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Old 09-19-2006, 09:18 PM   #1
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ok as yall know i have been offroading a couple times...but to be honest i didn't put it in 4wd either of the times...they were just mud pits that weren't deep enough for it...but tomorow im goin wheelin and there are some deep mud pits and some steep hills that i think would require 4wd...any tips on using the 4wd? im gonna watch the video that came with my jeep about putting it in 4wd...and one more question...im not stupid enough to just run through a mud pit that i have no idea how deep it is...i'll dip a stick in to see how deep it is but how deep is too deep? what is the deepest pit i should go through? i got 32's
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Old 09-19-2006, 09:29 PM   #2
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A good rule of thumb is, don't go into anything deeper than the center of your axle. Anything past that is very risky.

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Old 09-19-2006, 09:30 PM   #3
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so that would be nothing past the center of my center caps? (in other words)...just wondering, why is it risky...stuck?
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Old 09-19-2006, 09:32 PM   #4
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Here's a tip. Stay out of the mud.
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Old 09-19-2006, 09:36 PM   #5
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why?
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Old 09-19-2006, 09:38 PM   #6
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Mud is very much, a pain in the arse, to clean. But you are young, and full of piss and vinegar. If you go deeper than your axle, you will get stuck. Pretty much bottomed out by then. You could go real fast, and take the risk of damaging a lot of stuff. The choice is yours. Bottom line.......it is your Jeep, and you can do with it, whatever you like.
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Old 09-19-2006, 09:40 PM   #7
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i don't mind the cleaning...i'll take it to the spray wash...but i am NOT gonna go fast and damage something! so i think i will just stay out of anything deeper than my axle...in fact i wont go past the bottom of my axle...even if its sticky i should be fine right?
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Old 09-19-2006, 09:41 PM   #8
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I think you are posting just to see your count go up or to see your name in lights or something.

Get in the mud if you want. Make sure you do NOT take another 4wd with you. That will ruin the whole experience for you.
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Old 09-19-2006, 09:42 PM   #9
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to see my name in lights?? what are you talkin about? no man i believe i was serious with this thread ...you mean i shouldn't take another 4wd with me so that i'll get stuck and it will ruin the experience by not getting stuck? in other words your bein sarcastic?
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Old 09-19-2006, 09:53 PM   #10
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I'm not sarcastic, I'm condescending.

But I am joking around with you.

I have to quit posting now. I have gone over my daily post limit.
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Old 09-19-2006, 09:56 PM   #11
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ok...one more question...i know your not gonna like it amerijeep ...and this is a REALLY stupid question...if i open the hood and the whole engine and everything is covered with mud can i just hose it off with water or is it not good to spray water under the hood?
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ok...one more question...i know your not gonna like it amerijeep ...and this is a REALLY stupid question...if i open the hood and the whole engine and everything is covered with mud can i just hose it off with water or is it not good to spray water under the hood?
You can but dont spray towards the throttle position sensor, the ecu, intake, etc....
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ok...one more question...i know your not gonna like it amerijeep ...and this is a REALLY stupid question...if i open the hood and the whole engine and everything is covered with mud can i just hose it off with water or is it not good to spray water under the hood?
I don't think there will be any hoses out there where you are gonna be stuck!
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You can but dont spray towards the throttle position sensor, the ecu, intake, etc....
Thanks for the help although im not sure where the tps and ecu are located.
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I agree with Bluviking, don't go over the center of the axle unless you have a means of getting unstuck. (ie..winch or another 4x4). I always use 4 lo if I indeed need 4wd so the motor doesn't have to work as hard. Make sure you attach a rope or strap to your jeep before you head in or you might be trying to hook it up under water.
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Old 09-20-2006, 11:09 AM   #16
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The main problem with mud is that it's fun at the time, however, cleanup is more of a bitch than you're comprehending. Yes you can pressure wash your exterior and undercarriage, but the grit just gets EVERYWHERE. Once you even touch the mud, you'll be finding traces of it while you're working on your vehicle for the rest of its lifetime. Another BIG problem with mud is that it gets in everywhere, and stays there. It messes with seals, ball joints, u-joints, etc. If there's mud on a trail I'm wheeling, if I have any option and I don't HAVE to go through it, I avoid it like it's the plague.

