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Old 01-03-2014, 01:15 AM   #121
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Not at all. These are the real deal... 4x10W LEDs... brighter than hell with a really nice pencil (spot) beam. Aurora lights are not like anything you're seeing on eBay. Aurora ALO-2-P4T = 40W Spot = 3200 lumens Rigid Dually = 20W Spot = 1300 lumens
. Paleh0rse can you please assist me in finding out how to purchase an aurora similar to the D2. I tried shooting you a PM but it said your over your quota.

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. Paleh0rse can you please assist me in finding out how to purchase an aurora similar to the D2. I tried shooting you a PM but it said your over your quota.
check your messages, should be all fixed now.

The model you're looking for is the ALO-2-D1C; which, in terms of driving beam pattern, is directly comparable to the Rigid D2 -- the Aurora just has more lumens!

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Here's a photo of one of the new 40W Spots (ALO-2-P4T) I received last week: (sorry for the lousy cell phone pic)
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Here's a photo of one of the new 40W Spots (ALO-2-P4T) I received last week: (sorry for the lousy cell phone pic)
do you know if they are compatible with the rigid dually JK fog light bracket?

this one Rigid Industries 40138 - Rigid Industries Fog Light Mount Kit for 07-14 Jeep® Wrangler & Wrangler Unlimited JK with D Series Lights - Quadratec
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Really not sure since I haven't tried. Maybe?
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Here's a photo of one of the new 40W Spots (ALO-2-P4T) I received last week: (sorry for the lousy cell phone pic)
Nice! I figured it wouldn't take long to get to 10W LED's as more of a common chip.

I wonder how this light, in amber and flood pattern, would work as a fog replacement. Legal? Blinding oncoming vehicles?
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Nice! I figured it wouldn't take long to get to 10W LED's as more of a common chip.

I wonder how this light, in amber and flood pattern, would work as a fog replacement. Legal? Blinding oncoming vehicles?
I think they're wayyyyy too powerful to use as a legal fog. I have amber covers I can test, though, so let me see how they look and if oncoming traffic flashes me.
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Cool. It was just more of a "thinking out loud" kind of thing but I'll be interested in your findings.

Quick question pale...do you know if Aurora makes anything like this - Black Box Logistics - RX Series
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Cool. It was just more of a "thinking out loud" kind of thing but I'll be interested in your findings.

Quick question pale...do you know if Aurora makes anything like this - Black Box Logistics - RX Series
Not that I'm aware of... yet. But damn, no doubt, that's some serious lumens!
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Not that I'm aware of... yet. But damn, no doubt, that's some serious lumens!
Yeah it is!

I was interested in getting a set from BBL when they had them on "pre-order" sale for $180, but the planets didn't align and I couldn't swing it financially. After the "pre-order" sale went off, them asking $80 more is a bit of a turn-off.
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Out of curiosity, I got a set of the D1Cs that look like the D2s.

A fair warning - the beam pattern is nothing like the D2 driving lights if that's what you're after. The Rigid D2 that was shown to me at a local shop was a wide, narrow beam.

the Aurora D1Cs have about the same width, however the light spreads out more vertically and not as concentrated on the horizon. This is something in between a flood and driving light. I was a little disappointed since I was looking for something with a little more throw to assist my highbeams, but as a flood, holy hell they are bright as hell!!!!

Lesson learned - if you want a D2, you get a D2... *sigh*
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Just got my Rigid D2's (driving beam) which I'll be installing this weekend. I'll be installing them in place of the oem fog lights using the Rigid mounting brackets. Will be using the Rigid harness, triggering the relay with the factory foglight switch.

Had considered going with Aurora, but decided to spend extra for an American made product with a lifetime warranty. Also don't like the fact that Aurora, like most Chinese manufacturers, simply copy an American co.'s design with no regard or respect for their patents. I couldn't in good conscience bemoan how everything is made in China nowadays and then go ahead and buy Chinese when an American made product is available. Just my $.02.
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Out of curiosity, I got a set of the D1Cs that look like the D2s.

A fair warning - the beam pattern is nothing like the D2 driving lights if that's what you're after. The Rigid D2 that was shown to me at a local shop was a wide, narrow beam.

the Aurora D1Cs have about the same width, however the light spreads out more vertically and not as concentrated on the horizon. This is something in between a flood and driving light. I was a little disappointed since I was looking for something with a little more throw to assist my highbeams, but as a flood, holy hell they are bright as hell!!!!

Lesson learned - if you want a D2, you get a D2... *sigh*
There are different beam patterns...spot, flood and driving (combo.) You need to compare apples to apples. My D2s (real ones) are driving pattern and don't throw very far (but are wide.) My Aurora spot 50" will light up a mile on a clear night.
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Just got my Rigid D2's (driving beam) which I'll be installing this weekend. I'll be installing them in place of the oem fog lights using the Rigid mounting brackets. Will be using the Rigid harness, triggering the relay with the factory foglight switch.

