck driver (amongst many other things in my life)

9)Have you ever had yours broken into?

Answer 9: The TJ was broken into (window slashed, requiring my putting a whole new top on it). Hard tops don't have that problem.

10)What are the main reasons a person should get one and why did you get one?

Answer 10: Upstate New York, with all it's winter weather problems and a wife that drove 40 miles to work (and a daughter that goes from one disaster to another) caused me to be the family emergency vehicle. That, coupled with the fact that I'd been forced off the road by an oncoming vehicle in my lane popping up over a hill. Putting the Ford Bronco II onto the shoulder caused it to be on 2 wheels. (The same sort of situation, but with a sheriff's car, caused a TJ to NOT go up on 2 wheels.) Both times I was going 55 MPH when I hit the shoulder, and it was an abrupt maneuver. The stability is unreal.

11)Whats the makes like TJs, JKs, etc different?

Answer 11: The JKs are 3 inches higher, 6 inches longer, have softer seats and better sound system. They still have a great turning radius (my 4 door can make a U-turn in 3 lanes counting the one I start from and the one I end up in). There is more storage space both in the 2 door and 4 door models. Other than that, mostly the looks of the vehicle.

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ADDENDUM: I've never had the doors off, but with the JKs you need to pull cords as well as the doors. Depending on your state regulations, you may have to move a mirror OFF the door and onto the body to be legal to run it without the doors. Biggest reason that I've never run without doors is the lack of space to store them and the possibility of inclement weather popping up while they're off. Oh, and the problem of having grandchildren in the vehicle: no doors would make me extremely nervous in that situation.
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I'm going to cheat a little bit and only answer some of the questions that i feel more strongly about. Others have commented well and I don't really feel the need to repeat the same info.

2)Is highway and interstate travel annoying, I've heard its load but just how loud?

-mine has been suprisingly quiet, I actually thought it would be a lot worse. Maybe I am just lucky and got a top thats still very rigid. But for myself, at 65 I can still very easily listen to the radio or have a conversation with the passenger.

5)Does the limited space get annoying?

-as stated before, its really a lifestyle thing. For a 2 passenger vehicle, its GREAT. Take out the back seat and you have ample room for tents, coolers, sleeping bags... whatever. Traveling with more than 2 people and things really start to fall apart. Realize that if 4 people are in the vehicle, there will be literally NO extra room. Even one of those small coolers that hold like 8 cans of soda (beer) will be sitting on someones lap.

6)I live in town but like to do a lot of country driving for fun is the wrangler unconfortable in the city.

-I love it. I would take it over any fullsize vehicle, or even a 4 door car. One thing I'm suprised I've never seen commented on before is the crazy small turning radius that wranglers are capable of. I own a Honda CRX (tiny) and I think the turning radius might just be less than that car - I never thought I'd say that. If there ever was held a Parallel parking world championship, Jeep Wranglers would definitely be contenders. I have a blast every time I drive mine to the bank, or to drop off some mail - darting in and out of traffic like a person you'd possibly want to say bad words to.

8)What are the major down sides. No power equipent doesnt bother me.

-Lack of storage (see above)
-poor fuel milage, considering the relatively small size of the vehicle
-Absolute CRAP location and quality of the factory speakers, at least in the front. Maybe I'm biased because I own a stereo shop... but it doesn't get any worse than non-baffled off 4x6s.
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Oh do tell you guys lol. But when I test drove a 09 JK "X" it was sweet and loved it I just have to wait for money pretty much now.

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