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Old 02-01-2014, 09:54 AM   #31
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I currently have the truck lite and ordered the KC's off amazon for $423. I'm happy with the truck lite except for the 3 year warranty. So the 23 yr warranty with the KC's is the only reason for switching. The only issue is a 10 day wait! Will post some pics with truck lite vs KC's when I get them

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I currently have the truck lite and ordered the KC's off amazon for $423. I'm happy with the truck lite except for the 3 year warranty. So the 23 yr warranty with the KC's is the only reason for switching. The only issue is a 10 day wait! Will post some pics with truck lite vs KC's when I get them
10 days? I just checked and now Amazon says 3-4 weeks! I want these bad.

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Called them and they said 10 business days
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Old 02-01-2014, 09:04 PM   #34
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Ok guys here are some pics from the drivers seat tonight. The photos behind Lexus look like I am really close but I just have camera zoomed in before light turned green. You will see in that photo that I have my lights angled down so I don't burn scalps and blind people from reflection from rear view (we've all been there)

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Old 02-05-2014, 12:49 PM   #35
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Just ordered a set of these via Amazon! Really looking forward to some decent nightime visibility !
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Old 02-06-2014, 01:05 AM   #36
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Awesome! Post pics and opinions once installed. Hopefully the write up makes the install super easy for ya
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Old 02-06-2014, 03:22 PM   #37
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Ok guys here are some pics from the drivers seat tonight. The photos behind Lexus look like I am really close but I just have camera zoomed in before light turned green. You will see in that photo that I have my lights angled down so I don't burn scalps and blind people from reflection from rear view (we've all been there)

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Do you have your lights adjusted left or right at all?
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Do you have your lights adjusted left or right at all?
Yeah looks like they're aimed towards the center in like with one another.
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Old 02-08-2014, 12:24 AM   #39
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JK headlights you can only adjust up and down.. That's how they are
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HSKR4x4,

In the picture above.... what H4 bulb is being used in the IPF housing?

I am waiting to install a set of IPF H4 housings, Sylvania Silverstar Ultras and the Susquehanna Motorsports harness.
While I am sure they wont be as bright as LEDs; they also wont create the terrible RF noise heard by my Ham Radio.
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Old 02-12-2014, 01:30 AM   #41
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JK headlights you can only adjust up and down.. That's how they are
You can adjust them here: Headlight horizontal adjustment

I replaced the original bolt/screw with a Torx, so I can adjust up/down/left/right with the grill still on.


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HSKR4x4,

In the picture above.... what H4 bulb is being used in the IPF housing?

I am waiting to install a set of IPF H4 housings, Sylvania Silverstar Ultras and the Susquehanna Motorsports harness.
While I am sure they wont be as bright as LEDs; they also wont create the terrible RF noise heard by my Ham Radio.
Here's some numbers by Hilldweller between Truck-lites (LED), Hella E-Code/Philips XP +80 bulbs (Halogen). IPF (Halogen). I'd opt to return the IPFs if you can, they throw a lot of light upward.

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Markers are at 25yards L/R, 50 yards L/R, 75 yards L/R
Jeep is on the right side of a 2-lane road; camera on hood in front of driver. Reading are taken at 12" height from road surface --- this is an important stat since the LUX number is higher at different heights. But, for consistency, the 12" number should be used to compare to other lights previously tested.

Ambient temperature 57 degrees F; ambient illumination from stars less than 1 LUX
Lights are aimed with about a 2" drop at 25 feet --- the lowbeams need to be aimed higher than many other types of lights due to the sharp cut-off and lack of ECE "uptick" for road signs.

Lux readings Lowbeam/Highbeam:

25Right-26/ 39 * 25Left-24/ 24

50Right-3/ 23 * 50Left-4/ 15

75Right-1/ 13 * 75Left-1/ 7

25 feet dead center 416/ 1870

8 LUX at 125 yards center; enough to read by.
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Some numbers for the Phillips Xtreme +80 H4 bulbs in a Hella H4 reflector; bulbs are harnessed/relayed for optimal power.

