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Old 09-23-2008, 12:28 AM   #1
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Question A few questions on the Wrangler I was just GIVEN FOR FREE!

My cousin just gave me his old jeep wrangler. He bought it and used it for plowing but thats it. It has about 100k miles on it, it's a V6 with an automatic transmission. Anyway, the 4 wheel drive is broken on it. The rear wheels work but thats it. My uncle told me it sounds like an issue with the transfer case. What do you guys think? Or so here are my questions, and I do need some help because I am a complete noob when it comes to this. I am a Subaru and Honda guy, not Jeep. Until now.

1 - Can I get some BIG tires from like WalMart or something, using the stock rims that are on it?

2 - What is the cheapest way to lift this truck a few inches? I want to do all of the work myself BTW.

3 - Is the 4 wheel drive an easy fix or real hard and expensive?

4 - Do you guys have any suggestions!??!?!?!?!


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Well hell bad ass that you got a free rig. Even if you have to put a little money in it.

First lets try and figure out what kind of Jeep you have. Can you tell us what year it is? This will help with future issues and questions you may have.

Second, I'm sure you can get some tires for it from Wal-Mart. That's up to you. On most stock jeep wheels the biggest you are going to go with no lift is probably a 31x10.50.

As far as lift conversations go we will need to know what year we are dealing with.

Same with the TCase scenario. Yes there is going to be something wrong in either your TCase, Front Driveshaft, Front Axle, or TCase Linkage if you can't get 4wd to engage.

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My cousin just gave me his old jeep wrangler. He bought it and used it for plowing but thats it. It has about 100k miles on it, it's a V6 with an automatic transmission. Anyway, the 4 wheel drive is broken on it. The rear wheels work but thats it. My uncle told me it sounds like an issue with the transfer case. What do you guys think? Or so here are my questions, and I do need some help because I am a complete noob when it comes to this. I am a Subaru and Honda guy, not Jeep. Until now.

1 - Can I get some BIG tires from like WalMart or something, using the stock rims that are on it?

2 - What is the cheapest way to lift this truck a few inches? I want to do all of the work myself BTW.

3 - Is the 4 wheel drive an easy fix or real hard and expensive?

4 - Do you guys have any suggestions!??!?!?!?!


THANKS!!!!!
1. Yes, but big tires will be pricey. Buy some decent ones and you'll get good use out of em, especially if you offroad. Walmart tires are generally the non-standard tires/lines from the makers. You'd have better luck at Sam's or going through TireRack. You CAN use your stock wheels, but bigger tires will likely rub, due to the backspacing of the wheel. Stock wheels are generally 5.5". You want a backspaced wheel with a lower number - they'll stick out more and not rub when turning.

2. Budget boost - Spring/coil spacers + longer shocks. Ride will be similar to stock, but will depend on the quality of the shocks you get.

3. May be easy; may be cheap. Then again maybe not. Check to make sure the driveshaft to the front is attached. If so, then probably something either inside the t-case is broken, or HOPEFULLY, just the t-case lever linkages are messed up. Hard to say w/o seeing pics.

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Take and post some pics of the rig. Until we know that there are no answers.
Outside shots, open hood and pic of engine, underneath and pic of transfer case, etc.
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Wow, thanks for all the help guys! The truck is still in the Bronx at the warehouse he owns, and I haven't taken delivery of it yet because he still needs to find the title. Once I get it, I will take a bunch of pics.

I plan on getting a cold air intake, because I am hoping that will get me a little more power and some better MPG. Although I am sure I can be advised on much better substitutes here because you guys seem to know your shit!

Thanks again, pics coming soon!!!!!
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Old 09-23-2008, 10:13 AM   #6
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Wow, thanks for all the help guys! The truck is still in the Bronx at the warehouse he owns, and I haven't taken delivery of it yet because he still needs to find the title. Once I get it, I will take a bunch of pics.

I plan on getting a cold air intake, because I am hoping that will get me a little more power and some better MPG. Although I am sure I can be advised on much better substitutes here because you guys seem to know your shit!

