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Old 09-07-2007, 09:11 PM   #1
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Talking 36x13.5 R16 Iroks = Done (warning - garage pics)

Holy wheel weights!!! These bad boys suck to balance. It took the better part of 3 hours to get my old tires broken down and get these mounted and balanced.

I opted to just use the standard ol' hammer on wheel weights today but I need to find a better option. A couple of these bad boys have weights half way around the wheel.

Just for comparison my old 315/75/R16 Mickey Thompson Baja Claws measured exactly 33" with 25 pounds of air. I had measured them once before with 32 pounds of air and they were 34"'s. These unmounted measure 36"'s and mounted with 28 pounds of air measure 35"'s.








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Old 09-07-2007, 09:28 PM   #2
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That is a crapload of weights. How about those beads that you put inside the tire? Or.......weights on the inside of the rim........oh wait you probably have them there too.

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kitchen shots???
or it doesnt fit anymore?
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Old 09-07-2007, 09:32 PM   #4
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By the way Scout that set up looks great.
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Old 09-07-2007, 09:39 PM   #5
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Nice Scout. Very pretty.
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Old 09-07-2007, 09:52 PM   #6
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That is a crapload of weights. How about those beads that you put inside the tire? Or.......weights on the inside of the rim........oh wait you probably have them there too.
There are weights on both sides of the wheels.

I may have to look into the Dyna Beads. I need some more info on them though. I'm sure Andy will gladly chime in here before too long.
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I think you should have went with 39.5's

Looks good though. A lot of the guys from around here were running MT/R's but now most of them run the IROKs and like them a lot better. Definitely need to go with some bead weights.
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My opinion. I would avoid the beads or liquid balance. That stuff is really designed for long haul trucks, no matter what the salesman tells you. A little wider rim will usually drop the required amount of wieght to balance. Also try and find someone that will match mount them. That means marking the high spot on the tire, and the low spot on the rim. Then break the beads lose and turn the tire on the wheel to put the high and low together. Hunter makes a Balancer that will measure the highs and lows, but common sence and a broom handle work too. The other option is balanceing boots. Kinda like a patch that goes inside the tire, but with wieght built in. I wouldn't do that if your gonna run low air pressure though. They don't flex well. I would put them on 10 inch wheels first.
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They seem like a decent product.
http://innovativebalancing.com/index.html
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Old 09-07-2007, 09:58 PM   #10
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My opinion. I would avoid the beads or liquid balance. That stuff is really designed for long haul trucks, no matter what the salesman tells you. A little wider rim will usually drop the required amount of wieght to balance. Also try and find someone that will match mount them. That means marking the high spot on the tire, and the low spot on the rim. Then break the beads lose and turn the tire on the wheel to put the high and low together. Hunter makes a Balancer that will measure the highs and lows, but common sence and a broom handle work too. The other option is balanceing boots. Kinda like a patch that goes inside the tire, but with wieght built in. I wouldn't do that if your gonna run low air pressure though. They don't flex well. I would put them on 10 inch wheels first.
Damn! Great info! Thank you very much!
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Looks great Scout! How do they look aired down to 7 psi? being radials, the sidewalls should flex really good.
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Looks great Scout! How do they look aired down to 7 psi? being radials, the sidewalls should flex really good.
I haven't aired them down yet. However I can tell you what they looked like with 60 pounds of air in them! And the idiot was trying to find a way to put another 5 pounds in them!

I'll play around with the air pressure a bit until I find a good mix. Airing them down and taking them in the dirt...well that may be awhile. Unless they plan on repaving the mall parking lot. Then I'm all over it!
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holy freakin wheel weights. I'm leaning more towards bent rim over out of balance. If you have that much weight on there then something is usually wrong. Did you watch the tire rotate on the balance machine? If you can see the tire moving vertically at all then the heavy side of the tire is on the heavy side of the wheel. The tire monkey should break the bead, rotate the tire and start over.

I'd take that one back and get it done over again. There is definitely something wrong that I don't believe any amount of weight could fix. That's why it is stuck on the rear. That way you don't notice it as much when driving.
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Old 09-07-2007, 11:04 PM   #14
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Makes sense. I may still look at some other options too. I doubt the wheels are bent (unless it was done today) as my old tires took very little weight compared to these.

I watched him mount a couple of them closely but I was unable to see him do all of them up close. However rotating them on the wheel could solve a bit of the problem. In the short term I may take it to a different place and have them re-balance them and see what the result is. Otherwise I may have to paint those wheel weights black.
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If the tire wobbles then you have a problem. Rotate the tire 180 degrees and try again. If it doesn't go away then break the bead, rotate 90 degrees and try again. Then 180 depending on how bad it is. The best way to check your wheel for roundness is the balance machine. They have a little calibration arm that tells the machine how wide your rim is. You can place that arm on the wheel and see if it moves in and out. Steel wheels are from the devil and can be out of round from the factory. Just some stuff I've observed having changed tires more times than Elton John changes... well... you get the idea.
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Nice scout!!!!
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Yeah, that looks great!!!! One more option, on the tire. It may just be a bad tire, out of round. That does happen once in a while. See if they will replace that tire, and use one that is more round..........
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wow, look'n great scout!
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looks good! now go get er muddy
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Thanks everyone. I plan on taking it elsewhere next week and getting them rebalanced. Also as a back up plan I went ahead and ordered some Dyna Beads. I figure they're not that expensive so why not give them a shot.

In the meantime I'm thinking about what my next mod will be....
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Looks good.As others hve said break the bead on the tire and spin it on the rim.Bill
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or just air down to 6 psi and go wheeling in the rocks... all the weights will fall of and the tire will spin on the rim and self balance. lol.
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Ben, I like the way you think.
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Thats looks really sweet, Scout.
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all these new mods and still no stretch? I thought I remember you saying you wanted to do that eventually jeep looks good though....and If you ever get rid of that lift let me know
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Holy wheel weights!!! These bad boys suck to balance. It took the better part of 3 hours to get my old tires broken down and get these mounted and balanced.

I opted to just use the standard ol' hammer on wheel weights today but I need to find a better option. A couple of these bad boys have weights half way around the wheel.

Just for comparison my old 315/75/R16 Mickey Thompson Baja Claws measured exactly 33" with 25 pounds of air. I had measured them once before with 32 pounds of air and they were 34"'s. These unmounted measure 36"'s and mounted with 28 pounds of air measure 35"'s.









Oh dango Mango yo. Anyone of ya'll notice the GUN on the wall in the garage? Holy redneck..... Damn, Thats one good lookin Jeep Scott...


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Oh dango Mango yo. Anyone of ya'll notice the GUN on the wall in the garage? Holy redneck..... Damn, Thats one good lookin Jeep Scott...


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Ha! Thanks Joe! That there be me pellet gun. There ain't none of them there pidgeons around this here house.

Oh and I can't take all the credit for that Jeep.
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Scout is armed to the teeth with pellet rifles.

Those tube doors aren't doing anything for ya on the wall... sell them to me.

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