Stay out of the mud and find some rocks

edit: yes you can wash down your engine if you're carefull, but if it's TRULY covered with mud (which can and does happen pretty easily) you can't do anything about the crud you'll be washing into your electrical connectors in the process. Ask me how I know - my harness went from good to an intermittant POS over the weeks involving a few mud runs Don't get carried away in this mud pits to the point where your engine gets covered, it's way more of a pain than it's worth.
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Old 09-20-2006, 06:12 PM   #17
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Man, their just giving ya a bunch of sh*t. If you think it's thick now you just wait til you hit the trails with a bunch of wheelin vets. It's a great group we decided to belong to. Hell I know a bit about wheelin, but when I'm around Hackle and Joe they make me feel like a 16 year old kid sometimes. Don't worry though you will get your opportunity to dog others out in due time. It's kind of like the military. You get to F with the guy below you.

Mud does suck. I hate it. Only go thru mud when I have to get to a trail head. You will get the feel of your jeep. You will start to know when something bad might happen. When it does just let off and find a different plan of attack. Have fun with it and don't go worrying you are going to break something. Because odds are if your worrying about it you will break it.

One other piece of advice. If you have any way to air your tires down a little then do it. On those steep inclines and mud you are going to want more contact with the ground. Air your tires down to about 18 or so lbs if possible. It will help you with more traction.

Most all have fun and come back to tell us all about it. Use your head. Be Safe. Also Tread Lightly. If you take it in take it out. If you see some trash in the way then pick it up. Leave the area you are in cleaner than when you found it.
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Old 09-20-2006, 06:33 PM   #18
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thanks..."jeepcrawler", how many mud runs did you do before your wiring harness was screwed...i had to spray the engine today...it started fine but i hope i didn't mess up anything...it was great fun in the mud and with the pressure washer the cleanup wasn't that bad...it was worth it...i only got stuck once and that was because the gas tank grabbed the ground...i'll have to get a suspension lift to get it up...maybe a 2"...ill post pics of the aftermath later
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Old 09-23-2006, 11:05 PM   #19
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Hey bigjeep, you will appreciate this.

A friend from high school and I went riding on an island today. This island is between the Mississippi River and te Yazoo River. You have to take a ferry across to get there.

Well, there was the big mud hole, which of course, I wouldn't get in. My buddy kept saying "Aw Man, this thing is a Jeep. It'll make it". Well, I caved to pear pressure an buried it over the front bumper. Since I had a good bit of speed going, the tires on the drivers side slipped off into a rut and weren't even touching the ground.

Well, bigjeep, I was stuck and grounded pretty bad. No vehicle could get close enough to pull me out. We only had about forty feet of chain, and that wouldn't reach.

You know what pulled me out? A mule. At least that is what we were calling it. It's kinda like a four wheeler, but a little like a jeep at the same time. This thing probably weighed a forth of what my jeep weighs and pulled it out like it was nothing.

I gotta get me one of those things.

Oh, as far as the jeep, I really was barely stuck, but stuck is stuck. Right?

I had a camera, but I was so muddy, that I didn't want to put my hands on it.

Anyway, it's exactly why mud sucks to wheel in.
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yeah i went with a buddy but he really didn't pressure me...hes a cool guy
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Old 09-24-2006, 10:37 AM   #21
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Heh, this guy has been my best friend for almost 25 years. Since we were in jr high. Believe me, we've gotten ourselves in a pickle together more times than I can count. They just get to be fewer and farther between now as we get older.
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Old 09-24-2006, 01:46 PM   #22
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so that was a real story...i thought you copied and pasted or something...or it was a while back...this happened not too long ago?
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Old 09-24-2006, 02:10 PM   #23
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that was yesterday,bro.
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Old 09-24-2006, 02:44 PM   #24
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wow...well i guess i could just stick too some steep dirt hilll climbing...which is actually still quite challengine because of all the ruts and lumps on the hills
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Hey Jepper was it a Rhino that pulled you out?
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Old 09-25-2006, 08:56 PM   #26
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THAT pulled you out?
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yep. Just like this one. I couldn't believe how bad that joker was. Pulled the Jeep out!!
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Living near the great swamp in New Jersey Im feeling the mud stories too. Sorry to say ive been there and done that way to much when i first got my licence. Its real fun to ride thru and get weird looks from people on the way home. Im not gonna lie you do get some cool lookin pics and memories, but you will soon see the truth. When you realize how great wheelin on rocks is its hard to go back to that sticky mud. Either that or you will get tired of overnite stucks where you dont know if the trucks ever goin to make it out. Live and learn and someday you will write stuff like im writin now haha Have fun tho i cant much object to any kinda wheelin even if it does involve mud
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Old 09-25-2006, 11:19 PM   #29
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and you're only 17 bro. Wait until you get to be my age....

Oh yeah, there aint a rock to ride on here except the gravel roads.
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dude are you serious? that thing in the pic above pulled your jeep out?! wow! i would think that the jeep was too heavy...there aren't many rocks around here

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