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Old 04-30-2014, 06:55 PM   #1
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Full led headlight, led bulb or HIDs

Want to get new headlights that are brighter, i already went to PIAA extreme white bulbs but theyre still not enough. Is there any recommendations you guys have? Ive seen the stock housings replaced by an led housing (trucklites, etc) and ive seen h13 led bulbs that replace the halogens in the stock housing and then theres the HIDs.. If anyone who has aftermarket headlights/bulbs could help me out thatd be great!

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I used these, they were LED replacement bulbs, $149 for the pair, and they work great. Took about 1/2 hour to install.

J100968 - Lifetime LED H13 LED Replacement Headlight Bulbs (07-14 Wrangler JK) $149 from Extreme Terrain
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Old 04-30-2014, 07:42 PM   #4
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I used these, they were LED replacement bulbs, $149 for the pair, and they work great. Took about 1/2 hour to install. J100968 - Lifetime LED H13 LED Replacement Headlight Bulbs (07-14 Wrangler JK) $149 from Extreme Terrain
are they significantly brighter? And do they perform well in the rain?
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Old 04-30-2014, 10:21 PM   #5
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Out of all the options you listed the only legal option would be truck lite or jw full led headlights. Take that into consideration.
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"legal" is a matter of opinion. You will see cops pull guys over for having improperly positioned lights or even those Piaa legal watt bulbs for 'being too bright' and at the same time let little civics with HIDS run all over the place.
Just be reasonable with your lighting. I run my headlights and fogs on the road, but I treat my high output spots and light bars like brights: only on when others arent around. If swapping out your headlights creates a hazard for other drivers, then you shouldn't do it. The round housing of jeeps is terrible for creating a good output cutoff like you would see on beamers or similar vehicles.
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Old 05-25-2014, 09:39 AM   #7
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I used these, they were LED replacement bulbs, $149 for the pair, and they work great. Took about 1/2 hour to install.

J100968 - Lifetime LED H13 LED Replacement Headlight Bulbs (07-14 Wrangler JK) $149 from Extreme Terrain
You have to go to the lifetime led thread in regards to these before buying, BUYER BEWARE!
They may be ok if you get them adjusted so the light is pointing at 12 and you never go offloading.
You will blind the person in front of you and if you lift your jeep it will be even worse.

If you still want to get them go to eBay and buy h13 LEDs for half the price.
There is only one factory in china that makes these, they just relabel them for oracle, lifetime, raxiom, and all of the others that claim that they are their product.

If you do get them from eBay for half the price then hopefully you will be half as annoyed when you take them out due to annoyance or failure.

Oh did I mention how loud the fan on these are?
Every time you unlock your jeep the fan turns on and it sounds like a little remote control car is winding up that is until they start to die and it sound like a bunch of horny crickets.

Needless to say, I had them they had problems before I went offroading, then I went off roading and now they are dead all in about 4 months.
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"legal" is a matter of opinion. You will see cops pull guys over for having improperly positioned lights or even those Piaa legal watt bulbs for 'being too bright' and at the same time let little civics with HIDS run all over the place.


also depends on locale. In some places, the only legal type of lighting is exactly what came on the vehicle. If it came with old style sealed beam halogens, that's the only road legal option which makes all of these LED and HID retrofits illegal there.
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Want to get new headlights that are brighter, i already went to PIAA extreme white bulbs but theyre still not enough. Is there any recommendations you guys have? Ive seen the stock housings replaced by an led housing (trucklites, etc) and ive seen h13 led bulbs that replace the halogens in the stock housing and then theres the HIDs.. If anyone who has aftermarket headlights/bulbs could help me out thatd be great!
I like the KC HiLites LED Headlights. They have great light output, don't need an anti-flicker harness and are less expensive than TruckLites. Let me know if you'd like a quote or if you have any questions!

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Never go for the H4 type LED bulbs. They are not designed for your stock reflectors, and will just throw light here and there.

Same for HIDs

If you want HID's then replace your housing with one that is designed for HIDs.
If you want to go LED, get a properly designed bar.
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Old 08-17-2014, 11:58 AM   #11
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"legal" is a matter of opinion.
Haha Legal is not a matter of opinion. it either is or it isnt, just because you dont get pulled over doesnt mean its legal.
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Old 08-17-2014, 09:42 PM   #12
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lol okay mr textbook. in that case might as well condescend the 80% of wranglers that are running around with tires that arent fully covered and without mud flaps
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VISION X NEW 7" Round LED Headlights

They're 100% DOT approved

I have had many, many questions in regards to these new headlights. What makes them better? Have they addressed certain issue's? What's the Halo Ring? What does it do?

I have the answer's to all of these very good questions. Yes these are priced at $799 for the pair (including wire harness) but man do they have features that other light companies do not.

'Out with the old, and in with the new'

LEDs like anything else evolve over time. New technology is brought into play, new designs, new features. VISION X will be the FIRST to bring it to the market before anyone else. Giving you the best warranty there is, LIFETIME. Interested? I am!

As we all know Jeep JK's have a flicker problem when converting to LED Headlights. Since they aren't a direct connection and conversion harness is needed to make it convert, some people have noticed a slight "flutter" when idling/parked. The problem by many companies was addressed and a New Anti-Flicker Harness was made.

This kit will include the "Anti-Flicker Harness" no choices. You will get this harness included for no extra cost.

Another question that I have gotten was, "Will these lights have a heater?" Some lights have had issue's with the lens freezing up and snow/ice accumulating on the lens. VISION X has addressed this issue as well, these will not have a 'heater' but they do come with a ice-phobic coating. This coating will not allow snow/ice build up and will run great in colder temps. VISION X sell's massive amounts to Alaska and to Ice Truckers as well, so all their lights will have this coating.

