Ok, new member but not new to Jeeps. Learned to drive a stick in CJ7 many moons ago and now after 2 CJ's, 4TJ's and 3JKU's with number 4 on order, here I am. Not really a hard core offroader, just like going topless in the woods. It's good that I am finally able to admit my problem in front of like minded folks. Seems like lots of good info here.