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Old 10-25-2012, 08:59 PM   #691
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I like what DarkFire did so I would lean towards option 2.
What are BDF taillight mounts?
I'm actually toying with that idea. As long as I get a plastic cutting wheel for a dremel and go slow it should be okay.

BDF (black diamond fabrication) makes a mount that screws onto the top of the tail lights so you can mount a dually to it.

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I would like to see a pic of the BDF brackets actually mounted on a Jeep.

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Old 10-26-2012, 04:36 AM   #693
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I like what DarkFire did so I would lean towards option 2.
What are BDF taillight mounts?

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...and, like usual, the caveat: this could get you a ticket in many places. The lights would overpower the brakelights.
Backup lights are a regulated light and these are a bit on the obvious side and flagrantly non-compliant.


Personally, I'd mount a pair of Duallies up high alongside the third-eye in back. A pair of floods, pointed down and away.
Or just get a cheap Chinese LED flood worklight and mount it there; I've seen that done and it works great.
Worklights aren't regulated and if you wired it correctly and had a cover, no problems.
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...and, like usual, the caveat: this could get you a ticket in many places. The lights would overpower the brakelights.
Backup lights are a regulated light and these are a bit on the obvious side and flagrantly non-compliant.

Personally, I'd mount a pair of Duallies up high alongside the third-eye in back. A pair of floods, pointed down and away.
Or just get a cheap Chinese LED flood worklight and mount it there; I've seen that done and it works great.
Worklights aren't regulated and if you wired it correctly and had a cover, no problems.
I would like to install a roof bar for a set of floods but I can't find anything. The only thing I find is an actual roof rack which I don't want.

Having them mounted using the BDF mounts should be okay especially if you have them on a switch. They are illegal and you COULD get a ticket and it might not pass inspection but on a switch you can turn them off so if you are in a crowded area you don't have to use them. Our reverse lights are so bad we should be able to legally use these lol
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Old 10-26-2012, 06:50 AM   #695
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Found another option for Foglight replacement on the JK again apologize if this has been covered.

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I would like to install a roof bar for a set of floods but I can't find anything. The only thing I find is an actual roof rack which I don't want.

Having them mounted using the BDF mounts should be okay especially if you have them on a switch. They are illegal and you COULD get a ticket and it might not pass inspection but on a switch you can turn them off so if you are in a crowded area you don't have to use them. Our reverse lights are so bad we should be able to legally use these lol
A switch and covers for the back.
What the LEOs are afraid of is the use of the lights as weapons. Like, dang that guy is tailgating me; I'll flick on my D2s to teach him a lesson...
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A switch and covers for the back.
What the LEOs are afraid of is the use of the lights as weapons. Like, dang that guy is tailgating me; I'll flick on my D2s to teach him a lesson...
Yeah definitely. Though if it was hooked up just to reverse it would be impossible to do that.
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Old 10-26-2012, 09:02 AM   #698
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I would like to see a pic of the BDF brackets actually mounted on a Jeep.
Ditto. I like the idea, but need to see a pic of it installed.
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Found another option for Foglight replacement on the JK again apologize if this has been covered.

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I've got a pair of Dually D2's awaiting my Shrockworks front bumper when it arrives. Can't wait to replace those factory fog lights.
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Ditto. I like the idea, but need to see a pic of it installed.
Hilldweller posted a pic above. You can also search Google "BDF taillight mount" and look at the images.
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Yeah definitely. Though if it was hooked up just to reverse it would be impossible to do that.
Yeah; I'd love the way that would work, in theory...
But in practice, it's just too bright.

From a legal perspective, the photometric properties restrict the LUX and beam. The back-up lights can't be bright enough to confuse them with headlights nor can they dissappear the taillights.
That's why one big or a pair of them up high by the third eye usually doesn't get a ticket. Even up there you'd be wise to keep a cover handy or have a way of spinning them to point straight down or something.
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Yeah; I'd love the way that would work, in theory...
But in practice, it's just too bright.

From a legal perspective, the photometric properties restrict the LUX and beam. The back-up lights can't be bright enough to confuse them with headlights nor can they dissappear the taillights.
That's why one big or a pair of them up high by the third eye usually doesn't get a ticket. Even up there you'd be wise to keep a cover handy or have a way of spinning them to point straight down or something.
I agree. I would definitely put them on a switch and buy a cover.

