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Old 09-24-2010, 06:43 PM   #1
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Anyone ever try painting a hardtop?

My black hardtop is typically fading, light oxidizing....I tried ArmorAll, didn't do a thing...bought the $10 "back to black" kit, it got it blackerer but left streaks, and two days later I stripped it back off. Now I am back to the faded, oxidized look again....

...anyone ever try painting their hardtop?

If so, how'd it look, & did it last?

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Old 09-24-2010, 07:56 PM   #2
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Scotch Bright it

Prime it

Flat black spray it. 2 coats

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Old 09-24-2010, 08:55 PM   #3
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Been sorta thinking about painting mine flat desert tan...
I like the blue/tan on my DJ, and it cuts down on the heat quite a bit.

not sure you'll ever get black paint to hold up to the sun that well. tried black on my DJ once, got fried hard, and the black on the roof faded to a light primer gray color in a single summer in El Paso. If you want it to be black and hold up to UV, best bet would probably be to get it rhino lined.
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Been sorta thinking about painting mine flat desert tan...
I like the blue/tan on my DJ, and it cuts down on the heat quite a bit.

not sure you'll ever get black paint to hold up to the sun that well. tried black on my DJ once, got fried hard, and the black on the roof faded to a light primer gray color in a single summer in El Paso. If you want it to be black and hold up to UV, best bet would probably be to get it rhino lined.
NO! that would be even worse. spray on bed liners fade like no other. we have one on the bed of our F150, with the cover on, the bed sees the light of day maybe 15% of the year, and by the end of the first year it had faded to gray.
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As said above, scotchbrite, prime, scotchbrite again, and paint. The only other things missing are that you will need to clean it very, very well after armor all. Clean with dawn dishwashing soap, then use a good wax and grease remover. As far as paint, buy a good quality trim black/satin black. Upol or SEM are good ones that hold up well to uv's.
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NO! that would be even worse. spray on bed liners fade like no other. we have one on the bed of our F150, with the cover on, the bed sees the light of day maybe 15% of the year, and by the end of the first year it had faded to gray.
Have to disagree...I work at a body shop and we have done several hardtops, including my 1993 wrangler plow jeep, with Raptor Liner, sprayed lightly. No fading or texture change in the last 3 years...That includes sun and nice northern winter salt. Here is a pick, and the jeep is covered in dust, and it still is a nice, dark, texture. No fade whatsoever.

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It depends on prep and quality of the liner you use, and how heavy it is applied. Don't expect quality out of a roll on can brand, and think it is gonna last. Just my opinion at least
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I bought my jeep a year and a half ago with a painted hardtop and it's still in very good shape, the body shop painted it silver. The stock flares are starting to peel, but the hardtop is doing well after a year and a half.
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Have to disagree...I work at a body shop and we have done several hardtops, including my 1993 wrangler plow jeep, with Raptor Liner, sprayed lightly. No fading or texture change in the last 3 years...That includes sun and nice northern winter salt. Here is a pick, and the jeep is covered in dust, and it still is a nice, dark, texture. No fade whatsoever.

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It depends on prep and quality of the liner you use, and how heavy it is applied. Don't expect quality out of a roll on can brand, and think it is gonna last. Just my opinion at least
that is cool that there is a bit of an exception. the raptor liner seems to hold up better as far as fading goes. based on my experience with line-x and rhino i would not recommend either of those. both fade pretty bad. but if raptor works well for it, then that would be pretty cool.
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This hardtop was metallic green when I bought it. I used 400 grit wet/dry sandpaper and wet sanded the top. Then I rinsed it and dried it and then wiped it down with acetone. After that dried I sprayed it with 3 coats semi-flat black.

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that is cool that there is a bit of an exception. the raptor liner seems to hold up better as far as fading goes. based on my experience with line-x and rhino i would not recommend either of those. both fade pretty bad. but if raptor works well for it, then that would be pretty cool.
There is a newer liner that is clear too. You tint it to your existing paint, or whatever color you want, and you can clear over it if you would like. It kinda looks like chip guard on rockers from factory when you apply it and clear it. We've only done it to a couple of trucks here in town, kinda expensive, but it has held up on the vehicles we've done it to. Can't recall who makes it...haven't used it enough at the shop to be familiar with it, but it is out there. We used to use Speed Liner, but it needed a long cure time, was very messy, and faded REALLY BAD...that went out the door in no time...
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Have to disagree...I work at a body shop and we have done several hardtops, including my 1993 wrangler plow jeep, with Raptor Liner, sprayed lightly. No fading or texture change in the last 3 years...That includes sun and nice northern winter salt. Here is a pick, and the jeep is covered in dust, and it still is a nice, dark, texture. No fade whatsoever.