Thanks again, pics coming soon!!!!!
It's a square box, don't expect any super mileage, if you get 15 be happy.
Invest in a 200 piece Sears Craftsman tool kit, floor jack, 2 sets of jackstands, creeper, 4 cases of PowerBlaster, 16oz bottle of anti-seize, then as soon as you find out what it is the appropriate service manuals.
Off the bat, oil and filter change, transfer case fluid change, transmission fluid change, differential fluids, cooling system change, new hoses, then go from there

That should keep you busy for a week or so
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don't waste money on cold air intake...

what year is it???
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OK EVERYONE, I've got some information. It is a 1990 Jeep Islander, but its really basically a wrangler. The engine has had a complete over haul at 97,000 miles and there are 105,000 miles on it now. I am pretty sure it is an automatic. It is not fuel injected, therefore it has a carburator. It is a pretty cool truck from what I've seen and heard. Although, the 4 wheel drive still doesnt work and it may or may not be a transfer case issue, who knows? I might take it to a shop to get an estimate or something but that's it, unless it is a cheap fix. My cousin just said to not put any money into it and just drive it until it's done. I hope the car will give me over 200k miles, what do you guys think?

Well I hope the car lasts me, I think it will. The first day I've got it I am taking the doors and roof off and driving it around like a total bum, can't wait.
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Four wheel drive does not work, either transfer case, linkage or more than likely the vacum system or vacum motor on the front axle is not working, that model D30 is a disconnect axle, it has a vacum motor on the passenger side of the axle, could just be disconnected vacum line.
The part that amazes me is 4cyl, automatic used for plowing what did he push it with

Wait a minute, I'm not sure but I believe he's wrong about the fuel injection, I bet it is.
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It's a square box, don't expect any super mileage, if you get 15 be happy.
Invest in a 200 piece Sears Craftsman tool kit, floor jack, 2 sets of jackstands, creeper, 4 cases of PowerBlaster, 16oz bottle of anti-seize, then as soon as you find out what it is the appropriate service manuals.
Off the bat, oil and filter change, transfer case fluid change, transmission fluid change, differential fluids, cooling system change, new hoses, then go from there

That should keep you busy for a week or so
What he said, w/ the addition of the following; Don't get a cheap jack & stands at Wal Mart, you need something for a truck, so bigger is better, most of what Wal Mart carries is ok for an avg car, but just barely tall enough for a stock Jeep. Any amount of lift, out of luck! Oh, and BTW, to the madness!
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Four wheel drive does not work, either transfer case, linkage or more than likely the vacum system or vacum motor on the front axle is not working, that model D30 is a disconnect axle, it has a vacum motor on the passenger side of the axle, could just be disconnected vacum line.
The part that amazes me is 4cyl, automatic used for plowing what did he push it with

Wait a minute, I'm not sure but I believe he's wrong about the fuel injection, I bet it is.
Hey! It's a 6 Cylinder, not a 4. I am pretty sure about it not being fuel injected, because he himself rebuilt the engine, he even told me he put a new carburetor in. I hope the 4 wheel drive fix is cheap or is something that I can do myself.

When I do get the car, what should I do? Should I just bring it to a shop to see if they can tell me what it needs to fix the 4WD? I WOULD MUCH RATHER look at it myself, buy the part myself, and install the part myself. I would feel so much more accomplished!

Also, I am going to repaint the car a high gloss white and maybe paint the back trunk door black and the front grille flat black to. What do you guys think? Also, do they make HID Kits for the bulbs of a 1990 Jeep Islander (Wrangler)? I think they are H6's but I'm not positive. Anyway, what stencils should I buy for the body? I was thinking maybe some flames and some skulls or something cool like that. What should I get?

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Hey! It's a 6 Cylinder, not a 4. I am pretty sure about it not being fuel injected, because he himself rebuilt the engine, he even told me he put a new carburetor in. I hope the 4 wheel drive fix is cheap or is something that I can do myself.

