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Old 08-20-2012, 09:14 AM   #211
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Hi from Sweden

I bought D2 Dually Driving beam (50231), White LED + smittybilt bracket (7690) and it includes a harness and internal switch from ORW Off Road Warehouse and it is rather easy to install.

I have never installed lights before.

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I find it very strange that it is so difficult to mount lights on a Wrangler, it should be more prepared from the factory. There are no mounting points on the bumper from factory, and I dont no if the Quadratec bracket will fit a European bumper and even so it seems that stuff need to be relocated to get it to fit. The Wrangler should be prepared with internal switches and harness from the beginning. There should be some more prepared holes through the firewall.

I am no expert in this field and gave up the thought to have lights on the bumper, I even asked my local 4x4 shop and they did not no how to fit the lights on the bumper because they did not have bracket for a wrangler. If I had a Volvo it would not be a problem with brackets for lights.

Anyway, so I went the easy way and hade help from a friend that now more than me and putted Duallys on Smittybillt brackets on the A-pillar, mounted directly to the battery and then mounted the internal switch on the plastic cover. There are already a hole there and I just mounted a rubber grommet and then pushed the internal switch into place, no need to drill.



Pushed the button cable through here. Took away the insulation, taped the switch leads to a wire and pulled it through. After that I putted some new insulation in the hole.



The cable comes out here. Have to take of the A pillar covers, beginning with the visor mount.



Cutted out a rubber piece from a bike tire to protect the paint when I mounted the Smittybillt brackets on the A-pillar.



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Nice job, Omar!

One reason there is a lack of brackets for mounting lights to the factory bumper is that so many owners end up replacing the factory bumper with one that does have light mounting options.

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OK, new to the forum here, but been a Jeep owner for many years. Just now getting into planning some mods for my 2008 JK Sahara.

I understand this is the place for lighting questions, so here goes....

I've pretty much decided I'm going to get the Rigid Dually D2's for my windshield lighting, in the spot format.

I'm thinking about adding the Mopar/Rugged Ridge light bar to the front factory bumper and adding 3 lights there. I was looking at the Hella Optilux HID's (4" or 7").

I'd also (at some point) like to upgrade my factory headlights to the Truck-Lite LEDs.

I'll probably get a Rugged Ridge A-Pillar switch pod to control these lights.

My main question is......should I do this? Overkill? I like the D2's for the windshield, but I'd like to stick with round lights in the front near the grille.

Just curious to get your thoughts on this.....thanks.

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Old 08-20-2012, 12:58 PM   #213
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OK, new to the forum here, but been a Jeep owner for many years. Just now getting into planning some mods for my 2008 JK Sahara.

I understand this is the place for lighting questions, so here goes....

I've pretty much decided I'm going to get the Rigid Dually D2's for my windshield lighting, in the spot format.

I'm thinking about adding the Mopar/Rugged Ridge light bar to the front factory bumper and adding 3 lights there. I was looking at the Hella Optilux HID's (4" or 7").

I'd also (at some point) like to upgrade my factory headlights to the Truck-Lite LEDs.

I'll probably get a Rugged Ridge A-Pillar switch pod to control these lights.

My main question is......should I do this? Overkill? I like the D2's for the windshield, but I'd like to stick with round lights in the front near the grille.

Just curious to get your thoughts on this.....thanks.
IMHO: Do what makes you happy & what fits your driving needs
Here are some things to consider:
- Remember to appropriately fuse everything.
- If everything comes from the battery, remember to turn everything off, least you run down your battery.
- If you tie into one of the factory circuits, protect the circuit with appropriate doides & capacitors. You can buy wiring harness overlays from SMS or Daniel Stern, or you can make your own.
- consider future electrical mods, if you plan to add onboard air, winch, etc, later consider an S-POD module as your first mod.
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IMHO: Do what makes you happy & what fits your driving needs
Here are some things to consider:
- Remember to appropriately fuse everything.
- If everything comes from the battery, remember to turn everything off, least you run down your battery.
- If you tie into one of the factory circuits, protect the circuit with appropriate doides & capacitors. You can buy wiring harness overlays from SMS or Daniel Stern, or you can make your own.
- consider future electrical mods, if you plan to add onboard air, winch, etc, later consider an S-POD module as your first mod.
Thanks. I'm almost 100% sure that I'd have someone else do the install, as that's not my expertise by any means.

