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Old 07-10-2013, 05:18 PM   #91
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I went aluminum to save weight. Steels weight like 28lbs each. Aluminum is 10lbs each. I don't think see the aluminum realling "caving" because of impact.
Can I leave them bare alum or do I have to paint them?Will the bare alum tarnish or discolor?
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I don't know if it'll tarnish/ discolor, but it can be left alone. Here's a link to a review that Jerry Bransford did about the aluminum DeFenders when they had just come out. He left them bare.
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/pois...ew-164429.html

Here's a link to my thread when I installed them. In the thread, Jerry mentions leaving his bare. You may reach out to him, and see how they've held up. Jerry is a great source of info, by the way.
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/adde...rs-243912.html
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1jeeplvr, over time the aluminum will "dull" a little bit from oxidation. But you can polish them periodically if you want them shiny. Or you can "line-grain" them with scotch-brite if you want a brushed look. If you live in an area where they salt the roads in the winter, I'm not sure what the salt will do.
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When using the negative flare for a tj will I need to cut through the hood latch bracket under the fender well or do I leave it?
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When using the negative flare for a tj will I need to cut through the hood latch bracket under the fender well or do I leave it?
You cut through it. It is no longer needed.
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Old 07-11-2013, 06:47 PM   #96
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1jeeplvr, over time the aluminum will "dull" a little bit from oxidation. But you can polish them periodically if you want them shiny. Or you can "line-grain" them with scotch-brite if you want a brushed look. If you live in an area where they salt the roads in the winter, I'm not sure what the salt will do.
Thanks for that info.I do live in a salt area but my TJ is garaged for most of its winter down time/modification time. Ive looked at a LOT of fenders & I love the defenders.Best looking fenders out there,and the spider insert is wayy cool.
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Old 07-11-2013, 06:49 PM   #97
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Here's a few shots of my '03 TJ with Aluminum DeFenders (3" flare), Ricochet Rockers, Crusher Bolt-on Flares, BFH front bumper, and Bombshell cover.



Did you just use a rattle can or have the fenders professionally painted? Im torn on paint,it will just get all scratched up.Im torn.Love your Jeep btw,looks good
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Did you just use a rattle can or have the fenders professionally painted? Im torn on paint,it will just get all scratched up.Im torn.Love your Jeep btw,looks good
I had them powder coated locally. It's hard to tell in the pics, but they have a slight texture to them. Thanks for the compliment.
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Old 07-30-2013, 10:54 AM   #99
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Our standard TJ DeFenders (non-highline) are now available with 3" Tapered Flares. This is the style of flare used on our 3" YJ DeFenders as well as the TJ "highline" DeFender XC's. Ever since introducing both of those products we've had requests for a similar style for the standard TJ DeFenders, so here they are, in either STEEL or ALUMINUM!



I don't have any photos of them installed on a TJ yet but here are a couple shots of the YJ version to give you an idea what they look like mounted up:





The DeFender™ with 3" Tapered Flare was designed for maximum performance in several aspects. First, it provides the same splash protection of our regular 3" flare, keeping mud and debris from splashing up onto the side of the Jeep. But rather than having a straight side, the edge of the flare tapers inward toward the front of the Jeep, in a line parallel to the tapered edge of the hood. In this manner it tapers from 3" at the back, to about the same width as our "Zero Flare" at the front, providing the same great clearance for articulating tires and tight trails that our Zero Flare provides. DeFenders™ are also available in standard 3" Flare, Zero Flare and Negative Flare versions.
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Old 07-30-2013, 06:23 PM   #100
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We've had a few inquiries about the Inner Fender Kit for the standard height TJ DeFenders. We just test-fit the first articles today and they fit great, with only a couple of minor adjustments needed. These should be available very soon.

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Old 07-31-2013, 07:21 PM   #101
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Will my stock inner fenders work withe the Defenders?
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Will my stock inner fenders work withe the Defenders?
Yes. That's what they were originally designed for. Feel free to download the install instructions from our website if you'd like to take a look at the process.
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Yes. That's what they were originally designed for. Feel free to download the install instructions from our website if you'd like to take a look at the process.
Nice,thanks
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OK here are the first installed photos of the standard height (non-highline) TJ DeFenders with 3" Tapered Flare. This is an install we're doing here, so I should be able to post some finished shots after they've been painted and reinstalled. But here they are bare, for those who've been waiting to see them installed on a TJ...







