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Old 03-05-2007, 09:04 PM   #31
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i have the 4.0 94 sahara, i think i do have the 4:10, By the way, im reading here that some 8.8's come with disc brakes, does it matter if i get drum or disk?

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i have the 4.0 94 sahara, i think i do have the 4:10, By the way, im reading here that some 8.8's come with disc brakes, does it matter if i get drum or disk?
yes. The drum brake 8.8 has a smaller spline count. You want the disc brake 8.8 with the 31 spline axles.


I would do waggy 44s and weld on new perches. Gonna be your best bang for the buck and pretty easy to install compared to a TJ setup

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So i have my priorities straight, Its not absolutely necesarry to get a super 8.8 kit....1)Get super 30 kit for front axle. 2)Get ford 8.8 rear axle 3)buy and install 37's and gears at the same time.4) possibly get lockers for axles
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yes. The drum brake 8.8 has a smaller spline count. You want the disc brake 8.8 with the 31 spline axles.


I would do waggy 44s and weld on new perches. Gonna be your best bang for the buck and pretty easy to install compared to a TJ setup
But the install for disk and drum is the same thing correct?
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No, because you shouldn't put the drum brake axle under your jeep
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yes. The drum brake 8.8 has a smaller spline count. You want the disc brake 8.8 with the 31 spline axles.


I would do waggy 44s and weld on new perches. Gonna be your best bang for the buck and pretty easy to install compared to a TJ setup
Andy, I've personally worked on Drum Brake 8.8's that have 31 spline axles. I was always under the impression that it was the 6 cylinder Explorer's and all Rangers/Mustangs that had the 28 spline shafts in them? And while the disk brakes are the superior model, the 8.8 drum's do provide superior braking to the D35 brakes.
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Old 03-05-2007, 09:12 PM   #37
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No, because you shouldn't put the drum brake axle under your jeep
What do you mean by i shouldnt, dosnt the d35 have Drums?
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Andy, I've personally worked on Drum Brake 8.8's that have 31 spline axles. I was always under the impression that it was the 6 cylinder Explorer's and all Rangers/Mustangs that had the 28 spline shafts in them? And while the disk brakes are the superior model, the 8.8 drum's do provide superior braking to the D35 brakes.
From the research I did before I found my 8.8 the general consensus was that most 8.8s with drums were the smaller splined axle. I say you are there anyway you might as well upgrade. I do believe that the drum brakes on my go kart stop better than the turd.

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What do you mean by i shouldnt, dosnt the d35 have Drums?
I'm a big fan of disc brakes on all corners. The 8.8 is still a C-Clip axle and pending you "do" break an 8.8 shaft the disc brakes will keep the axle inside the tube. Not that I have ever seen an 8.8 C-Clip failure. I certainly didn't break mine on 37s
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I'll roll with you on that. From the research we did on it before we did the last one it's kind of like the TJ's that have a 44 in them. Other than the Rubicon it's kind of a crap shoot as to what has what.

I agree with you on the C-Clip. I've never seen one break either.
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what tires are those? mickey t's?
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So im looking for an 8.8 with 4:10 gearing and disk brakes
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Yep, it was also hard for me to find one with 4.10s. Which won't be enough gearing to run your 37s.

1.) There is no carrier break on the 8.8 so the case will still work no matter which gear set you choose.

2.) The only locker I would consider with a ford axle is a detroit. Spider replacements aren't all that happy. Mini spools are a nono.

3.) Be sure to weld the tubes to the housing. Plugged axle tubes suck! Period.
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Yep, it was also hard for me to find one with 4.10s. Which won't be enough gearing to run your 37s.

1.) There is no carrier break on the 8.8 so the case will still work no matter which gear set you choose.

2.) The only locker I would consider with a ford axle is a detroit. Spider replacements aren't all that happy. Mini spools are a nono.

3.) Be sure to weld the tubes to the housing. Plugged axle tubes suck! Period.
What is a carrier break, if i want an ox locker i have to replace spider gears?, what is a mini spool?, what do you mean weld tubes to the housing?CAN i refer to your pic to see this tube?.. Where? like axle breathers?
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Some differentials require a different case(carrier) for different gear ratios. The ford axle does not. A mini spool doesn't matter if you go with the ox locker. The axle tubes are pressed into the housing and then plug welded. It is alright for daily driving exploders but not for rock crawling. The axle tubes like to spin inside the housing which can lead to failure. A simple bead around the axle tube welding it to the housing is a great suggestion for keeping your newly found purchase under your rig.
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What if i dont get a super kit no lockers no beefing up axle, just the 37"s on my d30 and d35?

if you stay on the pavement all the time, it MIGHT last ... if you venture into man-land, you will be get very good at changing out D30 and D35 shafts, very quickly.
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A mini spool would be fine if it's a trail rig only. But a definite no no if you are driving it on the road.

Give your local junk yards a call. I've been able to find both 3.73 and 4.10's for between 250 to 400 out here. There's also a version with a Limited slip in it. If you are looking to lock it up anyway I'd just stay away from that one as it's in the 400 range.
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i know someone that lives near me that put in an 8.8 and i believe his was a mini spool and he said the tire comes off the ground on turns
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I still dont know what a mini spool is, Is it a type of locker?
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a mini spool replaces your spider gears and makes your axle locked all the time. It does not unlock. It has been my experience that there is so much slop in the ford axle that the mini spool won't stay seated on the cross shaft and will toast itself repeatedly.

A mini spool is similar to welding your spider gears together. That's what I did and daily drove it for a year or so. My rear axle was stretched out so I think I got away with more but I didn't mind it besides the extra tire wear.
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Ok, but if i get an OX Locker set up i will not have a minispool right? It is Manualy cable shifted in and out of lock right???? By the way I found and 8.8 in a salvage yard near-by, I brought the guy down to $250, is that resonable?
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Ok, but if i get an OX Locker set up i will not have a minispool right? It is Manualy cable shifted in and out of lock right???? By the way I found and 8.8 in a salvage yard near-by, I brought the guy down to $250, is that resonable?
Yes you are right if you go with an OX, that will replace your entire carrier so you won't have to worry about mini-spools, lock rites, limited slips etc....

And if you found an 8.8 for $250 then snag it. It's about as cheap as you are going to find one. You can gaurantee if it has disk brakes that it's a 31 spline version.
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So should i just get that then, i wont have to get any super kits? He seems to have a deal there...
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Nah, forget the d44's , this guy lives 4 hours away, i dont even need that full spool, Who knows what condition those d44's are in, And i dont even want a detroit locker in the first place. I am just going to get the Ford 8.8 for $250, But this wont be a problem with the u joints i have on the custom drive shaft i have from tom woods, will it?

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