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Old 01-10-2012, 11:30 PM   #1
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Hey, I'm new here. I'm not going to lie, I don't own a Jeep. Nor have I ever owned a Jeep. I've loved Wranglers ever since I was little and I plan on getting one here in the near future. I really joined here because I need information and help from "been there, done that" guys who know what they're talking about. I would like to create a monster...hence the title of the thread. In my head I have created this beast and I want to make it come to life. I would like to know that it will work before I spend a ton of money and end up with a pile of Jeep parts on the floor. What I am envisioning, is a Wrangler (haven't decided on year, and as far as I know, it wouldn't matter) 100% rhino lined body (inside and out), 3" lift, 35" tires, fender flares, brush guard, off-road lights, winch, and hi-lift jack mounted on the back. All of this, I can easily do myself. My ability for labor is not in question here. Where my knowledge stops is an engine swap. I know that V8 Hemi engines have been put in Wranglers. My idea, is to put a Cummins engine into my future Jeep. I read online that the 6.7L Cummins diesel is too big to fit the engine bay, however, the 5.9L Cummins will fit. I need confirmation of this. Also, any chance of a manual transmission bolting up without problems? I'm not planning on going cheap and using my redneck ingenuity and turning this into a Jeep/Cummins/Duct-tape abortion. My plan is for a crate engine. Preferably, no junk yard parts at all. It will cost me a good sum of money to get all the required parts, I know, but the beast that will be unleashed upon completion will be completely worth the money, time, blood, sweat and tears that I will put into it. Any ideas on where I might begin researching on fitting these parts together, as well as where to find decent, inexpensive parts? Any help that can be offered would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance.

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Welcome to Wrangler Forum Mooseboy

That does sound an awesome project you have in mind. The main thing to look for when looking for an older Jeep is to make sure there isn't too much rust if any at all. Depends on what part of the country you are in. After that, you would be money ahead to try to find a used Rubicon, as it will already have the axles you would need for that kind of motor setup.

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Old 01-11-2012, 12:07 AM   #3
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x2 on finding a rubicon...jeeps other than rubicons come with dana 30 front axles and dana 35 rear axles which for 1) will not stand up to 35" tires and 2) will not hold up to a cummins motor....if your gonna do a cummins id look into a 4bt...4cylinder cummins turbo diesel..and as far as lift goes youll need more than 3" to fit 35s unless you get high clearance FENDERS not just fender flares.....so anyways id look for a rubicon as they have dana 44 front and rear axles...if not there is a very small chance you could find a Sport edition which SOME of them cama with dana 44 rear ends..as far as the tranny goes im not sure what would match up with the 5.9L..but if you go with a 4bt do a search towards the top right corner of the home page and just search 4bt swap i know there are a couple of threads around here with tons of info on them....

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Old 01-11-2012, 12:31 AM   #4
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Thanks for the input! I'm taking notes! Already, lots of valuable information.
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ahhhhh... i would not use rubicon axles behind a cummins 6bt.. thats just asking for trouble.. the 6bt swap is no easy undertaking, as the 1/4ton frame will need to be beefed up for that motor.. also you might look at using GOOD axles like a sterling 10.25 rear and d60 front.. else you'll end up spending more money constantly fixing the weak rubicon axles..
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ahhhhh... i would not use rubicon axles behind a cummins 6bt.. thats just asking for trouble.. the 6bt swap is no easy undertaking, as the 1/4ton frame will need to be beefed up for that motor.. also you might look at using GOOD axles like a sterling 10.25 rear and d60 front.. else you'll end up spending more money constantly fixing the weak rubicon axles..
which is why i suggested a 4bt..6bt is outrageous for a tj imo
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Old 01-11-2012, 08:32 PM   #14
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even 4bt, i wouldnt run dana 44s with that either..

also if you arent a ford fan go with a GM 14 bolt too btw.. not trying to rule that one out..

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