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Old 07-21-2012, 05:06 PM   #121
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This thread is slowly getting better and better.

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Old 07-22-2012, 02:14 AM   #122
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Fantastic! Just completed my order.

- (2x) Cibie 7" housings
- (2x) Osram bulbs (should be nice and bright)
- Rallylights H13-H4 conversion harness

I'll try to take photos as I install the harness. I've seen several folks ask for pics and I haven't seen a set (but that's not to say I haven't overlooked them).

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You overlooked them. LOL
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Old 07-23-2012, 05:18 PM   #124
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Truck-Lite LED Headlamp Kit for 07-12 Jeep® Wrangler & Wrangler Unlimited JK - Quadratec

I've seen "Truck Lite" LED's discussed before, but in every instance it seemed people were including different harnesses to eliminate flicker issues. So a couple questions

A. In the above link, are these the "Truck Lite" LED's that everyone has been discussing?

B. Do I need to purchase anything above and beyond to avoid flicker issues?

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I have read that the TIPM is the cause of the flicker. I only noticed flickering when idling.
Otherwise I have nothing but praise for the Truck-Lite LED head lights.
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Pulse width modulation (PWM is the cause of the flicker. The voltage to the lights constantly fluctuates from about 12.5V to 5V and back. But you are correct in the sense that the electronics that control the PWM are in the TIPM.
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Old 07-23-2012, 10:12 PM   #126
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Looking at doing some lighting for some off roading. im getting a new bumper and plan on adding lights to the bully bar, also plan on doing the light bar above my windshield immediately. for future lighting I will be doing some on the sides and back above my tailights.

Where do i start, i want todo to the spod but not sure if i can swing the budget for that right now.

I havent chosen the types of lights i want to do yet, if i go conventional halogen do i need to get an upgraded battery/alternator? if so i may just justify the cost of LED's because i assume i can run those of the stock battery/alternator?

im really lost, im good at electrical/wiring but kind of stumped when it comes to vehicle wiring, especially especially with calculating loads/current draw for 12v batter/alternator .

TIA!!
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Looking at doing some lighting for some off roading. im getting a new bumper and plan on adding lights to the bully bar, also plan on doing the light bar above my windshield immediately. for future lighting I will be doing some on the sides and back above my tailights.

Where do i start, i want todo to the spod but not sure if i can swing the budget for that right now.

I havent chosen the types of lights i want to do yet, if i go conventional halogen do i need to get an upgraded battery/alternator? if so i may just justify the cost of LED's because i assume i can run those of the stock battery/alternator?

im really lost, im good at electrical/wiring but kind of stumped when it comes to vehicle wiring, especially especially with calculating loads/current draw for 12v batter/alternator .

TIA!!
If you are planning a lot of electrical accessories, an SPOD is the way to go. I'm not aware that lighting will add enough load to require a bigger battery, certainly no alternator change either. going all LED at 1/10 the load would insure that. Having said that I am not an expert in charging. If you want to add a winch and/or air compressor, then a bigger battery would be a consideration IMHO.
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Old 07-23-2012, 10:40 PM   #128
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If you are planning a lot of electrical accessories, an SPOD is the way to go. I'm not aware that lighting will add enough load to require a bigger battery, certainly no alternator change either. going all LED at 1/10 the load would insure that. Having said that I am not an expert in charging. If you want to add a winch and/or air compressor, then a bigger battery would be a consideration IMHO.
Thanks, Trying to weed through this thread trying to get an idea of what needs to be done (MODS: this is very difficult as this thread gets "derailed" and the OP's question never answered)

i think your right and i need to invest in a spod, if i read right it ties into the PWM? and also ties into the stock system so your forced to use high beams to turn on/off the aux lighting? required in NJ

i guess LED is the way to go, i guess ill purchase the Spod/two front duallys and when budget allows get my lightbar/lights.

Why wont that money tree grow any faster
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Thanks, Trying to weed through this thread trying to get an idea of what needs to be done (MODS: this is very difficult as this thread gets "derailed" and the OP's question never answered)

i think your right and i need to invest in a spod, if i read right it ties into the PWM? and also ties into the stock system so your forced to use high beams to turn on/off the aux lighting? required in NJ

i guess LED is the way to go, i guess ill purchase the Spod/two front duallys and when budget allows get my lightbar/lights.
Actually, the SPOD completely bypasses the Jeep electrical system and creates a separate system for accessories. If you use an SPOD the lights will only function using the SPOD switches. The SPOD system is fused and has a low voltage protection to prevent draining the battery if you leave something on.

If you read the threads between Silversport & myself, I wanted to have my aux lights switched with the high beams because my usage would mostly be on paved roads.

