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Old 01-21-2013, 02:55 PM   #1051
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That's not a bad idea...I was just thinking I'd run a separate switch to the secondary set in the end caps, but wiring them to the high beams would be a clean setup. I'll have to look into the details - wiring isn't my strong suit. If the secondary is LED, they shouldn't draw much more power. Of course, if anyone has an existing write-up or pointers on how to splice into the high beams, it would be much appreciated. Otherwise, I'll ask the Google machine.
Yes, I would use a switch, using the oe high beams as a trigger. That's how I have both sets of my LF's wired, also I'm using full harness's to my head lights & both sets of aux lights. If I leave my aux lights turned ON they will come on when I switch my HB's on.

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Old 01-24-2013, 04:47 PM   #1052
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Okay this is a super stupid question. Just getting started on my first lighting mod. Picked up a set of Rigid Dually LED's. Got the wiring harness etc and it comes with a real chincy power switch. Can I use this as a stand alone switch Daystar KU80011 - Daystar Rocker Switch - Quadratec

or do I have to buy the whole switch panel to go along with it? The Pillar panel is only another $20 bucks or so but I just dont anticipate needing 4 more switches as I already have locker and disco switches. Thanks in advance.

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Old 01-24-2013, 05:06 PM   #1053
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Okay this is a super stupid question. Just getting started on my first lighting mod. Picked up a set of Rigid Dually LED's. Got the wiring harness etc and it comes with a real chincy power switch. Can I use this as a stand alone switch Daystar KU80011 - Daystar Rocker Switch - Quadratec

or do I have to buy the whole switch panel to go along with it? The Pillar panel is only another $20 bucks or so but I just dont anticipate needing 4 more switches as I already have locker and disco switches. Thanks in advance.
Go with the switch you have. If you need more switches later, you ca n always change it later.
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Old 01-24-2013, 05:12 PM   #1054
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The one that I have that came with the lights is junk.
So that one I linked to can be used as a standalone? I dont need the panel?
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Old 01-24-2013, 05:36 PM   #1055
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The one that I have that came with the lights is junk.
So that one I linked to can be used as a standalone? I dont need the panel?
You will have to cut a hole in your trim to use the Daystar switch. I have a PIAA light set and used the switch that came with the lights. It works fine, and attached to my a-pillar trim with tape. Looks good as well.
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Old 01-24-2013, 06:07 PM   #1056
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You have a pic of that by any chance?
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Old 01-24-2013, 07:37 PM   #1057
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PIAA switch picture

Here is the picture of the PIAA switch mounted on the a-pillar. Unfortunately, it is out of focus, didn't see that until you asked. If you look back in this thread, I did an install write up showing how I added the doides and capacitor for circuit protection.
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Old 01-25-2013, 10:06 AM   #1058
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HID on the right and LED on the left
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Old 01-25-2013, 11:43 AM   #1059
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I like my HIDs

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Old 01-25-2013, 01:42 PM   #1060
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Thanks Stan! That looks pretty good. Maybe I will stick with that switch.
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Old 01-26-2013, 12:19 AM   #1061
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I was wondering will the JW Speaker 6045 fog lights need a wiring relay (from rally lights) like the JW speaker 8700 evo headlights, or do the fog lights not have issues with regards to flicker?
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Old 01-26-2013, 04:38 PM   #1062
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Anyone heard of anything new coming out from JW?? I thought I read that there was something potentially on the horizon. I'd hate to drop $700 on the 8700's and see something new.
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Old 01-26-2013, 06:17 PM   #1063
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Well, I got my JW Evos and 6045 out of the box today ready to wire up the new headlights and driving/fog lights, but the Evos didn't have the wiring harnesses with them and the 6045s didn't have the JK mounts I ordered with them! So, now that I took my Jeep apart to do these things, I get to wait until Monday to call Rebel Offroad and try to find out why this stuff wasn't in the box! More than a little frustrating!
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:31 PM   #1064
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Leonidas, I would look into the rally lights wiring harness for the jw8700 evo's, I installed mine about a week ago and there is slight flicker with the adapter that comes with the kit, also I have IPF lights hooked up to my highbeams that hum when they are on with the LED headlights (was told it would burn up the relay if i didnt use the rally light wiring harness due to the different draws from the LED and IPF)
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Old 01-29-2013, 08:31 AM   #1065
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Question for the masses - I need a set of 4.5" or less auxiliary lights to mount in my bumper. It has 4 light mounts, 2 of which are taken by the stock fogs (upgrade coming soon), but the end caps also have mounts available. I want to put in a set of aux driving lights but am having a hard time finding something to fit.

Suggestions? I've considered the Rigid Dually option, but would prefer a round set for the round holes. Unless anyone has come up with a decent way to clean up the gaps/mount these in a bumper...
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:18 PM   #1066
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Can't edit my previous post...but I've created a separate thread with a more specific question - http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/bos...ns-215607.html
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Old 01-29-2013, 06:01 PM   #1067
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Does anybody have a euro guard preference with jw 8700s? I saw on here that the rugged ridge version doesn't cause any issues but wasn't sure if another brand worked any better. I noticed the rampage model is snap on versus screws and potential drilling.