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Old 08-13-2013, 06:31 PM   #105
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Must you come out with something new,just when I had my mind made up you go ahead & pull this crap.
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Old 08-30-2013, 11:01 PM   #106
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Perfect timing! Hopefully everything will work in my favor and I will be ordering a set of these in the next week or so.
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Old 09-18-2013, 12:48 PM   #107
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The TJ DeFender standard height (non-highline) Inner Fender Kits are now available! Now you can do a complete DeFender installation without having to retain and cut the stock inner fenders.









We've installed them on several TJ's with different configurations so far. And what we can say at this point is that we've been able to find a home for everything under the hood, with these installed. Even the stock air box. In the first two shots below, with the stock air box, you can see we had to tweak the grille support rod a bit. But that's because that particular Jeep has a tall coilover shock mount located directly underneath the air box. With a stock shock mount it shouldn't be a problem.





A few more under-hood shots on another rig...







The TJ DeFender Inner Fender Kit may be ordered directly from Poison Spyder or through any of our Authorized Poison Spyder Dealers.
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Any Jeep Wrangler Forum member discount on the Defenders with the purchase of the inners as well?
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Any Jeep Wrangler Forum member discount on the Defenders with the purchase of the inners as well?
Sorry there are no current promotions or discounts on these.
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Old 09-19-2013, 05:08 PM   #110
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Some completed (painted) installed photos of the TJ DeFenders with 3" Taper Flare (standard height):





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Are the alum ones going to hold up well with rock contact?
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Are the alum ones going to hold up well with rock contact?
Most likely not. It depends on what you mean by "rock contact", but to be honest the aluminum ones aren't really what we would consider "armor". Its just not as strong as steel, it gouges easier, and it will break easier at the seams where it is welded together, since it is more brittle than steel. Sure they will probably do fine in a non-violent lean into a canyon wall, and the occasional light tap and scrape. But they're definitely not going to take a huge hit and survive. Just keepin' it real.
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Most likely not. It depends on what you mean by "rock contact", but to be honest the aluminum ones aren't really what we would consider "armor". Its just not as strong as steel, it gouges easier, and it will break easier at the seams where it is welded together, since it is more brittle than steel. Sure they will probably do fine in a non-violent lean into a canyon wall, and the occasional light tap and scrape. But they're definitely not going to take a huge hit and survive. Just keepin' it real.
Thanks for the honesty.
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What about cutting up the inner fender,are the instructions pretty clear where to do the cutting? Thats the only part that worries me.
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Poison Spyder DeFender Inner Fender Kits are now available in a VENTED version. The Vented inner fenders help promote airflow through the engine bay, which can be important for slow-moving crawlers in hot climates. The Vented Inner Fender Kit is identical to our regular "Solid" Inner Fender Kit, except that the main center panel has a honeycomb vent pattern that has been CNC laser cut into it.



The vented panels are available in a complete kit for those doing a new DeFender Inner Fender Kit installation. The vented panels by themselves are also available separately for those who already have an existing DeFender Solid Inner Fender Kit installed, but would like to convert to vented.



TJ DeFender™ Vented Inner Fender Kit
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TJ DeFender™ XC Vented Inner Fender Kit
TJ DeFender™ XC Vented Inner Fender Panels

These are available directly from Poison Spyder or through any of our Authorized Poison Spyder Dealers.
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What about cutting up the inner fender,are the instructions pretty clear where to do the cutting? Thats the only part that worries me.
1jeeplvr, I haven't been in this thread in a while and just now noticed that I had never answered this for you. Sorry about that! Anyhow, on the remote chance that you're still waiting for an answer 9 months later: yes I believe the installation instructions are pretty clear. But you can download them and decide for yourself. The instructions for any of our products can be downloaded right from that item's page on our website. The instructions include detailed photos and procedures for cutting and re-using the stock inner fenders. Of course you also have the option of simply using one of our Inner Fender Kits, in which case you simply unbolt the entire stock outer/inner fender assembly (no cutting).
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It figures yopu would come up with even cooler fenders now I have mine lol.
Heres mine installed





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Well those look awesome. I ordered mine from another site and never got the option, kind if curious what mine will show up with. Likely the plain panels. 4wd doesn't even have the Al xc in stock to ship me anyways though... Hopefully they get them soon so I can get this all installed!
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