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Old 11-28-2013, 12:41 AM   #1
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Hi all -

So to begin, I have been searching for a decently priced light bar for a while now. Nothing seems to be below $500 for a 40-50". Almost all of the "commercial" light bars are from the same Chinese manufacturer, but all the "lighting/offroad companies" are stamping their logos on it and reselling. They have all these "series" and nifty names for them, but in the end...they're no different. Their specs are based on raw lumens, which is always going to produce a big number that make people go crazy for them. Frankly it's annoying and people aren't getting the REAL numbers.

Now, I'm not saying they don't produce a good product, because I'd be lying otherwise. Personally though, I felt there was an alternative way to invest my money.

I got together with a buddy of mine and we discussed our options. We came up with a simple, fairly cost effective design. It was not overnight and we are still working out flaws and ideas for improvement. We are still testing different electronics and comparing results. We aren't claiming any numbers on lumens, LED life spans, or lifetime warranties at this time. However, we are interested to see how many of you might be interested in such a light bar for much less the price of a commercial bar.

Also note; in the second to the last picture you can judge the size of the bars. There really is no limit to how big or how small you would want. They are inter-connectable making it an easy transition to gain or lose depending on your application.

Without further ado, a few pictures. (We will be updating the picture posts heavily in December sometime.)











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Old 11-28-2013, 12:51 AM   #2
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Looks great. Is it a modular design? Would adding lights after the initial purchase be feasible?

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Old 11-28-2013, 12:54 AM   #3
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It is actually a modular design. So basically it's a pod system with plug and play capabilities. Add or remove as you see fit.
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It is actually a modular design. So basically it's a pod system with plug and play capabilities. Add or remove as you see fit.
How much would each pod cost?
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I would be in at 300 dollars for a 50" that could mount over the windsheild..
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Old 11-28-2013, 01:19 AM   #6
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How much would each pod cost?
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I would be in at 300 dollars for a 50" that could mount over the windsheild..

Because we don't have a "final" build yet, I can't say for sure. However, it would not exceed more than 25-30$ per pod with the current LEDs shown in the pictures.
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Any beam pattern options?
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Any beam pattern options?
It definitely would be an option to customize what degree of lenses you want in your pods, and in what order. Pretty much 15 degrees up to 120 degrees (everything in between of course...30, 60, 90).
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If you have different beam patters in the bar, would you be able to turn them on and off separately?
I also notice in the picture that the 2 top row end pods have only 2 LEDs in them are they a different beam pattern than the pods with 3 LEDs?
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If you have different beam patters in the bar, would you be able to turn them on and off separately?
I also notice in the picture that the 2 top row end pods have only 2 LEDs in them are they a different beam pattern than the pods with 3 LEDs?
You know, I think we could probably wire each beam pattern separately, and you could run multiple switches to control specific beams. We haven't tried it, but it's certainly possible.

They are the same beam pattern. We were actually short a couple of LEDs for that bar, so we decided to go with two more pods instead of one.

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I also wanted to clarify, that the pictures show two bars double stacked.
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Old 12-02-2013, 04:08 PM   #11
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These are pretty cool, I'd definitely run some on the race car, if they'd hold up to the abuse.
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I would get a couple to play around with. How are the units sealed and how are all these wired connections kept waterproof? Would it be a mass of 17 individual wires (from your lightbar example) running under the hood to a junction of some sort? The lightbar in the photo looks like some sort of track lighting system which woulnd't be sealed at all.
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Old 12-04-2013, 10:19 PM   #13
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These are pretty cool, I'd definitely run some on the race car, if they'd hold up to the abuse.
We are going to be doing some stress tests in the next few days. We will take video of the events and post them.


