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Old 01-02-2014, 12:59 AM   #91
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First trip to Death Valley with my Truck-lites, passenger side stopped working on the way back.

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Installed the Trucklites the other day. The headlights are not snug, they fit and all but the entire housing seems a little loose. Does the housing need to be trimmed at all? Anyone else have this issue?

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Put 2-3 wraps of electric tape around the housing, then put the retaining ring on.

Checked my plugs and swapped headlights, one is definitely dead. Didn't even have them for a week.
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Just did some digging and emailed Truck-lite. They do make ECE-approved LED Headlights. Both in 7" Round and 5x7. The trouble seems to be finding them for sale in the U.S. I emailed again for some more info.

The part number for the ECE 5x7 lights are: 27490c for Right Hand Traffic (US)

27290c for the 7" round RHT versions

These lights should have the improved pattern similar to many H4/E-code upgrades only with the improved output of LEDs. I'll let you guys know what I find out.
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Just to follow up, Truck-lite emailed back and said any of their distributors can order up the part numbers for the ECE versions of the lights.
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Do I need 1 or 2 anti flicker harness for the TL's to install in a jk?
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Do I need 1 or 2 anti flicker harness for the TL's to install in a jk?
One for each headlight they are usually sold individually
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Can someone post everything I need to buy to make trucklites work. Harness, wiring, etc.and where to buy them. I planned on getting the lights from amazon but dont know where to get the harness/wires if they are even needed. Thank you
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So I have $1000 worth of accessory lighting but I can't see driving down my street. I amazed that Chrysler is so stupid that they have not figured out we are willing to pay for a good set of headlights. When MB owned them you would think some of the technology would have came their way. I guess night as they are still using candles for light. We are willing to pay for quality lights Chrysler and you could use the money! How about a $1000 option for self leveling xenon lights? Had them on SLK that was 6 inchs off the ground and they were the best lights I have ever seen. New Jeep order how just sent $800 to an after market company because Jeep is asleep at the wheel!
Ordered a set of JW in Black with anti Flicker- $800 delivered for all was the best I could find.
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Can someone post everything I need to buy to make trucklites work. Harness, wiring, etc.and where to buy them. I planned on getting the lights from amazon but dont know where to get the harness/wires if they are even needed. Thank you
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I just installed JW Speakers on my 2013 JKUR and I couldn't be happier. I was blown away with how bright they are. The light pattern is very smooth and wide with a sharp cutoff. As a matter of fact, my stock fog lights don't even show up if I turn them on. I will most likely replace the stock fogs with the Speaker fogs at some point. I struggled with the cost initially, but now that I have them installed I have no regrets and wish I would have done it sooner.
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I just installed JW Speakers on my 2013 JKUR and I couldn't be happier. I was blown away with how bright they are. The light pattern is very smooth and wide with a sharp cutoff. As a matter of fact, my stock fog lights don't even show up if I turn them on. I will most likely replace the stock fogs with the Speaker fogs at some point. I struggled with the cost initially, but now that I have them installed I have no regrets and wish I would have done it sooner.
Great choice…I also went with JW h/l and d/l. Then added ARB Intensity leds for off road.
The ARBs really eliminate the need for any other additional lighting.

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I just installed JW Speakers on my 2013 JKUR and I couldn't be happier. I was blown away with how bright they are. The light pattern is very smooth and wide with a sharp cutoff. As a matter of fact, my stock fog lights don't even show up if I turn them on. I will most likely replace the stock fogs with the Speaker fogs at some point. I struggled with the cost initially, but now that I have them installed I have no regrets and wish I would have done it sooner.
This pretty much mirrors my observations after installing the JW Speakers. The old headlights really needed to have the fogs turned-on. The fogs plus the stock headlights combined made them decent. Now with JW speakers, there's no comparison. And you're right, the stock fogs barely show up when you turn them on. This spring, I'm probably going to buy the JW fogs. I'm going to wait since it involves me crawling beneath the Jeep and since it's been averaging 11 degrees here, and I still have snow and ice in my driveway, I'm not that desperate to upgrade.
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Old 05-06-2014, 10:33 PM   #105
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I have both, believe it or not.

I own a 2003 Sport and a 2013 Sport S. I put a set of TruckLites on the JK and loved them. I became a diabetic four years ago and my vision is not so great these days; at night is flat out sucks. I drive on very narrow, twisty, hilly back roads every day, with about a 120 mile roundtrip commute. The trip home is usually around 11:00 at night.

The stock lights on *all* my vehicles suck, but on the TJ and JK they were terrible. Just awful for me, bordering on dangerous.

The TruckLites really improved my night driving experience. It was so expensive, but I really needed the promised improvement, and I got it, 100%. I am a pleased customer, to say the least.