There is a good thread about the SPOD showing how to install it. The installation looks well thought out and very easy to do. If I decide to add any additional electrical accessories, I'm going the SPOD route as well.
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Here's the link to the SPOD installation thread: http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/s-p...on-168498.html
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Thanks for taking the time and explaining that to me, i guess when i go through inspection i could just pull the lights off as we only get inspected every 5 years, i want to stay legal just incase a cop is having a bad day you know but i suppose a "maybe" ticket would be cheaper then tying into the electrical system and frying it.

i suppose the spod is the only way to go and the switch location is sweet. i do want to add a winch/air compressor but i want lights first so u suppose ill cross that bridge when i get there.

im still trying to read through all the pages and posts, like i said its difficult because some questions are answered in the middle of others
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Is there a circuit that I can tap into to illuminate the white Halo ring as DRL ONLY when in gear?
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/hal...ku-176299.html

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Old 07-26-2012, 11:35 AM   #133
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Does anyone else feel that this is not how we want our light questions answered. Seperate topics are needed with the massive amount of light options that are available. Not impressed with posts being closed and pushed here.
Mike, you arent seeing the big picture.

By consolidating all of the lighting posts under this one thread, it saves all of the members the arduous effort of having to sort through hundreds of seperate threads on the same topic...they will simply go to one thread to sort through thousands of individual posts to find the info they want. For example, while this one-stop-shop for questions on JK HEADLIGHT mods...roughly 1/3 of the posts are actually discussing off-road or other add-on lights..not headlights. But dont get all tripped-up in details.

This is part of the movement to get folks to use the search feature so that they dont have to read the other posts.

I cant wait for the consolidation of :
All bumper discussions
All wheel/tire discussions
All lift/suspension discussions
All top (Soft/hard/none) discussions
All towing and being-towed discussions.
All mechanical/electrical mod discussions.

Heck...the ultimate extrapolation of this methodology is...consolidation of ALL discussions...no individual threads at all.

True assimilation.

Exciting times.
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Is there a circuit that I can tap into to illuminate the white Halo ring as DRL ONLY when in gear?
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/hal...ku-176299.html

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I'll ask around. Usually drl is the low beam headlight at a reduced voltage.
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......Usually drl is the low beam headlight at a reduced voltage.
Correct.
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I'll ask around. Usually drl is the low beam headlight at a reduced voltage.
Not sure about usually, but my two cars with DRLs used the high beams at low (PWM'ed) voltage
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The programmer can set the DRL to be either:
Fog lights,
Parking lights,
Headlights low
Headlights dim.

I dont want any of those.
I want the white "Halo" ring to ACT AS DRL and come on only when in-gear...not when the engine is running but in park....

See Post # 132 to a link to my original post before it got closed.

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Not sure about usually, but my two cars with DRLs used the high beams at low (PWM'ed) voltage
Yeah, I had a brain fart. It is high beams. So if one burns out, you still have the lowbeams.
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Start reading from post 293 for dialog:
Headlight Shootout - Page 20 - JeepForum.com

I'm shifting gears and throwing in a TJ ---- they use 7" lights, already are wired for an H4 terminal.
These are lights that could be put in a JK with a harness or adapter, hence the post.

Heavily modified TJ, questionable alternator and battery, stock wiring.
Headlights are these "show only" lights



They performed miserably.

Markers are at 25yards L/R, 50 yards L/R, 75 yards L/R -- ~25' apart.
Vehicle is on the right side of a 2-lane road, driver's tire ~21" from curb; camera on hood in front of driver. All photos are on full auto "night mode" but ambient light varies greatly.

2 additional readings at 25' center and 109 yards center.

Lux readings Lowbeam/Highbeam:

We thought it was full-dark out but it wasn't; ambient light was 1 LUX in these two photos

25Right-8/ 19 * 25Left-3/ 3

50Right-1/ 7 * 50Left-3/ 4

75Right-0/ 4 * 75Left-1/ 2

25 feet dead center 124/ 1119

109 yards Highbeam only: 5



LOWbeam


HIGHbeam
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Same heavily modified TJ, questionable alternator and battery, stock wiring.
Headlights are now the new JW Speaker model #8700 Evolution.
Plastic lens, smaller overall package than the old design. 5 minute mod for a TJ; no harness or adapter needed
No hassle install on a JK --- no mods to stock plastic or airbag sensor. Until a good dongle is released, a full bypass harness will eliminate flicker in a JK.

Markers are at 25yards L/R, 50 yards L/R, 75 yards L/R -- ~25' apart.
Vehicle is on the right side of a 2-lane road, driver's tire ~21" from curb; camera on hood in front of driver. All photos are on full auto "night mode" but ambient light varies greatly.

2 additional readings at 25' center and 109 yards center.