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I would get a couple to play around with. How are the units sealed and how are all these wired connections kept waterproof? Would it be a mass of 17 individual wires (from your lightbar example) running under the hood to a junction of some sort? The lightbar in the photo looks like some sort of track lighting system which woulnd't be sealed at all.
The units are sealed internally where they connect to each other with silicone. Friction alone has them water tight, but the silicone is a for sure preventative. The lens is also siliconed along with a gasket. Each unit is sprayed with bed liner. If a person is not interested in the modular idea of the bar, we could also do the bed liner over all the seals.

As far as the wires go, the main cord that comes from each full bar is a single positive and negative wire. There is no clutter of 17 wires.
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Old 12-07-2013, 08:47 PM   #14
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Thought it was time to upload our double row pod.

6 of these guys = 49.5 in.

Should have some full bar shots on the jeep along with some beam demos in the next week or two. The stress test videos will be taken then as well.






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Interested in these as well.
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I could be interested in this. Any brackets designed for these yet?
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I'd be interested in buying a few single pods with the 3 LEDs, depending on how you're able to mount them.. price sounds pretty good at $20-$30 each.. I've got plenty of light up front but would want some for reverse lights or maybe even rock lights. Hell I may put more up front some how.
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Old 01-06-2014, 12:04 AM   #18
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Apologies for the late response and no updates like I stated would happen. Holidays have been busier than expected.

Right now there isn't any mounting bracket system for the individual pods. The main bar will be using a standard windshield mount available on eBay for like 160$ (For the TJ).

When I get some free time this coming weekend hopefully I can play around with some ideas I have in mind for single pod mounting as well as the videos.
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Apologies for the late response and no updates like I stated would happen. Holidays have been busier than expected.

Right now there isn't any mounting bracket system for the individual pods. The main bar will be using a standard windshield mount available on eBay for like 160$ (For the TJ).

When I get some free time this coming weekend hopefully I can play around with some ideas I have in mind for single pod mounting as well as the videos.
Awesome thanks for the update and looking forward to the videos.
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One other (minor) item to think about - covers. Laws vary state to state but in WV off-road lights must be kept covered at all times on public roads.
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One other (minor) item to think about - covers. Laws vary state to state but in WV off-road lights must be kept covered at all times on public roads.
A very good point. That will be up to the individual to determine light covers and laws for their state. Could be as simple as a piece of material wrapped and tied around the lights when not in use... or break out the sewing machine, get some material and snaps/buckles/Velcro and be creative.
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JK owner interested here.
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Old 01-14-2014, 04:04 AM   #23
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So update on the larger bars.

We have been assembling all weekend, haven't had time to coat the pods yet. Did a physical stress test with the larger pods between a rock and a tire.

Didn't hurt it one bit besides some scuffs from the rock. Will be doing a dunk/water test when time permits.

The pictures and videos were taken in the dark. The lighted pictures are the camera flash. Video at the bottom.























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Old 01-18-2014, 02:32 AM   #24
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These things are impressive! Keep up the good work.
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These things are impressive! Keep up the good work.
Appreciate it!

Couple quick picture updates to show the texture of the pods and wiring.












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I'll bite... I'm becoming interested... waiting to see more. beam pattern options, mounting options ect
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Any updates? definitely interested.
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Any updates? definitely interested.
I had planned on getting some action shots with the Wrangler LAST week, but the body shop that has my windshield light mounts and metal cloak fenders has been pushing the spray/install date back for the last 6 Saturdays. (Granted I know the guys and they're pretty busy, so mine is a side job, which I understand priorities) It's just hindering any progress on here.

Everything was supposed to be done today, but I got a text this morning that it won't be done until end of next week for SURE.

As far as when they will be for sale:

- Right now, we are offering locally through Craigslist to test the waters and hear people's opinions/ideas before they are shipped to various areas across the US.

- On this board we will need to apply for commercial access first to respect the rules of the forum.
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While I'm unable to post actual "mounted" pictures right now, here is a general idea of what it will look like. It's held in place with gorilla tape.









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Awesome! How are these held up there?
I'm in the market for lights, so these would be perfect.

I have the Gobi rack though, so I'll have to see how these would fit.

Looking forward to your design.

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