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Old 01-04-2008, 04:46 PM   #1
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3.0 Crd

I was just looking around the jeep website today and i noticed that a 3.0 CRD is available in grand cherokee's now. This got me to wondering why the hell doesnt jeep put that diesel in the new JK's??? Putting a diesel in a JK could be one of the best idea's jeep has ever had, right up there with the idea for the rubicon model...I just dont understand...why they dont drop that thing in a JK???

Jeep could answer so many prayers out there that most of us have for a diesel powered wrangler...Just think of the torque!!!

Come on jeep, put the damn CRD in the JK cause lets face it who really cares about the WK anyway???

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Old 01-04-2008, 04:49 PM   #2
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here in europe +90% of the JKs have the 2.8L CRD diesel engine.

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Old 01-04-2008, 06:01 PM   #3
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Its not a matter of why or why not, but when exactly. They are going to do it, we just don't know when. And actually, they have had the 3.0CRD in the WK for the past 2 years I believe... and the 1st generation JK has the optional 2.8CRD. That was killed because of the new emissions standards for 2007-08

But the only thing is, you may get the extra power, but fuel economy is still gonna be about the same. Plus the price of diesel is soo much more than gas, I really don't see myself or may people buying one any more.
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Old 01-04-2008, 06:14 PM   #4
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Except for the fact that turbo diesels sound soooooooooo cool.
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Old 01-04-2008, 07:04 PM   #5
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Its not a matter of why or why not, but when exactly. They are going to do it, we just don't know when. And actually, they have had the 3.0CRD in the WK for the past 2 years I believe... and the 1st generation JK has the optional 2.8CRD. That was killed because of the new emissions standards for 2007-08

But the only thing is, you may get the extra power, but fuel economy is still gonna be about the same. Plus the price of diesel is soo much more than gas, I really don't see myself or may people buying one any more.


Actually i dont think they've had it in the WK the past 2 years...it was in the liberty for a few years but i believe it only started appearing in the WK the recently...

And as far as economy goes i deffinitely think a 3.0 diesel would get better economy then the 3.6 v6 thats in the new jk's and it all deppends on where you live and the time of year as far as fuel prices...around here diesel may be a bit more expensive right now but most of the year diesel is cheaper then gasoline here.

Plus say even if fuel economy is worse and diesel was more expensive i still think there are many out there that would love the extra torque of a diesel, especially those who are going to wheel with it. I'm not saying it should replace the 3.6 thats in the jk's now, i just think that that it should be an optional engine, especially on the rubicon...i just dont understand how after all these years they've never put a v8 or a diesel in a wrangler...i think it would be a hit
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Old 01-04-2008, 07:10 PM   #6
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It's really not about what would be a hit. Of coarse people would buy it, it would be bad ass.
In Cali right now Arnie is suing the Federal Govt because he thinks the EPA standards aren't strict enough. The EPA is the agency keeping that motor from going into that vehicle.
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Old 01-04-2008, 08:12 PM   #7
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Actually i dont think they've had it in the WK the past 2 years...it was in the liberty for a few years but i believe it only started appearing in the WK the recently...

And as far as economy goes i deffinitely think a 3.0 diesel would get better economy then the 3.6 v6 thats in the new jk's and it all deppends on where you live and the time of year as far as fuel prices...around here diesel may be a bit more expensive right now but most of the year diesel is cheaper then gasoline here.
They have had the 3.0 CRD available since late 2006 for the WK, and since early 2005 elsewhere in the world. But just for 2008 has Jeep allowed the 3.0 as an option for the Laredo models instead of charging the extra 10k for the Outlander.

And when I said JK's with 2.8L, I ment KJ(Liberty).

And yes the diesel WK's have a very slight MPG gain over a base V6 version(V6 being 15/20 and diesel being 18/22). But to pay the premium of having an optional motor now days is ridiculous.

It may be that I'm just not a big diesel fan, but I really don't see the need for it. In big trucks, yes... in little Wranglers, no.

And you must have forgotten about the CJ Wranglers, because they had V8's.
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Old 01-05-2008, 01:56 AM   #8
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And you must have forgotten about the CJ Wranglers, because they had V8's.


Oh i knew about the V8's in the CJ's but they weren't actually wranglers yet, the actual "wrangler" came out in 87 so thats why i said that.

I know there are disadvantages to having a diesel or a v8, but lets face it, if you're thinking about buying a wrangler you obviously arnt all that concerned with fuel economy anyway lol. I just think it would be a cool option that might be very successful.
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Old 01-07-2008, 03:54 PM   #9
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i am all about fuel economy.. 18-22 is average for regular trucks.. I would be hapy if I got that mpg.. I would love my jeep way more..
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Thats why the 3.0 diesel would be nice, more torque and better fuel economy
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Also, if bio-diesel becomes a viable option we can continue to wheel and "build" great off-road vehicles. I hope to replace my 4.0L someday with a diesel engine, hopefully more people will have done the swap and it will be a plug and play job.

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Also, if bio-diesel becomes a viable option we can continue to wheel and "build" great off-road vehicles. I hope to replace my 4.0L someday with a diesel engine, hopefully more people will have done the swap and it will be a plug and play job.

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by then everyone will have flying cars and you will have an old jeep
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by then everyone will have flying cars and you will have an old jeep
Yea but try wheeling in a flying car......
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Could it be true?

http://blogs.4wdandsportutility.com/...kit/index.html

I heard it's a $13K kit, kinda defeats the purpose... but it sure would be cool, huh?
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With diesel at $3.80 - $4.00 a gallon it can't be worth it.
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With diesel at $3.80 - $4.00 a gallon it can't be worth it.
Like the gas prices diesel is being artificially driven up, by artificially I mean the whole oil thing thats going and being fueled by speculators. Every time gas prices go down some 'world shaking event' happens and the gas prices shootup as soon as it hits the news, what I find interesting was that in the last 4 'world shaking events' it was usually when gas dropped below $3.00 here in the Pa/NJ area. Over all nationwide our gross consumption of gas has dropped 10-12% according to the federal figures and is expected to hit 25% by the end of the summer.
As far as diesels in american cars, for some reason they have always been rejected, either by buyers or manufacturers, no idea why. The ones that GM came out with based on the 350 car engine were POS's which turned even more people off to them.

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