As far as the HALO RING, I was able to get more information on that feature and it will have a separate wire input that you can hook up to the day time running lights or you can hook it up to another switch. The choice will be up to you.

Also as far as daytime running lights go another feature VISION X will offer is in fact a day time running light. So VISION X will have running lights, low beam, and a high beam. I believe other companies only has low and high beam.

Overall VISION X will have a much CLEANER and BRIGHTER light output compared to other LED Replacement Headlights on the market to date.

Now do we have you attention?

Contact me if you have any further questions Erin@Rockridge4wd.com or for a quote!

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DOT approval has a catch 22 meaning jkucod12. Making it big and red doesn't make it right or correct to say. The use of the DOT symbol represents the manufacturer's own certification that the lens or lamp complies with all applicable Federal motor vehicle safety standards, and not that the DOT has approved the product.
Anyone can mark their bulbs/products with that (and many do without any testing) as the Department of Transportation does not test or approve these. So saying they are DOT approved doesn't hold much water about whether they are safe or not to use, or meet any technical regulations now a days. These types of products are self-certified, so ask the manufacturer for documentation they meet FMVSS's (Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards.) This will entail specific documents and testing/measurements etc that they meet requirements of the products they are replacing (ie bulbs=focal lengths, filament locations, types, etc...), housing plastics need to be tested for use in optical equipment on vehicles/outdoor exposure tests, etc, etc... the list is huge of stuff they technically need to comply with to be "legal". Hence most aftermarket stuff is in a gray area, or will not pass period, and if it ever came to an accident and lawsuit, I'm sure the aftermarket would lose badly, and the manufactures, distributors, and dealers need to worry more than the average consumer for selling/using them...
That said, looking at the wealth of aftermarket stuff available, it looks like its not enforced well or at all anyways, so use what you like, worry about it when something happens as society often does, no?!?!
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If you want the best lighting available for a JK, you want either....

hidprojectors.com units, TRS sealed 7 units, or if you want to blow 2K for the same damn thing but "legal" then the hella units. I run the HIDprojector units, but the sealed7s weren't out at the time, so I had no other option.
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The color of the trim in the lights can be whatever you want to paint em.
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dang these are sexy but so freaking expensive
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NFRs2000NYC: The Sealed 7 looks like around $750 assembled...if I added up all the basic options. I think the HID Projectors is around $200 cheaper. Sealed 7s look good but would you prefer those to the ones you have and why?
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Honestly, I can't say if the Sealed7s are better, I haven't used them, but the tech is essentially the same. The HIDprojectors that I run do a great job, have a great cutoff, and work well. For $200 savings, I'd probably go with HIDprojectors, and use the money elsewhere.
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Just got my fog led bulbs in and they dont fit in the housing.. What bulb should i buy to that will fit or what should I do to get these ones to fit?
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Replace the entire fog with a light that will actually produce light that is usable
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Old 10-24-2014, 11:07 PM   #22
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A few of my buddy's have led retrofits and I have hid retrofits I perfer my hid's over their led lights.
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I have replaced my stock factory headlight bulbs with the SilverStar Ultra's for $35, some improvement and I don't have that stock yellowish light. Then I step it up with replacing the Silverstars with LED light bulbs for $118. The light seems to be a brighter white but only out about 50 feet and around the sides more to. Doesn't seem to throw the beam down the road far enough. I see a slight flicker when idled. Only after 3 nights of use, the passenger side is completely burned out. They are under a 1 year warranty but I'm not a 100% happy with the lights. I may tty and return them and consider the Nappa's LED Truck Lited or the KC LED HiLites. I wish I had lights like on my corvette, I really believe they throw the light so far down the road they go all the way around the world and sign on my rear : ) HID or Xenon lights I guess.
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@tom95yj where did you get those projection housings? Looking for some for my yj
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Upgrading the headlights is like upgrading your exhaust, you don't know exactly what you have until you spend the money and they are installed.
I'm on my 3rd set of light bulbs, Halogen, Brighter Halogens, LED's and now just ordered another set of Halogen bulbs. Can't find light that has depth. The others just scatter the light 180 degrees. I'm about ready to take my Corvette lights out and install them on my Jeep Wrangler : )
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Upgrading the headlights is like upgrading your exhaust, you don't know exactly what you have until you spend the money and they are installed. I'm on my 3rd set of light bulbs, Halogen, Brighter Halogens, LED's and now just ordered another set of Halogen bulbs. Can't find light that has depth. The others just scatter the light 180 degrees. I'm about ready to take my Corvette lights out and install them on my Jeep Wrangler : )
i have noticed that halogens and xenons have about the same throw and spread depends on the quality of the housing.. And xenons at the moment from my experience have a more consistent light pattern with no fractures than LEDs. The leds though do have a very nice widespread and throw of light but there are fractures in the pattern. Right now i have the Petersons LEDs and love everything about them but have noticed the ruptures and fractures in the light pattern and the well known 'X Pattern'. It is all about personal preference and tolerance of the light pattern.
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I just went with the SilverStar® zXe, I just installed them before dark and I am stuck at work until 1am and will take a pic on the way home. From sitting in the parking lot, I can def see a huge improvement. They are whiter and shoot off wider than stock.
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from a vendor on Cherokee forum who isn't allowed to sell anymore due to stealing thousands of dollars. From members not delivering products. Out of 70 sets sold At 250 only 12 of us got out stuff after constant hounding him and going to the state and starting to take legal action.
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I just installed the KC hilite LED Par 56 headlights. All I can say is wow what a difference even my wife noticed the brighter lights and she never seams to notice any thing I change on the Jeep! I know they are $$$ but well worth the money just save a little longer and get the LEDs.
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