[IMG][/IMG]

It depends on prep and quality of the liner you use, and how heavy it is applied. Don't expect quality out of a roll on can brand, and think it is gonna last. Just my opinion at least

Wow, looks great! ..looks like the way to go to me....so where does one aquire "Raptor Liner"? --what is it, spray can? ..or something you gotta mix and use an air compressor?


...and while I'm at it, anybody else have a problem with hood paint? --mines chipping and peeling, figuring because of the heat build-up under the hood..? Anyway, local body shop wants $612.00 to strip and paint just the hood....that aint happening! ...winter project #412.
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Have to disagree...I work at a body shop and we have done several hardtops, including my 1993 wrangler plow jeep, with Raptor Liner, sprayed lightly. No fading or texture change in the last 3 years...That includes sun and nice northern winter salt. Here is a pick, and the jeep is covered in dust, and it still is a nice, dark, texture. No fade whatsoever.

[IMG][/IMG]

It depends on prep and quality of the liner you use, and how heavy it is applied. Don't expect quality out of a roll on can brand, and think it is gonna last. Just my opinion at least

....something i just noticed....WING WINDOWS!!?? ...hey, are those wing windows actually functional? what years have those doors & will they fit on my 2000 ??
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like 8 cans of flat black spray paint. it was pretty easy and lasted 2 yrs so far.
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....something i just noticed....WING WINDOWS!!?? ...hey, are those wing windows actually functional? what years have those doors & will they fit on my 2000 ??
Yup. YJs had wing windows. 1987-1995 and they won't fit on your TJ without some modification. If I remember correctly the bolt that the door latches to when you close it doesn't line up so it has to be moved. I can't remember if there was anything else stopping them from fitting.
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[QUOTE=passingthrough;787968]Wow, looks great! ..looks like the way to go to me....so where does one aquire "Raptor Liner"? --what is it, spray can? ..or something you gotta mix and use an air compressor?

Comes as a kit, and yes, you need to thin it and spray it with a gun. I work at a body shop, so I am spoiled. My co-workers all trade out our talents to each other to get things done. Our shop painter and I are good friends, so he shot it for free. Materials cost me about $215 (that includes sanding materials, cleaning supplies, primers, tack cloth, 440 cleaning solvent, which is a wax and grease remover, and waterborne cleaner).

I would guess it would cost joe public around $300-$500 to get it done. Kinda more than most desire to spend, but I don't get rid of things....have had this jeep alone for 6 years...
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....something i just noticed....WING WINDOWS!!?? ...hey, are those wing windows actually functional? what years have those doors & will they fit on my 2000 ??
LOL...everyone comments around my area about that...I bought this top and doors off a friend that had an '89 Sahara that got totaled. When he wrecked, he was topless and doorless....He wanted to get rid of 'em, so I gave him $500 for both doors and top. Couldn't pass up a deal like that, and yes, the wing windows work fine. They are a life saver in the winter when defrosting...and you get some air.
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....cool, I will be on the lookout for them.
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My black hardtop is typically fading, light oxidizing....I tried ArmorAll, didn't do a thing...bought the $10 "back to black" kit, it got it blackerer but left streaks, and two days later I stripped it back off. Now I am back to the faded, oxidized look again....

...anyone ever try painting their hardtop?

If so, how'd it look, & did it last?
Going on about 2 weeks now & still looks great. I used a Krylon Gloss Black spray paint. Took about 7-8 cans all together. Click the link below to see...

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f19/wha...tml#post778946
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like 8 cans of flat black spray paint. it was pretty easy and lasted 2 yrs so far.
I used 3 cans. Ha the bedliners so expensive just spend 15 bucks on spary paint
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I bought my jeep a year and a half ago with a painted hardtop and it's still in very good shape, the body shop painted it silver. The stock flares are starting to peel, but the hardtop is doing well after a year and a half.
Do you have a pic ?
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I did mine about a weekend or 2 ago. I used a medium grit sanding sponge from Autozone, washed off all the dust, and then used a Rustoleum Hammerd Black. Gives it some texture and still had a sheen to it. Still looking good.


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However, the rest of the Jeep is in need of paint. But Im waiting until after my build to do the rest in a marbled black and deep red.
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you will laugh but try BBQ grille paint... trust me this stuff holds up.

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