Rugged ridge makes it easy and I can buy the whole kit to cover my headlights, Tails, turns and fender lights if I so desire. That is assuming they fit over the recon lights I just ordered.
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Old 01-29-2013, 06:13 PM   #1068
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I like my HIDs

Just wondering what hid kit do you have. It looks good
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:05 PM   #1069
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Just wondering what hid kit do you have. It looks good
Make sure you don't buy it from vvme.com. I bought a set from them back in early December. I had to file a chargeback against them as the wouldn't replace the components that were broken in shipping. Twice I had broken bulbs from them because their poor packaging. The strung me along for weeks saying they had to get FedEx to approve the claim (filed by them because of the broken bulb) before they would send out a replacement. After 4 weeks I asked them for the FedEx claim number and and then finally they admitted they never filed a claim with FedEx and that they would no longer help me.

Pay a bit more and buy from a company that knows how to treat customers.
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Old 01-31-2013, 09:18 AM   #1070
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JWS and TL both flicker without smoothing out the PWM circuit.

I fully expect Jeep to offer LED sometime soon.

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I've got the TL prototypes in my glovebox; they get the job done okay.
I still prefer a full-on harness for our type of service but their adapter will get the basic job done at a much friendlier price.

BTW, the JWS 8700 Evolutions don't have caps/resistors in them from the factory; even their newest lights need some sort of smoothing-out to defeat the PWM power. I'm sure they've got something up their sleeve for that though.

And I'm still hoping that Mother FIAT/Chrysler will offer a headlight package that works for the JK. I saw at least one of the MOPAR Skunkwerks JKs with JWS LED headlights at SEMA.
Seems like a smart thing for them to add ---- or at least their bi-HIR projectors that they give standard on my 500 or offfer as an option on the new RAM pickups.

C'mon, Jeep. Don't JK owners deserve to see where they're going at night?
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Just get the rallylight harness, works awesome and allows upgrades to be triggered without pulse width modulation issues. I have phase 7 and rally harness with a rigid sr20 triggered from high beams and no flicker on anything.
Correct and "easy button" answer.


I'm still mostly-retired from the forum but I just wanted to clear up the rumors a bit.
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Old 01-31-2013, 11:16 AM   #1071
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Anyone know how to aim the headlights outwards? My headlights, for the last of a better term, are slightly cross-eyed - the cutoff step meets down the road.

Is it those hidden bolts on the bottom of the bracket that are only accessibly by taking the headling out?

Google has failed be for a real answer
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Anyone know how to aim the headlights outwards? My headlights, for the last of a better term, are slightly cross-eyed - the cutoff step meets down the road.

Is it those hidden bolts on the bottom of the bracket that are only accessibly by taking the headling out?

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The headlights are only adjustable up & down not side to side
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Old 01-31-2013, 11:34 AM   #1073
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Just wondering what hid kit do you have. It looks good
Thanks, it's not so much a kit, it's a bixenon projector retrofit using Mini H1 projectors, Cnlight bulbs, and Morimoto 3Five ballasts and my own active relay harness (what a pain that was...)

If you're handy and know were to order parts, it can be done for well under $200
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I cant decide what to do. Does anyone here have JW Speakers that DONT flicker? I thought the Evo's fixed that? Why would I drop $700 on headlights that flicker??
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I cant decide what to do. Does anyone here have JW Speakers that DONT flicker? I thought the Evo's fixed that? Why would I drop $700 on headlights that flicker??
I have Evolution 8700's that don't flicker. JWS corrected the flicker in August. Buy the lights dated post August 17, 2012, and you'll be safe.
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I cant decide what to do. Does anyone here have JW Speakers that DONT flicker? I thought the Evo's fixed that? Why would I drop $700 on headlights that flicker??

I bought some 8700 evo's and installed them in my 13' Wrangler Unlimited several weeks ago. They were manufactured in mid December. They still flicker. Any comment to the contrary is BS. JW acknowledges that themselves. There is also no dongle, adaptor being released to fix the flicker at this time. The employee at JW I spoke with in early Jan. said they are experimenting with a possible fix for the flicker. But, it's not yet available. Now that I've been driving with them for several weeks, the flicker is really only noticeable when I first start up, and hardly noticeable at all when I'm out driving. I like them very much. Not at all worried about the flicker. It's so subtle, it's just not worth worrying about IMO.
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Old 02-01-2013, 08:19 AM   #1079
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Thank you Orange Peel and peck1959. I've been dying to buys these damn lights for weeks now. It sounds like its a hit or miss with the flicker and it's subtle enough to deal with. Ordering them today. I went ahead and already ordered the Recon turn signal and fender marker lights, I get those today actually.
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I have Evolution 8700's that don't flicker. JWS corrected the flicker in August. Buy the lights dated post August 17, 2012, and you'll be safe.
That isn't the exact case, OP. Some of their early units had a problem that they described as "flicker" and their new units are free from that.
The JK problem is different and is more accurately described as pulsing or cycling ----- JWS does not have a product at this time to address that. They will; TL will also.
This has been a communication snafu that nobody has tried to fully remedy for too long.

For now, I'd use a harness from rallylights and add dongles for driving lights. That's just me.
Maybe a customer could talk to Ray and have him build a shorty adapter harness like in the photos; that could have dongles coming off it as well to trip other relays.

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