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Old 11-10-2013, 01:12 AM   #1381
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How the hell do I install my truck lite fogs that I up just received today??????

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Old 11-11-2013, 08:42 AM   #1382
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How the hell do I install my truck lite fogs that I up just received today??????
Physically, or electrically? Were there no printed materials whatsoever for the electrical connections?

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Old 11-12-2013, 07:32 PM   #1383
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I have a 13 JKUR I put Jw Speakers 8700 Evo's in about 8 months ago. The flicker is getting slightly worse so I got the TL anti flicker harness. But now when my jeeps off and locked and I go to unlock it with the remote …it looks like a fu**Kin dance party!! Full strobe light until I turn it on. I'd rather deal with the slight flicker… Has this happened to anyone else???
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Old 11-18-2013, 04:50 PM   #1384
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Does anyone have a wiring diagram for rigid dually's? It'd be much appreciated
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Old 12-29-2013, 09:38 AM   #1385
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Hilly, Windy Conditions

New member and poster here.
Don't mean to hijack the thread or repost something that has already been posted.
I've reviewed all the headlights threads I could including usmcdoc's JK headlight shootout. I really appreciate all the expertise and testing done by people like Hilldweller.

I've narrowed my upgrade down to either the Northridge Truck Lite package with the modulators or the Susquehanna Hella e-code upgrade. I'm leaning towards the TL's at the moment.

I flip flop every hour on these choices. One big concern I have is driving on windy, hilly roads. We were driving our Acura the other week with HID projectors on some dark, hilly, windy roads and the abrupt cut-off made the drive very unnerving because we couldn't see where the road would lead after a dip. We had to slow down. I don't like going slow.
Does anybody have any insight or experience with the TL's in these conditions?

I've seen conflicting messages about these kinds of conditions. The promo shots looks okay and I remember someone loving the TL's while driving in Colorado but some of the limited videos I've seen have not been impressive.

Thanks in advance for the help.
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Old 12-29-2013, 01:08 PM   #1386
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New member and poster here.
Don't mean to hijack the thread or repost something that has already been posted.
I've reviewed all the headlights threads I could including usmcdoc's JK headlight shootout. I really appreciate all the expertise and testing done by people like Hilldweller.
Me too. New member, too.
Coming to the Jeep from a 2011 Volvo the headlights are rather depressing. They really don't seem any better than those on the 94 Montero that I drove before the 2 1/2 year side trip with the Volvo.

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I've narrowed my upgrade down to either the Northridge Truck Lite package with the modulators or the Susquehanna Hella e-code upgrade. I'm leaning towards the TL's at the moment.

I flip flop every hour on these choices. One big concern I have is driving on windy, hilly roads. We were driving our Acura the other week with HID projectors on some dark, hilly, windy roads and the abrupt cut-off made the drive very unnerving because we couldn't see where the road would lead after a dip. We had to slow down. I don't like going slow.
Does anybody have any insight or experience with the TL's in these conditions?

I've seen conflicting messages about these kinds of conditions. The promo shots looks okay and I remember someone loving the TL's while driving in Colorado but some of the limited videos I've seen have not been impressive.

Thanks in advance for the help.
While I don't think the TL are going to have the issues that you are seeing with the projectors (saw the same on the Volvo), I do have reservations about the TL reflector design. If you look at the spec it is a older design. That appears to be the reason for the difference between the TL and JW Speaker in performance.
My other thought was that 7" LED headlights have been available for a short time in comparison to other types of headlights. We only have two suppliers, one of which is priced out of my budget range. This technology is going to get better and cheaper.
E spec headlights have benefited from 40 years of development, so reflector design has gotten very good. If you find you need more light, you could use a relay to provide more voltage to your lights. It would be a rather simple second upgrade. However would reduce lamp life.
That's my plan at this point. I plan on having my JK for a long time, so a upgrade to LED when the technology improves, is likely.
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Old 12-29-2013, 05:22 PM   #1387
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I went with Truck-Lites and the RallyLights harness, disappointed so far. Previously had cheap eBay HIDs that were brighter with a better spread but worse cut off. If the TLs don't grow on me, going to go back to halogens with Hella E-codes or SMS bi-halogen lamps.
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Old 12-30-2013, 08:32 AM   #1388
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Got the Hella's from Susquehanna/RallyLights, they came with the full H4 harness so I can go with pretty much any bulb I want without worrying about the wiring.
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Old 12-30-2013, 12:24 PM   #1389
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Got any cut off or night shots?
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Old 01-13-2014, 11:30 PM   #1390
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Hey guys. Hope this isn't too good to be true, but I just found a set of JW Speaker 6145 fog lights in black from shopjeepparts .com for $170. I am hoping it's not a typo because this is cheaper than most places have been selling the individual fog lights for. Just wanted to share in case anyone else is thinking about taking the JW Speaker plunge. Will need to do a lot more shopping to try to find a decent deal on the headlights now. I'll follow up when they arrive!
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Old 01-13-2014, 11:55 PM   #1391
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Got the Hella's from Susquehanna/RallyLights, they came with the full H4 harness so I can go with pretty much any bulb I want without worrying about the wiring.