Had considered going with Aurora, but decided to spend extra for an American made product with a lifetime warranty. Also don't like the fact that Aurora, like most Chinese manufacturers, simply copy an American co.'s design with no regard or respect for their patents. I couldn't in good conscience bemoan how everything is made in China nowadays and then go ahead and buy Chinese when an American made product is available. Just my $.02.
Sadly you didn't buy an American made product. Even rigid changed their tune from made in the us to "designed and assembled" in the USA. All the parts are still Chinese/Asian. Their patents are on their optics only which have long been not copied and actually improved upon (scroll back and look at the ARB vs Aurora lights a few pages back) and the design isn't rigids either really, since Hanma has been making LED lights longer than rigid has been around. Im glad you like your lights but facts are facts. So far, the only company I have been able to verify that is truly made in the USA is bulldog LED.
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Sadly you didn't buy an American made product. Even rigid changed their tune from made in the us to "designed and assembled" in the USA. All the parts are still Chinese/Asian. Their patents are on their optics only which have long been not copied and actually improved upon (scroll back and look at the ARB vs Aurora lights a few pages back) and the design isn't rigids either really, since Hanma has been making LED lights longer than rigid has been around. Im glad you like your lights but facts are facts. So far, the only company I have been able to verify that is truly made in the USA is bulldog LED.
You're probably right regarding the "assembled in USA" part. Sadly, many American companies are forced to source parts from China nowadays. I saw a post from a Rigid rep. on another site where they claimed the only part not American made is the LED's; the post was a couple years old though, maybe that's changed. The same rep. also stated that Rigid bought the original maker of Led light bars back in 2007/8, long before any Chinese company was making led light bars.

Regardless, I figured Rigid is headquartered in Arizona and employees 75+ Americans. Rigids quality control is undoubtedly better than a Chinese factory. Plus I have heard people put their warranty to the test and not had an issue. Faulty products are either fixed or replaced, no jumping through hoops involved.
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There are different beam patterns...spot, flood and driving (combo.) You need to compare apples to apples.
The D1Cs are the D2 driving "equivalents"
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The D1Cs are the D2 driving "equivalents"
The aurora driving pattern is narrower than rigids and is hotter in the center, meaning, it's more of a spot than rigids driving. I've tested then both side by side. Just my findings.
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Just got my Rigid D2's (driving beam) which I'll be installing this weekend. I'll be installing them in place of the oem fog lights using the Rigid mounting brackets. Will be using the Rigid harness, triggering the relay with the factory foglight switch.

Had considered going with Aurora, but decided to spend extra for an American made product with a lifetime warranty. Also don't like the fact that Aurora, like most Chinese manufacturers, simply copy an American co.'s design with no regard or respect for their patents. I couldn't in good conscience bemoan how everything is made in China nowadays and then go ahead and buy Chinese when an American made product is available. Just my $.02.
Rigid owns two patents that they inherited when buying another company -- both related to their optics -- and neither of those is infringed upon in Aurora's current ALO product line.

I only know this because I investigated them pretty thoroughly about a year ago. They used to include the Rigid optics, as well, but they stopped and perfected their own after Rigid threatened legal action.

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Rigids quality control is undoubtedly better than a Chinese factory. Plus I have heard people put their warranty to the test and not had an issue. Faulty products are either fixed or replaced, no jumping through hoops involved.
Aurora offers a two year warranty, and their QC is right on par with Rigid. My buddies and I have ordered more than a hundred of their lights over the last year, and none of those has failed.

We did have two mounts break, but one was over-torqued (Aurora replaced it for free in 10 days), and the other one broke on an A-pillar mount because one if my friends allowed a 300+ pound guy stand on them while climbing on the vehicle. (derp)

But, again, none of their lights have failed or broken.

I hate it when people assume Aurora is just cheap Chinese knock-off shit when it's really not. In reality, Aurora quite clearly stacks up against the very best.

If you guys feel like grossly over-paying for your lights, then that's on you... good luck with that.
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The aurora driving pattern is narrower than rigids and is hotter in the center, meaning, it's more of a spot than rigids driving. I've tested then both side by side. Just my findings.
That's true, and it's due to the different optics. The D1C is more of a combo pattern than the pure "driving" pattern of the D2s.

That said, the D1C's are brighter (more lumens), and who is planning to use these as headlights anyways? LOL
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I was... NOT ANYMORE!!! Lol

Great product regardless. I just have to find a different use and mounting location for them
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The d1Cs are mounted. They are really, REALLY bright, I have them pointed at my garage door.

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The d1Cs are mounted. They are really, REALLY bright, I have them pointed at my garage door.

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Yeah, they definitely put out some serious light. Congrats!
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Lots of great info on this thread (thanks everyone). I'm considering a 10" LED light bar. I've seen the Aurora 10" LED Light Bar with the 20 x 5w LEDs for the total 100w. Here is one on eBay:

Aurora 10" Dual Row LED Off Road Light Bar 5W LEDs 100W Total 5600L | eBay

Wanted to know if anyone knows how the Aurora would compare to say the Rigid E2 10" - Hyperspot?