Regarding the mix of LEDs and HIDs that I mentioned, does that sound okay? Where can I find out what's legal ON-road? Are HIDs on a front bumper legal, etc.? I'm in South Carolina. If it's illegal except for off-road, that's fine, just trying to gather information.
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Sorry, this question will be completely out of sync, but I don't think it can go anywhere else.

So after you install an sPOD, you connect the aux lights to one of the relays? There is no direct light to battery connection? What do you buy to run from the light to the sPOD relay?

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Where can I find out what's legal ON-road?
This is a long read but will tell you alot.
Headlight Shootout - JeepForum.com

It starts with one of the worst lights and then there are highs and lows.
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What did everyone pay for their rally lights harness? It is 161.44 plus tax and shipping now. I thought it was cheaper than that. I wish someone could come up with a trucklite dongle.
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Sorry, this question will be completely out of sync, but I don't think it can go anywhere else.

So after you install an sPOD, you connect the aux lights to one of the relays? There is no direct light to battery connection? What do you buy to run from the light to the sPOD relay?

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The S-POD setup has details, basically one properly sized wire runs from the s-pod to the light, then from the light to ground.
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What did everyone pay for their rally lights harness? It is 161.44 plus tax and shipping now. I thought it was cheaper than that. I wish someone could come up with a trucklite dongle.
Quadratec said they are getting one.. but sadly not yet. I will just ride out the flicker for a bit.. at 400+ for the lights I will have too

Is there only ONE adjusting screw per light? Or am i missing something?
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Old 08-20-2012, 06:36 PM   #220
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I am installing the following:
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2 Piaa 520's ATP 6 inch Lights
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Here is my question...the mopar bar holds 3 lights...I was thinking putting a Dually in the middle with a separate switch to the a pillar. Is that a dumb set up? I did not want 3 6 inch lights because the grill would be somewhat hidden. Any other suggestions? I use my Jeep to ski with no real off roading. I also want to fill the switch panel up a bit. Thanks
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When I bought my 2011 JKU in April this year I noticed driving home that same day that my low beams had an HID quality to them. I popped the hood and found two ballasts for Xenon Digital HID system ES 0511. I was pretty happy with that since I wanted to replace them anyway. So the other day I go to use my high beams and my headlights go out. It seems like what ever system the previous owner put in doesn't have high beams.

How do I fix this?
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Go back to factory (the original ahrnesses should still be there), find a HID bulb that has high and low, or scrap the HIDs and do a legal upgrade.
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What did everyone pay for their rally lights harness? It is 161.44 plus tax and shipping now. I thought it was cheaper than that. I wish someone could come up with a trucklite dongle.
Wow. They must have raised their price. I bought one right at a month ago and it was way cheaper:

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I am installing the following:
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2 Piaa 520's ATP 6 inch Lights
Rugged Ridge A Pillar Switches
Here is my question...the mopar bar holds 3 lights...I was thinking putting a Dually in the middle with a separate switch to the a pillar. Is that a dumb set up? I did not want 3 6 inch lights because the grill would be somewhat hidden. Any other suggestions? I use my Jeep to ski with no real off roading. I also want to fill the switch panel up a bit. Thanks
I have the 520ATP's, their package comes with a switch included in the wiring harness. no need for the additional switches, if you don't have any other electrical mods planned. As far as the third light goes, you seem to be asking a styling question rather than a function question, two large round lights and one small square light. If you are OK with it, go for it.
Remember to add a fuse to the power lead and the signal lead, if both go to the battery.