Lux readings Lowbeam/Highbeam:

25Right-59/ 64 * 25Left-16/ 16

50Right-9/ 46 * 50Left-2/ 6

75Right-3/ 26 * 75Left-0/ 3

25 feet dead center 656/ 1477

109 yards Highbeam only: 11 --- highest I've recorded on any headlight.

Installed:


LOWbeam


HIGHbeam
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Trucklite Phase 7, 7" round LED headlight on a Jeep JKUR with SMS full harness:

There is a pair of light artifact "X's" created by the LEDs that can cause target fixation.
The color might be endearing or annoying.

The numbers speak for themselves. The lowbeams make more light off-axis than straight ahead. They are wonderful for spotting the stray dog or child about to run into your lane.

Markers are at 25yards L/R, 50 yards L/R, 75 yards L/R
Jeep is on the right side of a 2-lane road; camera on hood in front of driver. Reading are taken at 12" height from road surface --- this is an important stat since the LUX number is higher at different heights. But, for consistency, the 12" number should be used to compare to other lights previously tested.

Ambient illumination from stars less than 1 LUX
Lights are aimed with about a 2" drop at 25

Lux readings Lowbeam/Highbeam:

25Right-26/ 39 * 25Left-24/ 24

50Right-3/ 23 * 50Left-4/ 15

75Right-1/ 13 * 75Left-1/ 7

25 feet dead center 416/ 1870

8 LUX at 125 yards center; enough to read by.

Photos: don't pay attention to the dark V at the bottom; this is an artifact from a prerunner bar.

Lowbeam:


Highbeam:


Showing the X:


Looking at the highbeams:
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More shots of the JKUR with Trucklite Phase 7s.





And photos taken at the racetrack on the night we tested the JW Speaker lights. These pics make for an easier comparison to the competing lights.
The artifact caused by the prerunner bar cannot be seen while driving; the photo sees more than the driver.

Lowbeam



Highbeam
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Looks like allot of light from those speakers, I just wish they wanted to compete with the trucklites price wise.
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So on the Rigid Industries Dually D2 lights, why would anyone pick the diffused or 60 degree lights over the "driving" lights?



From that chart, it looks like the driving lights put out just as much light at shorter distances (more so actually). The "flood" effect of the other lights doesn't seem to scatter all that much more light to the sides. Or am I misreading the chart?
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Got my headlamp housings in today. I was very surprised when I opened the box and saw "Valeo" given that I had ordered Cibie housings. Scratching my head, I took a look at the various parts and took some photos to share with everyone for reference. Although it says "Valeo", they are Cibie headlamp housings.

Outside of the box


On the inside


A closer look


The Cibie stamp



Additional markings on the lamp


Cibie marking on the dust boot


And here's the made in France stamp

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Got my headlamp housings in today. I was very surprised when I opened the box and saw "Valeo" given that I had ordered Cibie housings. Scratching my head, I took a look at the various parts and took some photos to share with everyone for reference. Although it says "Valeo", they are Cibie headlamp housings.

Outside of the box

On the inside

A closer look

The Cibie stamp

Additional markings on the lamp

Cibie marking on the dust boot

And here's the made in France stamp
Cibie is a subsidiary of Valeo.
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Cibie is a subsidiary of Valeo.
Well that answers my confusion. Good to know!
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So on the Rigid Industries Dually D2 lights, why would anyone pick the diffused or 60 degree lights over the "driving" lights?



From that chart, it looks like the driving lights put out just as much light at shorter distances (more so actually). The "flood" effect of the other lights doesn't seem to scatter all that much more light to the sides. Or am I misreading the chart?
The Dually diffused push more light to the side sooner. From the chart, light is out to 30 meters while only 15 meters from the headlights. With the driving lights, its closer to 40 meters. A matter of preference, I guess. If you wanted more light to the sides up close to the vehicle.
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Black headlights and fog lights

I tried to find some info about this in this thread but it's huge. So I'm going to piss off some members and post my question here (sorry if I am annoying anyone).

I want black headlights and fog lights. My Jeep is all black and I would liek to keep with that theme. I have many questions and I hope maybe someone will be kind enough to help me. Plus I am trying to do this on the phone app, which just makes it super hard.

1) where do I find black headlights and fog lights that are legal and bright
2) what should I be paying...saw just the headlights for $800...that is not cheap and I won't pay that.
3) are they easy to install?
4) If they are LED, can I just plug and go or do I need extra parts and stuff to convert it?
5) I did look up JW speakers but didn't see prices. I saw some others for cheaper but it wasn't for my year of jeep....does it matter?
6) Didn't even find fog lights....do they exist?

I know nothing about headlights or replacing headlights or fog light or anything. So please talk to me like i am 4 years old.
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The cheap and easy way would be to use nightshade on the lenses if you don't want to upgrade you lights

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