Lowbeam value in blue, high in red.

LUX at 25 feet, sensor moved to highest output spot. 695/1619

25 yards Right: 66/45 * Left: 2/2

50 yards Right: 10/30 * Left: 3/3

75 yards Right: 3/16 * Left: 2/2

And we measured 6 LUX dead center at 125 yards, unassisted by any supplemental driving lights. The Hella reflectors have a tremendous middle-of-the-road hot-spot, a little too much foreground light, and not enough off to the sides. But with a pair of supplemental lights to provide some light to the sides, they'd give you the most total light so far. The highbeams are a little too high as well ---- but a remarkable focus...
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cjlewis came over to the Hilldweller proving grounds with his Rubicon and set of Northridge-sourced IPF reflectors with clear bulbs. Big "thank you" to him.
The results were, ahem, illuminating.

Lowbeam IPF


Highbeam IPF


And a side shot that needs an explanation


These are wired with a pigtail connector rather than a full harness; they're fed stock PW-modulated power with added resistance from an extra connector.

These lights have been available from IPF/ARB for a long long time; they are very popular in the Land Rover community.
I've also made a large deal over the fact that IPF has never submitted them for testing to certify that they meet DOT or ECE regulations; we now know why.
Looking at Chris' Jeep from the side, I noticed that it looked like beams of light were shooting into the sky. So we measured it and, sure enough, we found 1700 LUX of stray light at a highly oblique angle (see photo). I measured my Cibie Z-Beams for comparison and got 63 LUX.
I can't imagine how these would work to mess with the driver's ability to see in fog, let alone oncoming traffic.


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Ambient temperature 53 degrees F; lens temperature 135 degrees F

Lowbeam value in blue, high in red.

LUX at 25 feet, sensor moved to highest output spot. 517/513

25 yards Right: 69/79 * Left: 1/1

50 yards Right: 2/25 * Left: 1/3

75 yards Right: 1/10 * Left: 1/4
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I currently have the truck lite and ordered the KC's off amazon for $423. I'm happy with the truck lite except for the 3 year warranty. So the 23 yr warranty with the KC's is the only reason for switching. The only issue is a 10 day wait! Will post some pics with truck lite vs KC's when I get them
Interesting...

Anyone have an Amazon link for these at $423? This is the only one I've been able to find -

For $444.18 with 3 to 4 weeks delivery -
Amazon.com: KC Hilites (42321) 7" LED Headlight for Jeep JK - Pair: Automotive

and these at $539 "in stock" -
KC HiLiTES 42321 Jeep JK Round DOT LED 20/25 Watt Headlights (pair) : Amazon.com : Automotive
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Old 02-12-2014, 10:41 AM   #43
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I ordered last Monday for that price. Don't see link anymore. Still not here yet. They said about 10 buisness days
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Old 02-13-2014, 03:14 AM   #44
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I noticed in another thread that someone had returned a set of KCs because of condensation/moisture inside the light housing. Has anyone else had a problem with this? Mine (KCs) are supposed to be delivered this afternoon or tomorrw...so I'll be watching to see how they do...just wondering if it's a common problem or a one-off.
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Old 03-11-2014, 02:21 AM   #46
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I'm in a dry climate so I haven't had any issues with either set. That being said the Jeep has been through multiple car washes with zero issues
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Old 03-11-2014, 10:02 AM   #47
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Thanks for this write-up. I am very interested to see the comparison between these and the KC H4 upgrade (which I currently have).

Also, has anyone used these with stock fog lights? I would not be able to do led fogs right now, and want to know if they fogs are still effective or if the color difference is too noticeable.
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Old 09-29-2014, 11:00 PM   #48
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This is a great review and photos too. I have had the Truck-Lites for a month, and the "Y" hot spot has been driving me crazy. Spent several hours adjusting and testing with no success. To me it is a big distraction (my OCD & ADD), I thought about using some duct tape to eliminate the Y's, but really, on $400 headlights. Ordered the KC's this morning. Thanks HSKR4X4!

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Are these made for a TJ? All I've been able to find are for a JK.

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