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Old 11-18-2010, 07:37 PM   #1
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automatic vs. manual

So I have been told by a couple people, and have read on the internet, that to go rock crawling and offroading automatic is pretty much a must have... I always thought that a manual is what you want when going offroading... is this true?

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Old 11-18-2010, 07:52 PM   #2
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For serious rock crawling, yes an auto is easier to operate. For around town, an auto is easier for some.
I have had both and enjoy both. I don't rock crawl, but on some steep, technical down-hills, I would prefer a stick shift. Most things are a trade off in one way or another

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Old 11-19-2010, 12:25 AM   #3
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I really thought this thread would explode... I'm very curious to know which is better...
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I can understand the argument that an automatic might be preferable to a stick in a rock-crawling scenario. I would hate to think what could happen if you accidently stalled at a crucial moment. On the other hand, personally, I don't like automatics. I was raised on a stick shift, and most of my vehicles have had them. It's just a personal preference, I guess.

Most of the vehicle manufacturers nowadays are shoving automatics down our throats. Many of the full size trucks don't even come with a stick anymore. I think Dodge has them in the 2500-3500 series RAM trucks, but not in the 1500 series. I know Ford doesn't put them in the F-150's anymore. And the Rangers are gone, starting in 2012, which is the last of the mid-size with sticks in the Ford line. I think the Dodge Dakota still might have one, not sure on that. Mazda eliminated their truck line altogether. Toyota and Nissan still run sticks, so that's good. And then, we have the Jeeps, thank God. I'm holding onto my 6-speed until Hell freezes over!
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Why most rock crawlers prefer autos is because you will want to run the gas and the break at the same time. I prefer a stick thats just me. I have wheeled with both.
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Old 11-19-2010, 02:25 AM   #6
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I have both and enjoy both but for beach and sand dunes the auto wins every time.
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Old 11-19-2010, 02:43 AM   #7
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Got both as well. I use 2 Jeeps for different kind of offroading. Auto on rocks. Manual in the river or trails.
I think that it is personal choice. Not sure anyone is better.
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Do a search for threads on Auto Vs. Manual. There must be a dozen or more. They all say the same thing......over and over and over and over. The manual guys will defend their manuals, and the auto guys will defend their autos. Nothing changes.

There's really no need to start ANOTHER debate on which is better. This topic has been beaten into the ground a million times by a million people. You may as well start a thread on the Jeep wave........
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I really thought this thread would explode... I'm very curious to know which is better...
Is that what you were trying to do? Make it explode? This has been discussed ad nausea. Neither is "better", simply a matter of preference. Prior to the JK with it's no stall feature in 4Lo, I might have agreed that an automatic was better for rock crawling. Now they are on an even footing.
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No I'm not trying to blow it up just thought it would get a lot more attention... Didn't realize there was more similar threads I'm just now getting use to this forum thank u for the advice
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For better or worse, manual transmissions are being phased out of newer vehicles because of poor sales. Most buyers prefer automatic transmissions, and this is the product that sells.

I've wheeled with both. Each has an advantage, and it is my opinion that automatics are easier to work with in just about any driving situation. Modern automatics are as rugged and reliable an any manual.

Which is better for wheeling? It depends on the owner. My TJL is equipped with an NSG-370 6-speed transmission. I bought a Wrangler for its simplicity. Automatic transmissions are very complex mechanical devices, which for me does not adhere to the basic premise of "simplicity" that attracted me to Jeep vehicles in the first place.
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Old 11-19-2010, 09:41 AM   #12
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my first rubi had a stick, my jk has auto.. i prefer the auto!!!
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I've had both. Auto is easier to wheel. Manual is more challenging and thus more fun. Much more. And isn't that the point?
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Manual is way fun to drive... The new models have 'Hill Assist' which also makes wheeling a bit easier in the manual because it's more forgiving (moves less) between breaking and clutch work. The also will not stall in 4 Lo 1st gear.

Plus it's nice to idle along in 4Lo 2nd gear and not have to keep hitting the brake like you would in the auto.

Auto makes it a bit easier. But the manual is a lot of fun.

Do you want to be shifting all the time? A jeep isnt like a little duce coup where you're going to be wanting to shift through gears as you accelerate. But that being said, I still think it's fun to down shift and barrel through things and all that jazz.
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Do a search for threads on Auto Vs. Manual. There must be a dozen or more. They all say the same thing......over and over and over and over. The manual guys will defend their manuals, and the auto guys will defend their autos. Nothing changes.

There's really no need to start ANOTHER debate on which is better. This topic has been beaten into the ground a million times by a million people. You may as well start a thread on the Jeep wave........
Perhaps to let the newbees ask questions would be more fun to us than read 65 million comments on how you like your jeep . Like the mods say in their publicity " There are more than 65 newbees here everyday" Some of us would like to ask newbee questions without having to read a Chadwick thread.
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personally i prefer a manual to get you out of really shitty situatios, you can give it some gas and pop it out, just my opinion, i wouldnt like an auto on the road in a jeep, they're slow, tippy, and cant turn, the only fun part for me is bein high up and the stick on the road.. and the fact that im drivin my jeep or course
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personally i prefer a manual to get you out of really shitty situatios, you can give it some gas and pop it out, just my opinion, i wouldnt like an auto on the road in a jeep, they're slow, tippy, and cant turn, the only fun part for me is bein high up and the stick on the road.. and the fact that im drivin my jeep or course
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I have had both and there are trade offs. I think my manual has much more pep on the street. It seems to me the auyo robs power> the auto is easier to contro off road except for coming down hills, where I thing the manual is better> if you are new to rock crawling, the auto is the way to go.
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personally i prefer a manual to get you out of really shitty situatios, you can give it some gas and pop it out, just my opinion, i wouldnt like an auto on the road in a jeep, they're slow, tippy, and cant turn, the only fun part for me is bein high up and the stick on the road.. and the fact that im drivin my jeep or course
hey where did u find that tag of yours about the person putting water in the engine? Did that really happen
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This thread reminds me of a classic discussion...

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I wish I had an automatic but I get by with my manual. Somday maybe but for the cost I just cannot justify switching it now.
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Old 11-19-2010, 02:20 PM   #22
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I run a '02 TJ with 4.0L and a 5sp. I wheel with 03 RUBI out at Hollister, and he does better on the rocks with the automatic. I do better on the grades with a manual. He's faster on the trails since he shifts easier with the auto. I believe I can hold a more consistant speed up or down a steep hill, and I don't have to use brakes going down near as much.

They have both have trade offs, but I'm fine with my 5sp. Next Jeep may be an auto tho.
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Perhaps to let the newbees ask questions would be more fun to us than read 65 million comments on how you like your jeep . Like the mods say in their publicity " There are more than 65 newbees here everyday" Some of us would like to ask newbee questions without having to read a Chadwick thread.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with asking questions. We've all asked questions. That's how we get answers. However, asking the same question over and over doesn't give you anything but the same answers over and over. Get it?
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I run the happy medium, I love driving a stick shift. Having a thumb throttle on the shifter makes rock crawling easier and not bad for cruise contol on flat interstates either.
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I run the happy medium, I love driving a stick shift. Having a thumb throttle on the shifter makes rock crawling easier and not bad for cruise contol on flat interstates either.
Where did you get the thumb throttle? That's awesome.


Btw OP don't trust what people on the interneet say hehehehehhh

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