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Old 04-07-2013, 07:07 AM   #1
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Truck-Lite Fitment issue

Installed my Phase 7 Truck-Lites yesterday.

Passenger side installed with no issue.

Driver side had a lot of play, once the silver o-ring was reinstalled I could wiggle the lamp assembly by a good 1/8" of an inch. I wound up putting some electrical tape in each of the tab positions, but I was wondering why there was so much difference between the two of them?

Regarding performance... really nice light output, the hi beams are fantastic. The hot spot takes some getting used to, but I passed about a dozen people including a local police officer and no one flashed me. I think I want someone to drive my Jeep by me so I can see what my drive-by looks like.

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Old 04-07-2013, 08:54 AM   #2
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hmmm, have you tried putting the passenger side lamp in the driver's socket and vise-versa? This would tell you if the actual lamps are different or if they are possibly just mounted slightly differently. I know on my TJ, the first time I put them in, one of the sides was fairly loose, but then after some adjusting and swapping, I was able to get them both to snug up.

I have yet to get any unwanted attention from Johnny Law about them, and I frequently pass the local police who have nothing better to do than to sit on a blind canyon corner and nail you for anything they can. I, too, would love to see what my Jeep looks like on a pass-by from another vehicle - my wife isn't the best at driving a standard, though.

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Old 04-07-2013, 08:26 PM   #3
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I've heard of people having the same issue and if i remember right they say something about it on their site. The fix is to install some thin weather stripping material around the light. Hope this helps. I love the one I have on my Harley, gonna put 2 on the Jeep soon.
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Old 04-07-2013, 08:40 PM   #4
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I'll see what I can do the next warm day we have, for now they seem pretty snug and aimed pretty nicely. Not one flash yet from oncoming traffic. Loving them so far.
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I've heard of people having the same issue and if i remember right they say something about it on their site. The fix is to install some thin weather stripping material around the light. Hope this helps. I love the one I have on my Harley, gonna put 2 on the Jeep soon.
I had the same issue. I used a little bit of electrical tape inside the ring to help hold things in place better.
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Old 04-22-2013, 07:46 PM   #6
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Installed mine this afternoon. Exact same issue. Passenger snug, driver side wiggly. did the electrical tape trick, but not liking it. Gonna pull that light this weekend and use the weather stripping suggestion from above.

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Old 04-30-2013, 03:40 PM   #7
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Since there are a few people here with them installed, has anyone else noticed kind of a vertical squiggly bright area that extends a little beyond where the "cut-off" line is? I notice this with mine, and it seems to be right in peoples rear-view mirrors when I'm behind them. I haven't gotten a middle finger yet, but it is noticeable when I drive.
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anyone else noticed kind of a vertical squiggly bright area that extends a little beyond where the "cut-off" line?
Yes, I think they all have that. It is an artifact from the LED and how it interacts with the reflector. Mine stops right at the cutoff. If yours is right in people's mirrors, you probably need to adjust it down.

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Yes, I think they all have that. It is an artifact from the LED and how it interacts with the reflector. Mine stops right at the cutoff. If yours is right in people's mirrors, you probably need to adjust it down.

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The horizontal cutoff is adjusted properly, but that little squiggly goes up a few feet. If I were to adjust it to where that squiggly was down far enough, wouldn't my cutoff line drop significantly as well?
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My V's are right at the cutoff, not above it. I'll look again tonight, but I could swear they are rightat the same level.
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My V's are right at the cutoff, not above it. I'll look again tonight, but I could swear they are rightat the same level.

I'm pretty sure my V's are at the cutoff line level, but there is another little thin squiggly line that protrudes upward in the middle, almost like it is something coming off the edge of the reflectors. I'll see If I can get a picture of it tonight.
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I guess I have a little bit of a squiggle above the cutoff. I've never noticed it anywhere except on my garage door <10 feet in front of me though. Definitely never seen it on people's rear view mirrors like you described.
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Odd that the driver's side is a bit loose. Anybody know if the JW Speakers do the same thing?
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Odd that the driver's side is a bit loose. Anybody know if the JW Speakers do the same thing?
I hear no issues with the JW. I know you are researching as hard as I am on these but I think I am going to do the JW headlamps and fogs.
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Old 05-19-2013, 03:55 PM   #15
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Driver's side seems to be a bit loose with 2-3 mm of side-to-side play. That seems to be a Jeep issue in the sense that both headlights are identical. I put a bit of elastic electrical tape on one of the tabs, and it is perfect. I marked my garage with the stock headlights (blue painter's tap) and the aim seems to be very close. I just installed them and while it is bright outside now, I will go out at night and check them out. I could not take the grill out since my Zeon winch was in the way, so it took a bit longer with the grill kinda hanging in there, with the top tabs out and the bottom tabs partially out.

I am all done, and will wait for it to get dark. These are supposed to be brighter than the JW, but if I feel any play, I will probably switch them out. They look and feel very solid though, and heavier than stock, of course.
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They are brighter than the last generation Truck Lites but I don't think they are brighter than the JW's. At least from what I have been seeing. JW's are a higher quality light for sure. As far as the new JW fogs, they have lost their mind if they think I am spending almost $300 a piece for them.
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They are bright enough but there is a pretty bright area of the beam that is almost too reflective. It is a bit distracting and in my opinion, the beam pattern needs to be refined. I like the peripheral/side light but the main beam is very distracting and bothers my eyes. Maybe I will get used to it. The two X artifacts are not as bad as the glare of the beams. It is not brighter than a high-end HID, so it isn't too bright. The beam just produces a weird glare, and along with the artifacts, it will take me a while to get get used to it. I suspect the JWs have a more refined beam pattern with better diffusion.
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They are bright enough but there is a pretty bright area of the beam that is almost too reflective. It is a bit distracting and in my opinion, the beam pattern needs to be refined. I like the peripheral/side light but the main beam is very distracting and bothers my eyes. Maybe I will get used to it. The two X artifacts are not as bad as the glare of the beams. It is not brighter than a high-end HID, so it isn't too bright. The beam just produces a weird glare, and along with the artifacts, it will take me a while to get get used to it. I suspect the JWs have a more refined beam pattern with better diffusion.
Good info, thanks bro. I found the JW's for under $700 with a discount code, but still a few hundred more than the Truck Lites. I am leaning towards the JW's but I am sure either would do well. I may not even mess with the fogs if I get the JW's.
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Sgt93: please PM me with the info for the JW, if you don't mind. I am sending the TL back. My eyes cannot handle the crazy beam pattern, and I am used to LEDs. On my mtn bike, I have a German LED light (Lupine)- I have two models actually. The Betty has seven LEDs and over 3,000 raw Lumens. The pattern is clean and one swath of light with no artifacts. Been using it for two years, along with another one that uses a reflector. Yes, they are expensive (the Betty is more than two JWs) but both are fantastic beam patterns, better than all the HIDs I owned. The TL beam is driving me crazy. I cannot handle it. The bright reflectiveness close to the vehicle, and trying to focus past the Xs is fatiguing my eyes. Strange...my eyes must be sensitive to them. Never had this happen in 20+ years of driving.

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