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Old 04-27-2013, 12:20 AM   #1
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What is wrong with this Rubicon?

Hello all,

I am looking into buying a Rubicon but I am not sure about some details - I already gave some money down and told them to repair some items for me before we close. The guy owns a used car dealer and has repair people there in his business.

Facts: according to the vin number and carfax, this is a 2008 JEEP WRANGLER UNLIMITED RUBICON
Tires 255/75/17R

1) The Rubicon font looks different than the rest I've looked into online an in person

2) The fenders look too wide but more importantly, they don't look straight - it almost look like fallen puppy ears (see photos)
The guy selling it says he repaired it but still look a bit odd.
I know the "too wide look" will look better after putting wider tires... but still looks way too wide.
When I grab the fender and move it, it does not seem steady or tight like other fenders I tested in another car lot.

Any feedback is appreciated.

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PS: the last picture was taken after they repaired the fender for me.
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Man, forgive me, but I couldn't stop laughing and feeling bad for the jeep at the same time. What a weird set of emotions these photos provoked in me. Sad puppy is all I could think of, even before reading the same line from your post, and the things hadn't improve much after they "fixed" it. Who would do such a horrible thing to a jeep... Unbelievable!!!

Don't get it, it looks neutered, no offense. That's not an image a Rubi should portray. Unless you can get a huge discount and fix the problem yourself, but I doubt it's going to be easy. The bottom line, - those fenders have got to be straight. Also, it's missing a plastic piece right under the bumper, in case you care about it.

I've got to show these pics to my wife.

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Old 04-27-2013, 12:56 AM   #3
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10 bucks says that ain't no rubi lol
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Old 04-27-2013, 01:14 AM   #4
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Yeah, says Rubtoon on the hood. Is this a joke?
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Old 04-27-2013, 01:17 AM   #5
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Those fenders are the "bushwhacker pocket stile" fenders, and from the looks of it, it doesn't look like the right ones for that model year Wrangler.

Make them drop the price so you can get ones you like or make them put the stock fenders on. If it was me, I would have waled away from it. Does the "carfax" check out???
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Old 04-27-2013, 04:11 AM   #7
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If you have the vin let me have it and ill autocheck it for you and see what this "thing" is
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Those fenders look stupid as f***. Didn't know they had a Droopy Dog edition. Depending on how much they are asking i'd get them to drop the price and replace them myself or have them replace them. If the price isn't right i'd walk away.
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You say that he vin says it a rubi, but the sticker on the hood is not the oem rubi sticker. Why would someone take of the original sticker and put the goofy looking one on? Hood repainted? Why would someone put those huge fenders on? Wrecked and they were doing a budget fix and had these laying around? Hope you get a good warranty if you buy this poor thing
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As stated by others, the Rubi sticker is not original. It is either not a Rubi w/ a fake sticker or has been wrecked and doing a cheap fix, IMO. The only way I would by a used car or Jeep in this case, would be by private seller or from a true car dealer. I would never purchase a vehicle from one of these shade tree dealers. Way to many Jeeps out there to choose from, let this one sit and find one without a bunch of questions. Happy hunting and welcome to the forum.
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Old 04-27-2013, 04:28 PM   #15
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Thank you for your comments. I have an update and some facts I want to share.

The Jeep was obviously in an accident that yes, they did a cheap job and put that ugly Rubicon paint job on the hood.

I am getting a big discount because of all the things I found in it.
Wipers were old, back tires are really bad (I am getting brand new tires and rims - I think they are 315/75/17) - I'll confirm and share with you all and post pics too.

Before my post here, I asked him to "erase" that ugly Rubicon paint job, yes, it was painted, not a sticker. Unfortunately, if you get really close, you can still see that ugly font that was there before.

After I read your comments, I called the seller and told him I was not happy with the fenders and he is going to replace them by thinner ones (same style because the ones in the back are in perfect condition and we want them to match)

Other details:
1) About a week ago, I test-drove the Jeep at about 75 miles per hour in the highway and it felt ok.
2) I have the Carfax report and it says it is a 2008 Rubi (2008 JEEP WRANGLER UNLIMITED RUBICON)
3) Also, according to the web, vin numbers with "6" in the sixth digit indicates its a Rubi (but I believe Carfax it is already telling the truth)
4) Thanks for pointing the missing plastic- I'll see if I can get it from the seller too.

Anything tips/suggestions are welcome. This is going to be our first Jeep so we don't know much about them.
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I hope you get this Jeep for cheep. Just don't wan't you to buy a bad Jeep and then hate Jeep for that.

If the new tires will be 315/75/17 you will have clearance problems without a lift and wheel spacers. It doesn't look like this Jeep got any lift on it now. Just keep that in mind.
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Personally I would keep looking. Sorry just my opinion.
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X2 that thing looks like a death trap waiting to happen.
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I hope you get this Jeep for cheep. Just don't wan't you to buy a bad Jeep and then hate Jeep for that.

If the new tires will be 315/75/17 you will have clearance problems without a lift and wheel spacers. It doesn't look like this Jeep got any lift on it now. Just keep that in mind.
I am getting it for a great price. Now, when it comes to spacers and lifting, how much does that cost?
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Bought mine new and have already have lived through death wobble. I only have 36,000 miles on mine. That should be a big concern for you. My lift was about $1,000 installed. Your decision think about it carefully. Check front end very carefully. Have a mechanic check it too.
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I am getting it for a great price. Now, when it comes to spacers and lifting, how much does that cost?
Seems you need to some more research before you even think of putting those tires on.
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Is it just me or in the pictures does the driver side wheel looked turned an the passenger doesn't? Just something looks wrong on the front end
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Seems you need to some more research before you even think of putting those tires on.
No worries, seller has not purchased the tires yet. I'll bring up the height thing before we do put any tires.

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Sounds like they don't know what their doing to begin with so I doubt they have any clue about that.
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Welcome to the forum!!! Find another Jeep there are many out there that don't look so sad.
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Is it just me or in the pictures does the driver side wheel looked turned an the passenger doesn't? Just something looks wrong on the front end
Probably why the front tires look new, and the rear tires are shot. Put newer tires on the front to hide the problem, Fronts were probably really chewed up . Fellow seems to be looking for a reason to buy despite all the cautious comments
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To OP: Walk away... seriously, don't let desperation take ahold of you. Really, you don't want that if you have any common sense.
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To OP: Walk away... seriously, don't let desperation take ahold of you. Really, you don't want that if you have any common sense.
Thanks for your words of concern. Your input and the rest have me re-think this whole thing.
Something good came out of this forum, which is rare out in cyberspace.

Keep your eyes open for a future updates.

There is something very particular and special about Wranglers not found in any other American or foreign-made vehicles.

Again, thanks to you and the rest.

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