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Old 05-09-2011, 07:52 PM   #1
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Adding spacers too much??!

so ive got a 2000 tj sitting on a 3 inch suspension lift, with a 1 inch body lift and sitting on 33 inch goodyear wrangler kevlars. so a few months ago i got a set of 1 3/4 inch coil spacers (budget boost) for the front end to level it out with the rear. (i hate the look of the front sitting lower than the back). so i installed them a while back and suddenly i had some death wobble. went by my "trusted" offroad specialist, and he said the death wobble was from the spacers making the front end too high. he said it was my controls arms and they couldnt be adjusted any more with the spacers in. so i took em out. back to normal right?...WRONG. i still had death wobble. went back to him and he said my control arms still couldnt be adjusted?? idk? so i went and had it aligned somewhere else and still nothing. so i just stuck with the death wobble for a little while, then one day finnally had the tires balanced somewhere else, and BAMM! the death wobble was gone!!! so i figured the guy i thought i could trust, was lying to me so tht i would buy aftermarket control arms from him. so my question is, do you think im safe to put the spacers back in? have you ever heard of this issue? any other things that may come to mind with this setup, let me know guys! thnks yall!!

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Old 05-09-2011, 08:33 PM   #2
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so ive got a 2000 tj sitting on a 3 inch suspension lift, with a 1 inch body lift and sitting on 33 inch goodyear wrangler kevlars. so a few months ago i got a set of 1 3/4 inch coil spacers (budget boost) for the front end to level it out with the rear. (i hate the look of the front sitting lower than the back). so i installed them a while back and suddenly i had some death wobble. went by my "trusted" offroad specialist, and he said the death wobble was from the spacers making the front end too high. he said it was my controls arms and they couldnt be adjusted any more with the spacers in. so i took em out. back to normal right?...WRONG. i still had death wobble. went back to him and he said my control arms still couldnt be adjusted?? idk? so i went and had it aligned somewhere else and still nothing. so i just stuck with the death wobble for a little while, then one day finnally had the tires balanced somewhere else, and BAMM! the death wobble was gone!!! so i figured the guy i thought i could trust, was lying to me so tht i would buy aftermarket control arms from him. so my question is, do you think im safe to put the spacers back in? have you ever heard of this issue? any other things that may come to mind with this setup, let me know guys! thnks yall!!
I've never heard of needing 1 3/4" to level the front, perhaps your front springs have settled? I've only ever needed 3/4" to level out several Jeeps, heavy bumper, winch... I've heard that it's not recommended to add BB spacers to lifted springs, I've never done it but it does make sense that if you do, the control arms would not be long enough to correct the caster and pinion angle up front therefore alignment issues may arise. It sounds like the tire balance caused the DW, I would wonder if installing the spacers again would have another affect and the wobble may return? It's not a 10 minute job to install them, if you've had the lift on a while, I'd invest in new front springs, say maybe 4" springs with a medium spring rate to level you out or new springs 3" plus a 3/4" spacer. I'm no expert, but that's what I would do.

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well its the front is not sunken tht much but i thought since i was adding spacers i go a little more on the front. but i bought the jeep used and have no idea how old the springs are, they dont have any rust on em so i cant imagine tht theyd be tht old. but you suggestion is a good possibility.
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my jeep drives like garbage and people say its because of the spacers...however i cant confirm until i take them out. (bought it like that)
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well its the front is not sunken tht much but i thought since i was adding spacers i go a little more on the front. but i bought the jeep used and have no idea how old the springs are, they dont have any rust on em so i cant imagine tht theyd be tht old. but you suggestion is a good possibility.
I wouldn't gauge the springs on appearance alone, they may have been re-painted?? I really think new springs will solve your issue. Most reputable company's will sell just front springs. If you have a heavy front bumper, a winch, 6cyl... You'll want a heavy duty spring otherwise a med. might suit your needs.
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my jeep drives like garbage and people say its because of the spacers...however i cant confirm until i take them out. (bought it like that)
That doesn't have to be... There are ways to fix Jeeps that drive like garbage! Too many ways to list everything... what is it doing exactly? Sometimes one worn out component can cause such headaches, maybe the alignment is off or the tires need balanced, hopefully your tires are good and don't have internal problems such as a separated cord, a tie rod end, sway bar link, trac bar ends, shocks... The list goes on and on...unfortunately!
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my jeep drives like garbage and people say its because of the spacers...however i cant confirm until i take them out. (bought it like that)
Spacers haev nothing to do with the way it drives. My Rubi has them and it drives just fine. What is the jeep doing exactly. It can be worn out steering linking, not aligned properly, to too much air in the tires.

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