Recently I decided to save up and get some for the TJ, too. It was still using the stock $8 halogen sealed beams it came with; very yellow, I could barely see anything. On nights where I had to drive the TJ the difference between it and the JK had become too much to bear.

I decided to swing the other direction and get the Speaker 8700s so I could make direct comparisons.

The Speakers are not as good for me. They are a huge step up, don't get me wrong. But the high beams make little to no difference where I drive. On the same roads the TruckLites make a large, substantive difference when the high beams are activated.

The bottom edge rainbow effect and cone shape of the Speakers also bugs me. And they are visibly not as bright as the TruckLites.

Note that this is in two different vehicle systems. These differences are so pronounced and unusually deviant from all I have read that I suspect that the TJ needs "the headlight mod" to get them running directly off the battery. I bet this would brighten them up a good bit.

To prove whether this is a vehicle-specific problem I will swap the headlights vehicle-to-vehicle tomorrow and take both out to the Mississippi Delta tomorrow after sundown. I want to see how the TruckLites do in the TJ and want to see if the Speakers improve in the JK. If the TJ loses in both cases then I know that the lights are fine and the headlight harness will have to be made (or bought) and installed. If the Speakers disappoint in the Jk too then they go back and I will get a second set of TruckLites for the TJ.

Either way I will get what I want. I just have to figure out why the differences I see vary from the reports of so many others.

Seriously, though - the high beams of the Speakers, as things are right now, are useless, making almost no difference on the very dark roads I use. I hope it is my TJ, because (and I know that this is silly) I really like how the Speakers LOOK on my TJ.

I will post more after I know something specific. It has been fun getting to play around with two very nice sets of lights.
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^ well said. Do you happen to know the difference between truck-lite phase 7 and phase 8? Also, if you don't mind, where'd you pick your TL's up from?

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^ well said. Do you happen to know the difference between truck-lite phase 7 and phase 8? Also, if you don't mind, where'd you pick your TL's up from?

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I have no idea. I did not know there were different models of them from which to choose. I bought both my TL and my JW sets from Quadratec. I spent more because of the convenience factor. I have had mostly good experience with them and all I have to do is tell them to bill it to my card that they have on file. Not the best place to get stuff, but a good place that is easy to work with.

So my TruckLites were ordered from Qtec in January. Whatever they had in stock at that time would be what I have.

The Speakers were ordered around the last week of April.

Sorry I don't know anything about the various TL Phase versions. What are the differences?

I know they initially were glass and had an array of LEDs. The second version was polycarbonate and had the divider bar in the center so that the top half illuminates alone on low beam. (I was almost certain that they were broken when I saw this, heh, heh, heh...)

I know that some folks hate that they are such cool-running units, enough so that they allow snow and ice to build up on the lenses while driving. Since I live in Mississippi this is not a problem for me.

What have been the alterations in the other phases?
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Holton, excellent post and I, for one, am anxiously waiting your results. Been debating between Trucklites and JWs for awhile now.
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Okay. The Speaker fogs arrived today. I wired them up this evening. (They come with about four inches of wire with stripped ends. You have to wire up your connector to them.)

After re-re-re-aiming the headlights and aiming the fogs we took the TJ out into the flatlands and the hills surrounding our small town.

Very nice. I am impressed.

Caveats:

These Speaker 8700s have what amounts to a tiny high beam zone; it is very narrow and super short, top to bottom. It is plenty bright enough. BUT - lifted jeeps tend to get a lot of air below them and in the case of my half finished shock replacement, the rears do not work at all right now and are stuck on for the moment. That means I have good gas-charged shocks in the front and nothing in the rear but springs. The jeep tips up in the front an inch or so at highway speeds. As the front is lifted up, the rear sags down. It is not much. But it means that until I get my shocks finished the aim of the Speakers *must* be slightly low on high beams. Otherwise, the super short zone rides up in the trees.

Since most of my testing has been in the very flat Delta region (cotton fields, no trees or buildings or anything at all anywhere near the highway) I am getting nothing for feed back save for the occasional signs. Our road reflectors are about a hundred years old here and reflect just about zilch.

I noted that when I rolled up on canal bridges (very high, with sharp inclines and descents) I could see very well. And as the pavement leveled out I would lose the bright zone.

To confirm this I headed out to the hilly pine forests to the East and South of town. Sure enough, with very tall pines crowding the narrow highway I had LOTS of feedback as to exactly where my high beams were pointing. And it is UP.

In the driveway at home they are dead level on high beams with the lows set to be about two or three inches below that at 25" from the fence where all my tape was set up for aiming.

Now that I have figured out that my jeep is pointing slightly uphill when I am moving at 50 or above this makes aiming them much easier.

In town, at 45 and below, the keep rides mostly level. Light patterns look good, but you cannot flash these to the high beams in traffic, plus they are not all that impressive in a heavily lit street. But at the lower speeds it seemed to be good.