I did the same thing here:
Truck-Lites or another option? Here's what I did...
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Old 02-01-2014, 07:44 PM   #1392
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Old 02-25-2014, 12:15 PM   #1393
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Maxxima Headlights???

While searching for an identification for the LED headlights on the Rugged Ridge build that have the LED projector with the LED Halo ring, which I found over at 7" 11 High Power LED Crystal Headlight United Pacific



also in black 7" UNIVERSAL LED HEADLIGHT (HIGH & LOW BEAM / BLACK REFLECTOR)

I also came across the Maxxima headlights:
MHL-07HILO:┬*7" Round Dual Beam Headlamp



Anyone have any information on these?
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Old 02-25-2014, 12:29 PM   #1394
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While searching for an identification for the LED headlights on the Rugged Ridge build that have the LED projector with the LED Halo ring, which I found over at 7" 11 High Power LED Crystal Headlight United Pacific also in black 7" UNIVERSAL LED HEADLIGHT (HIGH & LOW BEAM / BLACK REFLECTOR) I also came across the Maxxima headlights: MHL-07HILO:┬ 7" Round Dual Beam Headlamp Anyone have any information on these?
Those United Pacific are like 550$ each I think.
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Old 02-25-2014, 12:38 PM   #1395
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Also, summitracing.com doesn't show them as being compatible with the Wrangler. I'm not sure if that was an over site tho?
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Old 04-18-2014, 07:23 AM   #1396
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do you guys know whats is the color temperature that jw 8700 headlight outputs when its compared to Hids ( kelvins )
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Old 04-23-2014, 10:26 AM   #1397
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Anyone have flickering with 50" light bar but seems fine with running motor, problem or just needs more juice?
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Old 04-24-2014, 05:28 PM   #1398
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Anyone have flickering with 50" light bar but seems fine with running motor, problem or just needs more juice?
No flickering what so ever ... engine on or off. I'm wired through an sPOD.
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Old 05-19-2014, 12:58 PM   #1399
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Hey guys, New to the forum and a new Jeep Owner. I've been retrofitting my own headlights for years now, and even did a couple friends accords and various trucks.. I know just about everything there is to know about headlights at this point through all my dealings and research.

With that said, i absolutely hate the way the projectors looks in our housings, and I've looked into possibly every option. The retrofit source has the plug and play Mopar HID system for Hi/Low, basically my question is does anyone have one installed and how is the glare on low? I understand these are bulbs that focus in the housing and readjust for Hi… any help is appreciated.. not sure if this was covered in here. I don't have the time to read through all of this so if it was covered just reference me the post #. Thanks guys.
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Old 05-27-2014, 09:39 AM   #1402
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While searching for an identification for the LED headlights on the Rugged Ridge build that have the LED projector with the LED Halo ring, which I found over at 7" 11 High Power LED Crystal Headlight United Pacific



also in black 7" UNIVERSAL LED HEADLIGHT (HIGH & LOW BEAM / BLACK REFLECTOR)

I also came across the Maxxima headlights:
MHL-07HILO:┬*7" Round Dual Beam Headlamp



Anyone have any information on these?
I have never seen these before, Looks like i'll be adding them to my list!
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Hi everyone - I wanted to bump this thread and introduce myself as there were a few mentions of HID projectors in this discussion.

Happy to answer any specific questions there might be about our products and am glad to be a part of this community.

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Happy to answer any specific questions there might be about our products and am glad to be a part of this community.
Sure! Because you manufacture regulated vehicle safety equipment, do you test and certify (as required by Federal Law), that your products are in compliance with all the applicable Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards?

This isn't a "because it's the law!!!" thing, this is a "do these headlamps actually perform properly and safely so nobody gets killed or hurt?" thing.
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Sure! Because you manufacture regulated vehicle safety equipment, do you test and certify (as required by Federal Law), that your products are in compliance with all the applicable Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards?

This isn't a "because it's the law!!!" thing, this is a "do these headlamps actually perform properly and safely so nobody gets killed or hurt?" thing.

The only way to approach that level of assurance is to buy the OEM products and those do not come cheap. I don't think i've seen any seller specialize in only OEM HID's...to do that, you're looking at thousands to refit a typical car. You'll need OEM housings (if they're even available for your car), OEM harness and switching, ballasts, bulbs, etc. add it up and there's no way you're getting retrofit for $200...it would be hard to keep that under $2000 on most cars.
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The only way to approach that level of assurance is to buy the OEM products and those do not come cheap
Neither do lives.

If a product isn't going to be made correctly (and proved to be made correctly through required testing) then it's not worth buying. However, there are many companies that make regulated motor vehicle safety equipment that aren't particularly expensive. The compliance testing isn't really that expensive, in the first place.

You know what IS expensive? When a manufacturer is dinged with a $6K/violation (and each LAMP constitutes a violation!) fine.

But, really, what it all comes down to from the purchaser's perspective is that "they claim it's good, but do they have actual hard proof, or do they just have testimonials and marketing-speak?"
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Old 07-30-2014, 05:28 PM   #1407
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Anyone have an experience or info on these? Headlights have built in turn signals and factory signals become DRLs
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