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Old 11-01-2011, 06:22 PM   #301
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what does the 12k with steel line weigh vs. the
8k with steel line ? any difference to fuss over ?
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Old 11-01-2011, 07:32 PM   #302
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Easy install did it in like 2.5 hours. Plate an winch. Only issues were bolts for fair lead didn't fit so I had to drill them out some on the plate. And the wiring diagram has the black wires reversed but the actually directions had them right. Tool me a good half hour to figure it out haha. Tested her our and she works great, very nice. Just gota learn how to wind the wire straight now I was son OCD about that. Thanks Chris !
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Old 11-01-2011, 07:36 PM   #303
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Easy install did it in like 2.5 hours. Plate an winch. Only issues were bolts for fair lead didn't fit so I had to drill them out some on the plate. And the wiring diagram has the black wires reversed but the actually directions had them right. Tool me a good half hour to figure it out haha. Tested her our and she works great, very nice. Just gota learn how to wind the wire straight now I was son OCD about that. Thanks Chris !

Lookin good! I had to drill out my fairlead holes on the Smittybilt plate, too. The powder coating was too thick was the only problem.

As far as winding... take your time and keeping tension, working from side to side.
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Old 11-01-2011, 07:54 PM   #304
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I was told to attach the winch to something then let the winch pull your jeep up a hill. It needs to be spooled under pressure right?
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Old 11-01-2011, 08:23 PM   #305
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yes... out of the box it is wound loose. free spool it out, but leave 4-5 wraps on the drum. hook up on an incline or let the e-brake drag a bit to give a tight wrap if you are going solo on flat land ( preferably dirt). It does help to have a 2nd person... that way you can guide the rope onto the drum uniformly while the other is behind the wheel. DON'T GET TOO CLOSE TO THE FAIRLEAD WITH YOUR HANDS.....ALWAYS USE GLOVES
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Old 11-01-2011, 08:48 PM   #306
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^^ thank you very much! I will do that when I get the install done.
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Old 11-01-2011, 09:18 PM   #307
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Newb question: what advantages does the synthetic line have over the cable to cost more? Is it worth it?
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Old 11-01-2011, 09:44 PM   #308
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^^ thank you very much! I will do that when I get the install done.
anytime....
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PM'd OP but no response.... interested in the 9K winch with synthetic rope!
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Old 11-01-2011, 10:03 PM   #310
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Yep. Well I'm gona get the full line spooled out this week sometime but just wanted to test it for today. Did about 15 feet worth and keep it winding straight. It was pulling my jeep easily Nd wraps were All good but one. I am still mastering letting the line out. It seemed like as soon as I disengaged the clutch the whole spool was unwinding. I guess that's why I news to realspool it. Yes I drilled the fair lead holes from 7/16 to 15/32 and it worked. Did anyone else notice the discrepancy in the directions ? Otherwise I thought they were very good.
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Old 11-01-2011, 10:05 PM   #311
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Oh and how do you guys prefer to attach to trees, tree strap or use regular heavy duty tow strap wrapped ? I just used my strap today and it seemed fine but that's a lighter weight
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Oh and how do you guys prefer to attach to trees, tree strap or use regular heavy duty tow strap wrapped ? I just used my strap today and it seemed fine but that's a lighter weight
i have a shorter 8 foot long by 4 inch wide strap that i use around trees,,, works awesome. i also have a 40 footer ,,, just in case.
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Old 11-02-2011, 06:29 AM   #313
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I also use a 4" strap on trees, rocks or whatever I can get my strap around when I need it. I carry (4) 4"x 20' straps on every trip..just in case.

BTW.... in case ant of you don't have one yet.... invest in a 20k snatch-block. you can double your winch capacity and redirect your line pulls. There are good ones out there for under $30 and over $100... you pick....I went good and cheap!
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I was waitin on next paycheck for the snatch block, already have one or two picked out

and the strap I use for recovery is 3 or 4 inches, and I have used it in duel vehicle recovery before so, I think it should be good enough. I definitely would not use a rope.
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Old 11-03-2011, 06:39 PM   #315
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Where did you find a snatch-block for that price?

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I also use a 4" strap on trees, rocks or whatever I can get my strap around when I need it. I carry (4) 4"x 20' straps on every trip..just in case.