On the way home on the dark highway there was a stretch of time with no one else but me on the road in either direction. I slowed down to 40 and my 300-500 yard field of vision suddenly improved a lot.

I still prefer the Truck-Lites, but they are on my JK, and it has a brand new suspension, so it rides with the stock rake, which is pretty much the same moving or still.

Sorry that I did not get the headlights swapped. I will try to do that tomorrow. I was pleased enough with the improvements to the Speakers that I did not think to swap the two jeep's lights and see how they performed.

Now, the Speaker fogs were GREAT. They were just as vague to aim as the stock TJ fogs. You have to do a lot of squatting to the sides to compare up/down and a lot of leaning over the bumper to check left/right. Tightening the Speaker bases was tough to do without them rotating toward where oncoming traffic would be. It took two sets of hands to hold them in place while ratcheting them down tightly.

Once I was satisfied with the aim of everything we rolled into the evening and decided to keep the Speakers. So we will keep the Truck-Lites and the Speakers, though we *might* swap them with each other if we like them better on the other vehicles. So I might end up with Speakers on the JK and Truck-Lites with Speaker fogs on the TJ.

Whatever. I am now happy for the most part. Hope this information was of use to some of you. The Truck-Lites are brighter and the difference between low and high is better. They are less costly and make me happier.

They have a three year warranty (used to be five, I think) and people are currently having difficulties with the company regarding their honoring problem units. People on this very site are complaining that they are starting to blink on and off or go out completely. Returns are supposedly becoming more difficult to get. Not sure I am liking this company now.

Speaker seems to be faster and more receptive to complaints and they have a lifetime warranty. So we shall see. I have heard of no problems like blinking or dead units from Speaker. And everyone seems to be happy with the company thus far. But I have read that others are having issues with aim or with the brights being disappointing. I think they too might have a jeep that tips up in the front so that the aim in the driveway (or shop) might be perfect, but at highway speeds the small bright zone is above everything and pretty much invisible.

I don't know. I just know that I am happier with the Truck-Lites, but am now wary of the company. The Speakers help me with my weak night vision a great deal. So do the Truck-Lites. Both look very cool, too. Very different. The Speakers especially look ultra modern, making my eleven year old TJ look "refreshed" (along with all the other LEDs I have been sticking here and there).

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Some photos of the new Speakers on the TJ...
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Nice wright-up, very well done. I still think I want the TW Speakers but like the price of the TruckLites more. No money for lights now, so time will tell witch ones we will get.
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You will like either. They are apples and oranges; they are different ways of getting similar results. Both are fantastic products. If you get some installed post some pics!
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I have the Trucklites and they have been nothing but awesome since day 1. I never have to use my hi-beams or fogs any more (I used my fogs every time I used my stock lights cause they sucked). They fit great and aiming them were a breeze. Install took all of 10 minutes from grille off and back on. I have bought the Putco led fogs just cause they match color wise with the Trucklites.
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What a HUGE difference! I replaced the oem headlights on my '14 JKRX with JW Speakers (black) and the TL anti flicker harnesses about 6 weeks ago. Though $850 is a lot, I wish Jeep offered this as a factory option. 99% of my night driving is where there is no road illumination. I would definitely recommend this upgrade.
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I like the look of the Speakers more than the TruckLites. But spending less than half as much was easier to swallow. I got the GE Nighthawks which seem to be the same as the TruckLites. I'm guessing the TruckLites are made by GE and branded for TL. I got them for about $160 each on Amazon when there was an instant $100 off each. GE 69821 Nighthawk 7" Round LED Headlamp by GE http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BQX2BT8/..._MezBtb0VQZQB6
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Amazon says it does not fit my 2014 JKUS.
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Amazon says it does not fit my 2014 JKUS.
Amazon would be wrong. They fit my 2014 JKU.
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I like the look of the Speakers more than the TruckLites. But spending less than half as much was easier to swallow. I got the GE Nighthawks which seem to be the same as the TruckLites. I'm guessing the TruckLites are made by GE and branded for TL. I got them for about $160 each on Amazon when there was an instant $100 off each. GE 69821 Nighthawk 7" Round LED Headlamp by GE http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BQX2BT8/..._MezBtb0VQZQB6
. How did you get an instant $100 off?
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It was an instant coupon a short time ago. Looks like it's no longer there.
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Trying to decide on Trucklites vs KC vs JW. I live in Dallas so no real backroads with no lights. I currently have D2's on A-pillar and 10" SR bar on my hood. When necessary this combo is more than plenty to see down a dark street or road. TL's look way better to me in daylight, but sounds like the KC's might be slightly better at night. JW are more than I want to spend at this point. I'm not even sure if I need either actually and I probably will wait until fall or winter to buy since I very rarely drive after dark during the summer. Decisions, decisions.

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