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Old 01-11-2007, 02:00 PM   #1
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Hey guys, im a proud ford owner. 95 f-350 with 35' m/ts. im thinking of possibly a year 2000-2004 Jeep wrangler. I have a post in the other forum and i dont want to flood this forum with a repeat post. My main question is, is the wrangler still reliable even after amc or chrysler took over?

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Old 01-11-2007, 02:46 PM   #2
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My experience has been great! 83k miles on my 03 sport. 2 trips a year to Florida and several trips to DC, Montreal and Boston from NYC. Never had a problem. I'm planning to keep it for at least another while till I can afford a brand new one. Get one!

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Old 01-11-2007, 03:15 PM   #3
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three words to convince you - Chicks Dig Jeeps.

(I can't answer your reliability question)
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Old 01-11-2007, 04:04 PM   #4
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I like the look of the wranglers that have the fender flares the same color as the rest of the truck. Is this only saharas or do the sports also have this?
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Old 01-11-2007, 04:26 PM   #5
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I think some of the guys have had success painting them. There was a thread with the instructions on how a couple weeks ago I think.
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Old 01-11-2007, 04:30 PM   #6
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Welcome to WF.
I can't answer your tech questions but I can answer your "CONVINCE ME!"
Go drive a jeep. If possible, drive it off road. (The testdrive for my first jeep included going off road. We had to go to a carwash before we could take it back to the dealer to sign the papers) Either you'll fall in love with it or you won't. IMO, jeeps speak for themselves.
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i have owned 2 jeeps and only one being a wrangler but my 1995 has 178,000 miles on the poor 4cyl pushing 33's and my previous jeep was an 89 cherokee with the I6 that had 245k on it i would say they are reliable, but since you are a ford guy i got one for ya, my 94 f-150 that hasnt seen much road time in 2 years has 273k on it. i some how manage to drive cars for a really long time (its all in the maintance)
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Old 01-11-2007, 06:30 PM   #8
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its not unheard of for the 4.0 enigne to go into the 2k miles range
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Old 01-11-2007, 08:10 PM   #10
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its not unheard of for the 4.0 enigne to go into the 2k miles range
That's true. I put 2000 miles on in a week once...
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Old 01-11-2007, 08:35 PM   #11
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Old 01-11-2007, 08:43 PM   #12
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I traded in my 156,000 mile cherokee in on a 06 unlimited and it came from the factory with the painted fender flairs. and I am positive you will get alot better gas mileage.(read your other post)
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Old 01-13-2007, 07:38 AM   #13
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Alrighty, yea i think i am going to go for the jeep!. My brother in law is one of those used car salesmen types, so he has access to those nifty secret car auctions. So hes going to look for a nice Jeep for me. What is the difference between the sport, se, x, sahara, and any other types? im still not sure what I should be looking for. If anyone has any help on that, I can better advise my brother what to look for.
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If you need convincing, then a jeep is not what you need. It's what's in you.
I agree with this statement! If you understand it, then a Jeep is what you need. With a Jeep, you can paint it or mod it anyway you want and it will still be a Jeep! The rule is there are no rules.

I even had a YJ with square headlights! I had over 150k on it when I sold it to my brother. I'm on my third Jeep in 25 years and I'll buy another in 10 years or so. If you buy one and decide you don't like it, you should always be able to sell it.

Are you looking for something to build up and wheel or just drive around on the street?
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Alrighty, yea i think i am going to go for the jeep!. My brother in law is one of those used car salesmen types, so he has access to those nifty secret car auctions. So hes going to look for a nice Jeep for me. What is the difference between the sport, se, x, sahara, and any other types? im still not sure what I should be looking for. If anyone has any help on that, I can better advise my brother what to look for.

The SE is a basic middle grade use vehicle. It will have the 4 cylinder with a weak tranny behind it and a rear Dana 35 axle. You don't want it.

The next is the X. I-6, couple more options and the possibility of the Dana 44 rear axle.

Next is the Sport. Excellent choice. Stay 2000 or newer. I-6, Nv3550 beefy tranny. Dana 44 rear axle with 3.73 gears. I bought a sport for my wife. But I hate fender flares.

Sahara has all the options of the Sport plus some. They have a 1" wider fender flare that is painted body color. If the wheelin bug gets ahold of you and you rub a tree the paint is gone. But if you want that option you either need to paint the flares or go with a sahara. Either or the sahara is a great choice for a wrangler.