When I do get the car, what should I do? Should I just bring it to a shop to see if they can tell me what it needs to fix the 4WD? I WOULD MUCH RATHER look at it myself, buy the part myself, and install the part myself. I would feel so much more accomplished!

Also, I am going to repaint the car a high gloss white and maybe paint the back trunk door black and the front grille flat black to. What do you guys think? Also, do they make HID Kits for the bulbs of a 1990 Jeep Islander (Wrangler)? I think they are H6's but I'm not positive. Anyway, what stencils should I buy for the body? I was thinking maybe some flames and some skulls or something cool like that. What should I get?

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Ooh boy, I sniff a dubb in the making....

If it's a 6 then it has a carter BBL, PIA, consider converting it to throttle body fuel injection www.bustedjeep.com from a GM 6 cylinder out of a boneyard.
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I-got-a-wrangler, im not trying to be an ass but just for future reference it is a jeep wrangler islander. islander is the trim- they have SE, Sport, Sahara, Islander, etc. They are all wranglers, just have different options and styles.
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Yeah I had figured it was basically just a Wrangler. I can't wait to take the doors off and drive. Thats gotta be fun, huh? Wow I can't wait.
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Well hell bad ass that you got a free rig. Even if you have to put a little money in it.

First lets try and figure out what kind of Jeep you have. Can you tell us what year it is? This will help with future issues and questions you may have.

Second, I'm sure you can get some tires for it from Wal-Mart. That's up to you. On most stock jeep wheels the biggest you are going to go with no lift is probably a 31x10.50.

As far as lift conversations go we will need to know what year we are dealing with.

Same with the TCase scenario. Yes there is going to be something wrong in either your TCase, Front Driveshaft, Front Axle, or TCase Linkage if you can't get 4wd to engage.
So exactly what kind of tires should I be looking for? It is a stock 1990 Wrangler 6 Cylinder, islander version.

I've decided that I am only going to paint it, maybe black or white, I havent decided yet, get an 8000k HID kit for it, an intake if I can find one, and some fat off roading tires. Thats really all, I don't want to spend to much money on it.
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So exactly what kind of tires should I be looking for? It is a stock 1990 Wrangler 6 Cylinder, islander version.

I've decided that I am only going to paint it, maybe black or white, I havent decided yet, get an 8000k HID kit for it, an intake if I can find one, and some fat off roading tires. Thats really all, I don't want to spend to much money on it.
We'll see how long that lasts not spending any money on it I mean.
As for tires, I'd start with LT235/75R15 BFG AT/KO's or even 30's if you can find them instock, most of the tire stores seem to jump from 235's to 31x10.50's for some reason.
The hid kit is a waste of money in my opinion, nice set of Hella or CIBIE H4 eurocodes, good set of fog lights. Thats all you need around this area, seriously, how often do you actually get to use your high beams, even here in the boonies I rarely use them.
If you really want to learn start planting your browser on this forum in the YJ section and start reading, see what others have done, results, wastes of money, etc. Learn from others mistakes.
I think I said before, start with changing all the fluids, going after all the rust on the frame and underbody, find out what you really have before you start sinking money into it. Get if up off the ground and get under there with a creeper and flood light, look at the frame especially back by the gas tank and rear shocks, thats usually where they rust out before you buy anything for it.
There is a ton of stuff you can do to jeeps and a ton of money you can sink in to them. Order a catalog from Jeep Parts, Jeep Accessories & Jeep Soft Tops From The Jeep Parts Experts - Quadratec for a start.
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pictures?
Nope, no pictures yet. But I can show you the EXACT car. I mean same color, same model, except the pic is a 91, not a 90.

http://dkautodeals.com/img/auto_pics...7_fullsize.jpg

Thats basically it, except I think it is a hard top and I know the rims are painted black. So, what tire size should I be looking for?
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Nope, no pictures yet. But I can show you the EXACT car. I mean same color, same model, except the pic is a 91, not a 90.

http://dkautodeals.com/img/auto_pics...7_fullsize.jpg

Thats basically it, except I think it is a hard top and I know the rims are painted black. So, what tire size should I be looking for?


