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Old 05-04-2013, 08:56 PM   #1
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Truck Lite/JW Speakers or HID Projectors?

Struggling between the basic LED vs. HID but these both look good. The only potential issue with the Truck Lites is that super-bright area right in front of the vehicle. Not sure I like that, since I THINK it focuses the eyes there, instead of further ahead where the focus should lie. Am I over-thinking this?

Not sure if JW Speaker has this issue or not. The HID Projector lights have a great pattern, but I am not sure about the extra stuff (ballasts) and the overall reliability of the ballasts and bulbs compared to LED...which is solid-state and very durable.

Need to decide but having a bit of trouble My JKs stock lights are okay in town but they freak me out of dark twisty mountian roads and highways. I can't see much to the sides or out in the distance.

What do you guys think? What would you go with?

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I have the trucklites, and have had HID's on all of my past vehicles. Here is my opinion. If you are looking for "down the road" light, go with the HID's. They will throw the bright light further without lighting in front of you too much. The LED's are great, and I prefer them, but as you mentioned, they do give an nice even light all the way out. The way I see it, is when I'm driving in the day, everything is lit evenly. When I drive at night, I like to have this same look as you never know what is going to run out right in front of you, and the LED's give a nice throw out to the sides as well. I guess it's all in how your eyes work. PM me your email and I will send you some pictures comparing the stockers to the LED's.

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Old 05-07-2013, 04:05 PM   #3
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PM sent. I do like that pattern, and I don't go on these crazy high-speed runs. It's just nice to see up ahead in case a deer is lurking. I may just get these LEDs and then look at supplemental driving lights for those narrow dark highways- something I can switch on and quickly off in case of oncoming traffic.
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PM sent. I do like that pattern, and I don't go on these crazy high-speed runs. It's just nice to see up ahead in case a deer is lurking. I may just get these LEDs and then look at supplemental driving lights for those narrow dark highways- something I can switch on and quickly off in case of oncoming traffic.

That is exactly what I did. I put some rigid dually d2s on the corner of my bumper, if I really need to light up a dark road, I just flip the switch on for those things and can almost see through things, haha.
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Old 05-23-2013, 09:41 PM   #5
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I spent alot of time debating between LED and HID Projector...

I had hid projectors in my last vehicle so figured I would give leds a try this time...

i went with jw speaker but waiting for them to be delivered been back ordered from rebel offroad for two weeks, the biggest selling point was that they are coming out with matching fog lights

i havent read a bad review of jw speaker yet so crossing my fingers
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Old 05-24-2013, 02:51 AM   #6
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Question,, I kept reading that the JW's were twice the price of Trck-Lites,, all the prices I've seen have been within $15 bucks or so of each other,, am I missing something here? Is there a higher end model ?? I also am contemplating the upgrade on my headlights but I'm not sure out of the two which way to go. HID isn't in the running. Any advice?

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Old 05-24-2013, 06:04 AM   #7
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truck lite you can get for 500$

http://www.quadratec.com/products/97009_8000.htm

the cheapest I have seen jw speaker is in the 700's

http://www.rebeloffroad.com/product-p/jw8700kit.htm

there are some sites I have seen the 8700 for 500 but it was a single headlight not the pair, have you seen different?
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Question,, I kept reading that the JW's were twice the price of Trck-Lites,, all the prices I've seen have been within $15 bucks or so of each other,, am I missing something here? Is there a higher end model ?? I also am contemplating the upgrade on my headlights but I'm not sure out of the two which way to go. HID isn't in the running. Any advice?

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The price is close, if you only want one JW headlight
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$400 for a pair with free shipping on the Truck-lite's. I bought mine from this guy and had them the next day!

Truck Lite 27270C 7" Round LED Headlamp Complex Reflector Trucklite Trucklight | eBay
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The price is close, if you only want one JW headlight


Wow,,, I never read the fine print on Ebay. Who in the he!! sells head lights seperate ???? Geez,,,Truck lights are looking better now...

So are the JW's light years ahead ? Big price jump.

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It's pretty common with the 7" round headlamp. Motorcycles, for example, generally use one headlight. Why would they buy two?
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Awesome find thank you.

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$400 for a pair with free shipping on the Truck-lite's. I bought mine from this guy and had them the next day!

Truck Lite 27270C 7" Round LED Headlamp Complex Reflector Trucklite Trucklight | eBay
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I ended up returning my TLs after a couple of days. I didn't like the reflective foreground, nor the artifacts. I found the foreground lighting a bit too reflective and they fatigued my eyes. I am in the minority but I prefer the clean beam pattern of the stock lights. However, they are simply not bright enough. I'll figure out the next step- JW Speaker or the HIDs.
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I ended up returning my TLs after a couple of days. I didn't like the reflective foreground, nor the artifacts. I found the foreground lighting a bit too reflective and they fatigued my eyes. I am in the minority but I prefer the clean beam pattern of the stock lights. However, they are simply not bright enough. I'll figure out the next step- JW Speaker or the HIDs.
Do yourself a favor and take my advice. Get the HID projector headlights. You won't be happy with any LED setup because they are not nearly OEM HID quality. Yes they are better than OEM Jeep lights, but are inferior to an OEM quality HID projector setup. Bonus is you can customize them to suit your own taste.
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I think you may be right. However, I need to find a really high-quaity setup with high-end ballasts and bulbs. I don't want to deal with those burning out constantly. Any recommendations?