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Lots of great info on this thread (thanks everyone). I'm considering a 10" LED light bar. I've seen the Aurora 10" LED Light Bar with the 20 x 5w LEDs for the total 100w. Here is one on eBay:

Aurora 10" Dual Row LED Off Road Light Bar 5W LEDs 100W Total 5600L | eBay

Wanted to know if anyone knows how the Aurora would compare to say the Rigid E2 10" - Hyperspot?

Rigid Industries LED Lighting | Leader in Off road LED light bars, truck LED lights, Marine LEDs, and Industrial LEDs

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If you are mounting the 10" on your bumper you don't want a spot. It will lose it's effective range with hill crests, grass, etc. For bumpers you want flood/combo. Combo/Driving go at the A pillar and the spots go up on the roof. I don't have any experience with the new rigid lightbars. The one you linked is a little weaker light wise (75w) but the optics might be great (I have no idea.) For the price difference, I like Aurora (and run the 10" combo on the bumper)

Having a 10" combo on the bumper, D2s on the a-pillar, and a 50" spot on the roof gives me full coverage of the terrain ahead.
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Lots of great info on this thread (thanks everyone). I'm considering a 10" LED light bar. I've seen the Aurora 10" LED Light Bar with the 20 x 5w LEDs for the total 100w. Here is one on eBay:

Aurora 10" Dual Row LED Off Road Light Bar 5W LEDs 100W Total 5600L | eBay

Wanted to know if anyone knows how the Aurora would compare to say the Rigid E2 10" - Hyperspot?

Rigid Industries LED Lighting | Leader in Off road LED light bars, truck LED lights, Marine LEDs, and Industrial LEDs

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Well, the Aurora dual-row 10" (ALO-10-P4E4D) is arguably more attractive (lower profile), has 25 more watts (100 vs 75), has nearly 2000 more raw lumens (5600 vs 3880), and costs nearly 1/3 the price of the Rigid Hyperspot ($175 vs $499).

So, um, yeah... you decide! LOL

I can get an Aurora dual-row 40" bar with 22,400 raw lumens (ALO-40-P4E4D) for the price of that Rigid Hyperspot... just sayin'
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I'm pulling together a Michigan group buy for Aurora this week (my 3rd in two years).

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Hey all,
Great information, Other than the bull sh@# part debating the chinese and american shit. I found it very informative. Getting ready to purchase three Aurora lights for my boat to put on the Wakeboard tower. I'll eventually order some additional ones for my jeep.

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You're probably right regarding the "assembled in USA" part. Sadly, many American companies are forced to source parts from China nowadays. I saw a post from a Rigid rep. on another site where they claimed the only part not American made is the LED's; the post was a couple years old though, maybe that's changed. The same rep. also stated that Rigid bought the original maker of Led light bars back in 2007/8, long before any Chinese company was making led light bars.

Regardless, I figured Rigid is headquartered in Arizona and employees 75+ Americans. Rigids quality control is undoubtedly better than a Chinese factory. Plus I have heard people put their warranty to the test and not had an issue. Faulty products are either fixed or replaced, no jumping through hoops involved.

Good for you! Glad to see people buying from American companies rather than Chinese companies.


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Rigid owns two patents that they inherited when buying another company -- both related to their optics -- and neither of those is infringed upon in Aurora's current ALO product line.

I only know this because I investigated them pretty thoroughly about a year ago. They used to include the Rigid optics, as well, but they stopped and perfected their own after Rigid threatened legal action.

Never assume.
So you sell Aurora products. Why don't you respect peoples' decision to buy from American companies rather than criticizing them and making silly claims like these. Plenty of companies buy IP to own it and call it their own. And defending Aurora because "they stopped (copying Rigid's products) and perfected their own after Rigid threatened legal action is lame.


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Aurora offers a two year warranty, and their QC is right on par with Rigid. My buddies and I have ordered more than a hundred of their lights over the last year, and none of those has failed.

We did have two mounts break, but one was over-torqued (Aurora replaced it for free in 10 days), and the other one broke on an A-pillar mount because one if my friends allowed a 300+ pound guy stand on them while climbing on the vehicle. (derp)

But, again, none of their lights have failed or broken.

I hate it when people assume Aurora is just cheap Chinese knock-off shit when it's really not. In reality, Aurora quite clearly stacks up against the very best.

If you guys feel like grossly over-paying for your lights, then that's on you... good luck with that.

And I hate it when someone defends Aurora and attacks people on this forum (which is what you've done) because they sell their products. Show some class and let people spend money buying from an American company instead of buying from you so you can send their dollars to China.
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Good for you! Glad to see people buying from American companies rather than Chinese companies.

So you sell Aurora products. Why don't you respect peoples' decision to buy from American companies rather than criticizing them and making silly claims like these. Plenty of companies buy IP to own it and call it their own. And defending Aurora because "they stopped (copying Rigid's products) and perfected their own after Rigid threatened legal action is lame.

And I hate it when someone defends Aurora and attacks people on this forum (which is what you've done) because they sell their products. Show some class and let people spend money buying from an American company instead of buying from you so you can send their dollars to China.
Here we go again.

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