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I would start off with LT235 BFG AT/KO's or 30x9.50's, thats the biggest I would go to start.
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Nope, no pictures yet. But I can show you the EXACT car. I mean same color, same model, except the pic is a 91, not a 90.

http://dkautodeals.com/img/auto_pics...7_fullsize.jpg

Thats basically it, except I think it is a hard top and I know the rims are painted black. So, what tire size should I be looking for?
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2. It's not a CAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I am just trying to keep you from getting bashed more about this. Trust me, there is Jeep ettiquite that we all try to follow. Good luck in your adventure.
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2. It's not a CAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

3. It's a Jeep

I am just trying to keep you from getting bashed more about this. Trust me, there is Jeep ettiquite that we all try to follow. Good luck in your adventure.
Bump, thanks everyone!
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exactly, dont call it a truck, that is an insult (a bad one)

also it has an inline 6, not V6

congrats... enjoy working on it

like they say, buy tools and jack stands and have fun
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Alright guys, I am going to try to follow the etiquette more, ok so heres the stuff I have planned for my Wrangler (aka The Strangler)

1 - Jeep Wrangler TJ / Grand Cherokee ZJ 2" LIFT KIT - Link Below
eBay Motors: Jeep Wrangler TJ / Grand Cherokee ZJ 2" LIFT KIT (item 140272377806 end time Oct-09-08 15:56:22 PDT)

2 - 7x6 SQUARE PROJECTOR HEADLIGHTS CONVERSION KIT H6054 H4 - These are so I can put an HID Kit in there, makes it look nice and SEXY!
eBay Motors: 7x6 SQUARE PROJECTOR HEADLIGHTS CONVERSION KIT H6054 H4 (item 140272286063 end time Oct-09-08 10:01:59 PDT)

3 - The HID Kit - H4 Bulbs at a temp of 8000 Kelvin. Sexy time yes.
eBay Motors: HID CONVERSION KIT Bi-Xenon 9003 H4 9004 9007 H13 Hi/Lo (item 130260350867 end time Oct-14-08 01:40:13 PDT)

Ok thats it. I've decided I am going to spray paint it black, a flat black. I am going to keep the JEEP print on the side in white, and I am going to get a bunch of Decals and Sticks, and of course a stencil. But I think I will make the stencil.

Ok anyone have any tires suggestions? I know I've asked a bunch of times, but I am still confused on exactly what I should ask for at Sams Club, or K-Mart or wherever it is I go. BTW, That 2" lift, will it allow me to increase my tire size?

THANKS AGAIN EVERYONE.

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Wait a minute, you have YJ not a TJ, YJ's have LEAF springs, TJ's and ZJ's have coil springs so you have alot more work ahead of you if you are doing a coil conversion. To confuse you even more Cherokees have leafs in the back and coils up front
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Wait a minute, you have YJ not a TJ, YJ's have LEAF springs, TJ's and ZJ's have coil springs so you have alot more work ahead of you if you are doing a coil conversion. To confuse you even more Cherokees have leafs in the back and coils up front
Oh crap, forget the conversion. What about these, will they work? eBay Motors: 2" Lift Heavy Duty Shackles Jeep Wrangler YJ 1987-1995 (item 200258919608 end time Oct-10-08 10:06:40 PDT)

Or what about this, is this the conversion you were talking about? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/4-Sky...=p4506.c0.m245

So, whats the easiest thing for me to do?
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This will only give you about 1" of actual lift.
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This is an auction for shocks only, not any kind of lift.
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Sell your free "Islander Truck" to someone who can use it and buy a civic.
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Do it right and do it once, cough up the dough for an Old Man Emu lift kit.
Superlift Superide 1.5" Lift Kit for 87-95 Jeep Wrangler YJ - Quadratec
This one rides better
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Throw on some 31x10.50's and go from there.
The OME is a cushy ride the other not so much.
Personally I would ignore the HID's and go for a good set of Hella or CIBIE E code headlights.

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