That's exactly why I'm trying to find a way to mount them on a rear roof bar similar to the windshield bars we can put on
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Does anyone else feel that this is not how we want our light questions answered. Seperate topics are needed with the massive amount of light options that are available. Not impressed with posts being closed and pushed here.
Yup, it does seem like a crazy way to do this. This page has more views and posts than a lot of the areas that are given their own sections.
lighting seems like it'd be at least as important as some of the other things in general tech. Light seem to be one thing every jeep owner wants to mess around with.

But maybe there is a technical reason why they want to cram everything light related in to an unreadable mess that I am not savvy to.
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Old 10-26-2012, 02:55 PM   #704
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I've got a pair of Dually D2's awaiting my Shrockworks front bumper when it arrives. Can't wait to replace those factory fog lights.
Be great if you could take a pic once it's installed of the lights at night. I'm thinking they are going to be too intense to use as driving lights.
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Be great if you could take a pic once it's installed of the lights at night. I'm thinking they are going to be too intense to use as driving lights.
Poison Spyder makes Fog Light Mounts to replace the factory fog lights with Dually D2's.

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Ive contacted Rigid "they" claim you can use them for on road use when using they're driving light version, but I've looked at video's and pics they look like off road lights. I want them to be useable or I'll just leave them stock. Just looking for more useable light on the road at night.
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I just mounted d2 driving lights on my a pillar and they make the headlights totally non existent not sure how they could be considered to be street legal. Just my $.02
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They aren't street legal. They are off road driving lights.
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I just mounted d2 driving lights on my a pillar and they make the headlights totally non existent not sure how they could be considered to be street legal. Just my $.02
These would be great if you where using them as offroad spot or flood lights, but I want something thats still functional as a foglight/driving light.

Thats my feeling as well. I'm looking at the Baja Squadron Wide Cornering LED, but I'm having a hardtime swallowing that price. Going to see if I contact them if there's better pricing.

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After careful consideration and deliberation WF Staff has decided to rescind the rule in regards to allowing only one JK lighting thread. You may now start new threads to discuss lighting options for the JKs. With that being said, the discussion of the legality of various types of lighting is still prohibited and will result in immediate closure of the thread and infraction points being issued. If you are unsure about the rules read the first post in this thread.

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Why is the discussion of legality an issue? It seems pertinent and important!
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Why is the discussion of legality an issue? It seems pertinent and important!
Because it causes heated arguments between those that care about legality and those that don't. People are responsible for what they put on their rigs and we're not going to police it.
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Because it causes heated arguments between those that care about legality and those that don't. People are responsible for what they put on their rigs and we're not going to police it.
I guess that answers that.
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Thanks much! Should make searching for info and discovering interesting lighting topics/deals a bit easier for those of us who don't spend much time in this thread.

Now let's not blow this!
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...People are responsible for what they put on their rigs and we're not going to police it.
But people should also be told if something is legal or not ----- that's always been the issue.
Illegal items being sold to unsuspecting customers.
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So, whats the best way to upgrade the JK headlights without spending $500 on led lights?

1. Phillips Xtreme H13 Bulbs?
2. Replace Stock Headlight Housing for Aftermarket with H4 Bulb Conversion?

What is a good, inexpensive, replacement set? no LED or HID please.
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So, whats the best way to upgrade the JK headlights without spending $500 on led lights?

1. Phillips Xtreme H13 Bulbs?
2. Replace Stock Headlight Housing for Aftermarket with H4 Bulb Conversion?

What is a good, inexpensive, replacement set? no LED or HID please.
Order the Hella H4 conversion for the Wrangler from SMS, rallylights.com. about $260.
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Tumbler ==Also look into the CIBIE Lights from Daniel Stern Lighting and the wiring hardness too. Under $400 and this is not LED or HID Lights. They have been talked about before here.
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Order the Hella H4 conversion for the Wrangler from SMS, rallylights.com. about $260.
How do those compare to IPF Headlamps?
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How do those compare to IPF Headlamps?
Hilledewilder can give a better answer, but here's my opinion: The Hella & Cibie lense & reflector assemblies have been around a long time, with well developed optics. The SMS wiring harness overlay takes main power directly from the battery giving a higher voltage at the lights. All in all, Hella & Cibie are both superior to IPF.

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