Rubicon. Where to start?? If you plan to keep a jeep closer to stock then a Rubicon should be what you are looking for. Front and rear Dana 44s with deeper gears. Both have selectable lockers which is extremely nice. You get a 4:1 transfer case over all other models(2.72:1) Plenty of nice interior upgrades but no painted fender flares.

If I wanted to keep a jeep around a 4" lift and add some 35s then a rubicon is the way to go. If I wanted to go all out and make a really nasty rock whore then get the cheapest wrangler you can find
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i have a jeep. need i say more.
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Old 01-13-2007, 11:21 AM   #17
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its not unheard of for the 4.0 enigne to go into the 2k miles range
Man I hope that's 200k (94YJ with 55k).
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Old 01-13-2007, 11:22 AM   #18
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If you need convincing, then a jeep is not what you need. It's what's in you.
Ahmen. If you need convincing, you're not ready.
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Old 01-13-2007, 12:19 PM   #19
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well, by convincing, i dont mean that im unsure if i like them or not. All i mean is my family has brought me up to the tune that amc and any chrysler product is complete junk. However my brother in law whose going to the auctions to look for one for me say that the wrangler has been changed very little since amc got their hands on it. Ive always loved to off road and the only problem with my truck is i get that bad gut feeling every time i get done wheelin that i just hurt my truck alot. I hate that feeling and i just want to know that the next vehicle i get is reliable so that i dont have to constantly worry about babying it when im on the trails. Ive been in two jeeps before and i got to drive a 5 speed once, it seemed like a real cool ride. Comfort and all those high tech gadgets found on newer cars were never a major concern when i look for cars as one could tell by the last two cars ive owned (88 mustang gt, 95 f350 xlt). Thanks again for all the replies
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Old 01-13-2007, 12:21 PM   #20
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Mr. Clifford, i gotta thank you especially for giving a breakdown of the different models, that helps out ALOT. i think im going for either the sport or the sahara thanks man =). i realize that i probably dont want my flares painted cuz thats just another thing to worry about ;-)
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whoops, i meant 200k
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Old 01-13-2007, 09:49 PM   #22
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Nothing We Can Say Will Mean As Much As You Driving One...because Once You Do...then We Would Have A Hard Time Convienceing You Not To Get One.
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wait for the next good weather day in your area, and test drive a jeep, top down, doors off. you'll wanna buy it right then
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I have owned about 8 or 9 jeeps. All different models. Cj- xj zj tj etc. etc. Only major issue I had was with the Grand cherokee ABS brake controler, but other than that everything else was normal stuff that any car or truck might have happen. I had a Cj with 130k miles I drove 9 hrs wheeled and drove home. drove the Tj 13hrs wheeled it and drove home. Thus, go buy one.
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Welcome, fr87hn, to the forum. Our family has now had 5 Jeeps - two Wranglers and three Cherokees - and wouldn't trade any of them for anything different. Three are still in the family and serve as daily drivers as well as off-road vehicles. As mentioned in a previous response, once you take the top down, remove the doors and head out on a sunny day, you'll be "hooked." There's nothing like a Jeep for fun and reliability at the same time.
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Hey guys, im a proud ford owner. 95 f-350 with 35' m/ts. im thinking of possibly a year 2000-2004 Jeep wrangler. I have a post in the other forum and i dont want to flood this forum with a repeat post. My main question is, is the wrangler still reliable even after amc or chrysler took over?
This should convince you.

2000 Jeep TJ Sport Bought brand new from the dealership:
$21,000

Money spent on modifications over the past 7 years:
$3000 (totally just grabbed that outta the air)

Money spent fixing broken Jeep parts.
ZERO dollars. Priceless.


How much have you spent fixing that Ford? In 80K miles the ONLY thing that has broken was one of the stock sway bar connectors. I had already ordered JKS diconnects and they arrived the same day I broke it. I finally replaced my front brakes last year for $100. And I am still 70% on my stock rear brakes. At 50K miles I changed ALL the fluids and I do an oil change every 3K miles. I have changed my plugs one time. That's it.

Also, if you get a Wrangler with Wrangler GSA tires on it, replace them. They suck. BFG All Terrains are awesome and a comparable replacement.

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