PS: How do you ski with your Jeep?
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Where is the cheapest place to purchase Dually D2's now? I'm going to use the Rugged Ridge a-pillar switch pod with it on my 08 Sahara. Will I need to purchase any additional wiring harnesses for it?


Also, are there LED options for replacing stock fog lights?
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What did everyone pay for their rally lights harness? It is 161.44 plus tax and shipping now. I thought it was cheaper than that. I wish someone could come up with a trucklite dongle.
My harness was about $143 + shipping. I still think an upgraded harness would be a good investment even with the Trucklites. They would get full voltage instead of the PWM.
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Plus, with a harness, you can add extra dongles for driving lights, flood lights, etc. I did that and it is designed by Ray to work seamlessly and safely.
I had my Trucklite flamethrowers rigged to only come on with highbeams and my Trucklite floods could come on any time I had at least the parking lights on.

Having a harness with caps and resistors means that you won't anger the TIPM or canbus and won't eat your relays alive. No fires too.
Lights are important. It's worth having good ones and wiring them right.
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Where is the cheapest place to purchase Dually D2's now? I'm going to use the Rugged Ridge a-pillar switch pod with it on my 08 Sahara. Will I need to purchase any additional wiring harnesses for it?


Also, are there LED options for replacing stock fog lights?

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Look after them on amazon or ebay. If you buy 2 dually you will get a harness with fuse and even a internal switch. Take of the internal switch and plugg it into your Rugged Ridge a-pillar switch pod.

I found a really good price from amazon, but they did not want to send it to sweden, that is thers lost.

I bought mine from orw with smittybilt brackets
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Plus, with a harness, you can add extra dongles for driving lights, flood lights, etc. I did that and it is designed by Ray to work seamlessly and safely.
I had my Trucklite flamethrowers rigged to only come on with highbeams and my Trucklite floods could come on any time I had at least the parking lights on.

Having a harness with caps and resistors means that you won't anger the TIPM or canbus and won't eat your relays alive. No fires too.
Lights are important. It's worth having good ones and wiring them right.
Eeek... so these plug and play trucklites can light on fire?
What Extra direct wiring harness do I need? I was emailing back and forth with a gal at Truck Lite and she said they are working on a relay for the flicker in our newer jeeps. Mines not too bad but still annoying. Id like to get the harness but 162$? Yikes!
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What is a dongle? I searched, nothin comes up.
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Go back to factory (the original ahrnesses should still be there), find a HID bulb that has high and low, or scrap the HIDs and do a legal upgrade.
Well I do want to be legal so I'm most likely going with the Truck Lite headlamps and Rally Lights harness.

Just want to make sure I'm getting the right ones. I would want to get these headlamps SET OF 2 Truck-Lite 7'' Round LED Headlamp, Complex Reflector Optics Design Phase 7 27270C with the HL28130J - From H13 to H4 2007> Jeep Wrangler (NOT for DRL) harness?
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Ordered my harness today and talked to Ray. He was excellent to deal with and I got a extra high beam tap added to control a future rigid setup and he built and shipped it out by closing time today. Can't beat that. He did say they just implemented a price increase unfortunately. I'm getting close to being able to see where I am going and see the deer before I hit one.
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What is a dongle? I searched, nothin comes up.
Not sure what it means to hilldweller but to me it means a jumper harness or upgraded harness.

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Well I do want to be legal so I'm most likely going with the Truck Lite headlamps and Rally Lights harness.

Just want to make sure I'm getting the right ones. I would want to get these headlamps SET OF 2 Truck-Lite 7'' Round LED Headlamp, Complex Reflector Optics Design Phase 7 27270C with the HL28130J - From H13 to H4 2007> Jeep Wrangler (NOT for DRL) harness?
Not sure if those are the latest and greatest version of the Trucklites.

If you get the upgraded harness it will have the H4 connectors and will deliver full constant voltage to the Trucklites.