BTW.... in case ant of you don't have one yet.... invest in a 20k snatch-block. you can double your winch capacity and redirect your line pulls. There are good ones out there for under $30 and over $100... you pick....I went good and cheap!
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Old 11-03-2011, 08:45 PM   #316
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Check amazon.
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Old 11-03-2011, 09:38 PM   #317
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Call him up, his number is on the first page first post.
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Old 11-06-2011, 09:50 AM   #318
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Does anyone (Chris?) have a picture of the TJ specific winch plate mounted? I'd like to see what it looks like compared to some of the others.
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Old 11-06-2011, 05:05 PM   #319
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My Smittybilt Raised plate was made for both a YJ and a TJ...both bolt patterns were there and extra bolts for the YJ. Sorry .... no pics.
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That's the Jeep specific plate that we're offering right now for $45 when you purchase these winches.

Looks like you guys and gals have gotten pretty savvy about these winches lately. I'm impressed! Here's a good article on steel vs synthetic lines. And yes, we still do offer Viking line for those who want to upgrade their steel cable on their current winches.

Why switch from Steel Cable to Synthetic Winchlines? Safety, Strength, & Ease of Handling - 4x4Wire.com

In the attachment below is what the winch plate should look like mounted.
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Old 11-09-2011, 09:38 AM   #321
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are the winches still at the sale price from the beginning of this thread? is there a layaway program? could I already be a winner??
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Got my winch from Chris and it works great. Does anyone put a cover on these winches and do you sell them Chris?
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Old 11-09-2011, 10:05 PM   #323
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Finally got time this evening to install mine.




Couple notes:
- I turned the control box mount 90* so that the leads weren't hitting the grill. Of course the holes are 1cm different, nothing a drill and some elbow grease couldn't fix (and some RTV to seal the stock holes). It would have been neat if Engo had thought of this and made the holes the same distance apart as they are front to back (so I wouldn't have had to redrill).
- the hot lead to the battery is short. Luckily I had some stuff left over from my car stereo days.
- install the ground wire *before* you mount the winch because it's a battle to do it in the .75" clearance in there (I have fat fingers)
- install the control box first too (after you've figured out if you're going to need to rotate it or not)
- the holes in the fairlead are too tight on the supplied bolts and it was impossible to get a socket or wrench in there. I ended up using a screwdriver as a wedge to hold the bolt while I tightened it, but that chewed up the aluminum a bit. Mill those holes a wee bit bigger please
- I wish that Engo had not pre-crimped the rings on the wires. I'd prefer a bit more wire ($ I know) and to be able to cut the wire to the length I need for a cleaner install.

Speaking of the wiring. I wired in a fuse. I'm not a fan of wiring to the battery with a fuse. Any idea on the amps this will pull so I fuse it appropriately? I also tend to NOT wire the negative to the battery, but I did in this case since I didn't have a lot of room to wire in a good ground on the frame.
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Got my winch from Chris and it works great. Does anyone put a cover on these winches and do you sell them Chris?
+1. I think a cover would be a great addition to help protect the line from road gunk.
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Old 11-10-2011, 06:11 AM   #325
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I'm thinkin the same thing about a cover.... I went over Donner Pass ( Lake Tahoe ) last weekend and I had to unspool, clean and respool with all the road sand they use here instead of salt when the roads get bad.

A nice Engo cover would be nice... (hint, hint)
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Engo does not make a cover yet and doesn't have any plans to. At least that what I got from Chris. Your best bet is to buy an off brand cover but I did some research on covers. It seems people use them 50/50. Some people say not to do it cause it traps in moisture, dirt, and salt. Others say to use it for obvious reasons. The people that don't run it have said they've run their winches for years without a cover and they still hold up fine. They are made to be in the elements so I guess we'll see how mine does on its first winter. I believe Rugged Ridge or smitty make the cheapest cover on amazon.com
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On a side note, my first respool under pressure went well at first but then towards the end it looked like a train wreck! I can't fix it at the moment is the wire not sitting all nice and pretty on itself going to hurt anything?
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On a side note, my first respool under pressure went well at first but then towards the end it looked like a train wreck! I can't fix it at the moment is the wire not sitting all nice and pretty on itself going to hurt anything?
As long as you don't have it binding or bent anywhere, it won't hurt anything as long as you don't use it. However, before you use the winch, you want to respool it correctly, if it isn't, then you are more likely to break the line since the stress applied to wire where it overlaps another piece is greater than if it's spooled cleanly. So not only does it affect appearance, but it does affect the strength of the wire. I would fix it ASAP, otherwise you will wear that pattern into it.

On a side note, you should see someone spool a drawworks (winch used on oil rigs to lift the drilling pipe). The line is normally 2.5" or thicker in diameter and they use sledge hammers to beat the line into place.
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holy crap! haha that must be terrible! I just hate doing it under pressure. I gotta do this out in the parking lot on campus haha it's just awkward.
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After reading this thread,it appears that you are the man chris.I will be in touch when i'm ready(Because every married man knows if follow the rainbow it leads right to the wife's purse)
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