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Do yourself a favor and take my advice. Get the HID projector headlights. You won't be happy with any LED setup because they are not nearly OEM HID quality. Yes they are better than OEM Jeep lights, but are inferior to an OEM quality HID projector setup. Bonus is you can customize them to suit your own taste.
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I think you may be right. However, I need to find a really high-quaity setup with high-end ballasts and bulbs. I don't want to deal with those burning out constantly. Any recommendations?
I have had no problems with mine. My bulbs are the ones Tom provides with the kit, and ballasts I run DDM 55W slim ballasts. Have had them in for over a year and never an issue. I also have a spare set just in case one does fail I can replace it inside of 4 minutes and be on my way. They don't cost a lot, so if one fails, it's not a big deal to swap them out. My wife's Honda has DDM ballasts/bulbs as well, and they have been running strong for 4 years now. I haven't had an issue with a slim ballast failing on me, only those old school silver brick looking ones.
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Cool, I will look into his kit, along with the slim ballasts. The HIDs sure have a great beam pattern.
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Cool, I will look into his kit, along with the slim ballasts. The HIDs sure have a great beam pattern.
Go figure, the ones that are not "street legal" have the best spread, the best effective distance, and the best controlled scatter. Shows you how much DOT compliant means. I have driven cross country twice, and the ONLY time I got pulled over (in Colorado) for my headlights was a cop with a Jeep asking me where I got them.
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I've debated all of these options. I actually have a brand new set of HID's from theretrofitsource.com, but haven't installed them because I've been wanting to get some jw's. truck lite seems like a great option too because they are so much cheaper than jw.
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I've debated all of these options. I actually have a brand new set of HID's from theretrofitsource.com, but haven't installed them because I've been wanting to get some jw's. truck lite seems like a great option too because they are so much cheaper than jw.
I just got the Morimoto Mini H1 kit from theretrofitsource.com and will be installing them in my TJ. Which ones did you get?
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I'm looking at placing an order with hidprojectors.com. Does anyone with a JK and HID lighting have a preference on Kelvin color between 4300K and 5000K? I'd like crisper white, but have no interest in bling, blue colors, looking like a Lexus or impressing anyone who would actually be impressed with the color of my headlights. For reference, I had a 2008 Dodge Charger with OEM Bi-Xenon HIDs and liked that color very much.
Thanks!

Follow up question: do the hidprojectors produce more heat/warmth than LED lighting? I live in the semi-cold North (Minnesota) and figured Trucklites might not take to the sustained wet 10 degree winter weather as well as something that gives off a little heat.

(Resurecting old thread since some folks here apparently run hidprojectors.com lighting)
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I've had Truck-Lites for a couple of months now and they're light years ahead from the stock halogens. For the money I'm glad I didn't go w/ JW Speaker and get the same performance for twice the money.
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I have the JW speakers headlights and I totally love them. I didn't like how the TL's and that's mainly why I got the JW.
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I'm looking at placing an order with hidprojectors.com. Does anyone with a JK and HID lighting have a preference on Kelvin color between 4300K and 5000K? I'd like crisper white, but have no interest in bling, blue colors, looking like a Lexus or impressing anyone who would actually be impressed with the color of my headlights. For reference, I had a 2008 Dodge Charger with OEM Bi-Xenon HIDs and liked that color very much. Thanks! Follow up question: do the hidprojectors produce more heat/warmth than LED lighting? I live in the semi-cold North (Minnesota) and figured Trucklites might not take to the sustained wet 10 degree winter weather as well as something that gives off a little heat. (Resurecting old thread since some folks here apparently run hidprojectors.com lighting)
I recommend 55w and 6000k. That will burn almost white. If you run 35w I'd stick with 4300-5000 (5000 almost no one makes.)

Also, led headlights produce heat at the rear of the housing but the front (lens) doesn't heat up, so you will have buildup issues. HIDs run warm enough to warm the front lens and keep the buildup from freezing.
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I recommend 55w and 6000k. That will burn almost white. If you run 35w I'd stick with 4300-5000 (5000 almost no one makes.)

Also, led headlights produce heat at the rear of the housing but the front (lens) doesn't heat up, so you will have buildup issues. HIDs run warm enough to warm the front lens and keep the buildup from freezing.
Thanks for the input. Most appreciated!
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are the jw easy to install?
i drive 2013 jku is there any other things that i should buy?
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I installed JW Speakers in my 2013 JKU in about 45 minutes without taking the grill completely off (only disconnected the top tabs and the turn signal tabs). Would have taken less time with the grill completely off but my bumper light bar was in the way of pulling it all the way off. The only other component that isn't in the 8700 Evo box is the H4 to H13 harness which many retailers provide either with the purchase or for an additional charge, so be sure to check the fine print before completing an order. The same applies to Trucklites as they also need a conversion harness to be "plug and play".
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I installed the trucklites last night. I couldn't believe how out of adjustment my headlights were. I noticed, during the install, one headlight didn't seem to be positioned properly, even before I removed the factory lights. After the install, I took the jeep for a spin, and had an extreme bright spot just in front of the jeep. I pulled it up to a wall, the left headlight was pointed down, and to the right of centre. After the adjustment, the bright spot was gone, and the light was dispersed more evenly in front of the jeep. Much better lights than stock.
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I installed JW Speakers in my 2013 JKU in about 45 minutes without taking the grill completely off (only disconnected the top tabs and the turn signal tabs). Would have taken less time with the grill completely off but my bumper light bar was in the way of pulling it all the way off. The only other component that isn't in the 8700 Evo box is the H4 to H13 harness which many retailers provide either with the purchase or for an additional charge, so be sure to check the fine print before completing an order. The same applies to Trucklites as they also need a conversion harness to be "plug and play".
Have you tried adjusting the aim on your JW?
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Yes, I performed the work in the garage and established the center-height point of the stock lights on the wall. Used that as a reference to target the JWs. It's easy to access the adjustment screws even with the grill fully back in place.

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