Note: If you install these lights you will need to turn off the DRLs.
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Eeek... so these plug and play trucklites can light on fire?
No.

People who t-tap their pulsewidth modulated circuits without a cap and resistor will eventually encounter either a fire or compromised relays/tipm/canbus of some sort.

Dongle is a generic term for a lead. In the case I'm using, Ray would add any sort of dongle you can think of. I had him make me a separate one for the unused driver's side terminal to control my driving lights. It bothered me that I had a terminal hanging there...
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Not sure if those are the latest and greatest version of the Trucklites.

If you get the upgraded harness it will have the H4 connectors and will deliver full constant voltage to the Trucklites.

Note: If you install these lights you will need to turn off the DRLs.
I'll have to look into if those are the new ones or not.

I believe that harness has the H4 connectors doesn't it? I'm going to email them and ask if they can add DRL connectors too.
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OK, I've decided that I'm probably going with Rigid Dually D2s for the windshield and I'm looking at D2s to replace my factory foglights on my factory bumper as well. I found a Poison Spyder bracket that will allow the D2s to mount in the factory fog locations.

Question is......would D2s be legal as fog replacements? I run my fogs alot, and would not want to be limited to off-road with those. I realize that the windshield lights may have some restrictions, but that's okay.

In that location, is there that much difference between the Dually and the D2?
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Ray would add any sort of dongle you can think of. I had him make me a separate one for the unused driver's side terminal to control my driving lights. It bothered me that I had a terminal hanging there...
That's a great idea. Thanks for the tip!

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I'll have to look into if those are the new ones or not.

I believe that harness has the H4 connectors doesn't it? I'm going to email them and ask if they can add DRL connectors too.
What I meant is the the DRLs are your headlights and they run on partial voltage. If you get the Trucklites and the H13 to H4 dongle, the Trucklites will only get half voltage during the daytime. Might not be good for their life. If you get the upgraded harness, the relays in the ahrness would get half voltage. Again, not good for the relays.
You would need to turn off the headlights as your DRLs. I used the Procal to make my fogs my DRLs.

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OK, I've decided that I'm probably going with Rigid Dually D2s for the windshield and I'm looking at D2s to replace my factory foglights on my factory bumper as well. I found a Poison Spyder bracket that will allow the D2s to mount in the factory fog locations.

Question is......would D2s be legal as fog replacements? I run my fogs alot, and would not want to be limited to off-road with those. I realize that the windshield lights may have some restrictions, but that's okay.

In that location, is there that much difference between the Dually and the D2?
The difference between the Duallys and D2s is the D2s have an extra pair of LEDs. I have no knowledge of the legal aspect but both are available with amber lenses if you desire. Yellow light is better for foul weather.
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What I meant is the the DRLs are your headlights and they run on partial voltage. If you get the Trucklites and the H13 to H4 dongle, the Trucklites will only get half voltage during the daytime. Might not be good for their life. If you get the upgraded harness, the relays in the ahrness would get half voltage. Again, not good for the relays.
You would need to turn off the headlights as your DRLs. I used the Procal to make my fogs my DRLs.
Oh I gotcha. So basically I need the Truck Lites, the Rally harness to prevent flickering and the Procal to make something else (like my fogs) the DRLs.

Sorry for being ignorant. First time with this kind of electrical system. I have always been able to plug and play without worrying about relays or flickering and all that.
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Oh I gotcha. So basically I need the Truck Lites, the Rally harness to prevent flickering and the Procal to make something else (like my fogs) the DRLs.

Sorry for being ignorant. First time with this kind of electrical system. I have always been able to plug and play without worrying about relays or flickering and all that.
No apology necessary. Just sharing knowledge I learned here on WF.
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Upgraded my headlights last night. Still need to adjust them, but it's a big difference.

I got H4 Cibies, Philips 100/90w bulbs and a new harness. Pretty easy install, although fishing the harness around took some time. That engine bay really is tightly packed on the 2012.

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